What Would Happen if Morales Wins in Bolivia?

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would the US government really shut down all relations and lose all that sweet gas or will they do another Chavez on him, joining up the companys and plant stories that the people doesnt like him?

Chupa-Cabras, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
I was born in Bolivia to Peace Corps parents but left there as a baby and have only visited once, briefly. While I was there, the road from La Paz to Cochabamba was blocked by campesinos protesting the privatization of water.

Can you fill me in?

Did Morales win? Did the US shut down relations?

Maria D., Saturday, 11 October 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Miscellaneous/Briggs/Diagrams/Ch18-2.gif

Dada, Saturday, 11 October 2003 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
REVIVE! (now that he's actually won an election)

Evo Morales, Classic or Dud? Too soon to know, obv., but a fascinating guy.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 19 December 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/morales2.jpg

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 19 December 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Something I don't know: Will he be the first indigenous/Indian president in the Americas?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 19 December 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't know nothin bout this dude - but after Googling him my first impression is HUZZAH! I'm loving the recent resurgence of south American leftism.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 December 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

So...how do we feel he is doing so far?

laxalt, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

Also has anyone read the Benjamin Dangl book yet?

laxalt, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://upsidedownworld.org/main/content/view/1203/1/

laxalt, Sunday, 6 April 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h7k_uQWUdijxfsrqRadaeLMjq9XQD9F708C80

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

kinda lol but mostly sad, sure "problems being men" will mean homosexuality.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

probably just means problems getting or keeping it up, no? hence use of word "virility".

latin leaders be superstitious.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

nah, just read it in spanish, he uses the phrase "desviaciones en su ser como hombres" which is fairly unambiguous.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

just sad that i have to stop eating chicken tbh :(

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

heaveho morales

livestock crush (velko), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

nine years pass...

thread

In most of the major Latin American coups I can think of, 1) the elected President and supporters did make errors, or even broke the law and 2) the coup was preceded by protests.

What matters is how the leader is removed, and which power is installed afterward

— Vincent Bevins (@Vinncent) November 11, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:56 (six years ago)

"But Morales broke the law!"

"Not fuckin nearly enough tho"

https://external-preview.redd.it/2Va1MxN3LglUkrQ7RbmiHGouBC9vhAx2kDqwrImz5qw.png?auto=webp&s=0815e0c2d721afca67b943d9cccecf3747a7d5fd

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

do I personally like the idea of a 4-term president? Nope (though do a coup on Merkel next)

Oh come the fuck on. Can we stop being complete idiots here?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:35 (six years ago)

on Twitter?

grebbmoolb (crüt), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:37 (six years ago)

Lol. Obviously not. Ilx.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:39 (six years ago)

you could read the thread were he admits the comparison to merkel is "broad" and that morales "violated the spirit of the law (at least)"

ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

Thanks, I did read it. It's not 'broad' it's idiotic.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

what's idiotic about it?

ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:54 (six years ago)

fred could i drop u off a building

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

jim, are you kidding me?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:58 (six years ago)

For one, president and chancellor is not the same thing.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

https://media.giphy.com/media/Zd1BUb0qs6nwjeMUBu/source.gif

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

Frank-Walter Steinmeier needs to be put in his place - as soon as anyone finds out who he is.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:07 (six years ago)

Lol @ it was sooo on the cards that Feed would defend the coup

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:09 (six years ago)

Nobody is defending the coup you fucking moron

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:11 (six years ago)

But talk about 'on the cards' of you to claim that, lol

Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:12 (six years ago)

fred thinks we can read his mind i think

ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:16 (six years ago)

The American public should know the extent to which the entirety of the US media and political class is explicitly or implicitly throwing their weight behind someone who openly uses genocidal language against indigenous people

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 13, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:30 (six years ago)

ah, of course it's about the lithium, makes sense

https://www.globalresearch.ca/heres-why-the-us-wants-to-break-bolivia-to-bits-with-hybrid-war/5542595

Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:39 (six years ago)

Mark Weisbrot: "The OAS lied to the public about the Bolivian election and coup” https://t.co/fA3zZ6YJTm

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) November 19, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:33 (six years ago)

two months pass...

holy moley

Bolivia's Indigenous/Andean architecture. These 'Cholets' are product of the economic boom under Evo that redistributed wealth outside the white elite. Development with identity. pic.twitter.com/NnYh7dlLRC

— Ollie Vargas (@OVargas52) February 11, 2020

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:30 (six years ago)

two weeks pass...

As Bolivia gears up for a do-over election on May 3, the country remains in unrest following the Nov. 10 military-backed coup against incumbent President Evo Morales.

A quick recap: Morales claimed victory in October’s election, but the opposition protested about what it called electoral fraud. A Nov. 10 report from the Organization of American States (OAS) noted election irregularities, which “leads the technical audit team to question the integrity of the results of the election on October 20.” Police then joined the protests and Morales sought asylum in Mexico.

The military-installed government charged Morales with sedition and terrorism. A European Union monitoring report noted that some 40 former electoral officials have been arrested and face criminal charges of sedition and subversion, and 35 people have died in the post-electoral conflict. The highest-polling presidential candidate, a member of Morales’s Movimiento al Socialismo (MAS-IPSP) party, has received a summons from prosecutors for undisclosed crimes, a move some analysts suspect was aimed to keep him off the ballot.

The media has largely reported the allegations of fraud as fact. And many commentators have justified the coup as a response to electoral fraud by MAS-IPSP. However, as specialists in election integrity, we find that the statistical evidence does not support the claim of fraud in Bolivia’s October election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/26/bolivia-dismissed-its-october-elections-fraudulent-our-research-found-no-reason-suspect-fraud/

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:55 (six years ago)

four months pass...

Evo Morales’ party is likely to dominate Bolivia’s September election, while the unelected coup government is barely polling above 10%. https://t.co/ZylpHPgDtZ

— zach carter ☭ (@zachjcarter) July 7, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 July 2020 10:43 (five years ago)

Also: Amex announced she has covid

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 July 2020 10:43 (five years ago)

*Anez

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 July 2020 10:43 (five years ago)

Bolivia's coup Defense Minister, Fernando Lopez, wore a US Army face mask when speaking to media today. pic.twitter.com/byMYGntTSo

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) July 21, 2020

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:16 (five years ago)

BREAKING: Bolivia's elections have been suspended for the third time by the electoral authorities appointed by the coup President. The new date for elections will be October 18th. pic.twitter.com/a4n2rnn0GN

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) July 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:07 (five years ago)

https://www.apollo-magazine.com/bolivia-museum-directors-sacked/

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:32 (five years ago)

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24T2X9?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:17 (five years ago)

one month passes...

#Bolivia de facto President Jeanine Añez resigs her candidacy for the presidential elections on October 18 pic.twitter.com/F6UhhEitVQ

— teleSUR English (@telesurenglish) September 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 September 2020 09:32 (five years ago)

idk if this is good news for Arce if her voters transfer over to Mesa. The only thing that can stop him is a united opposition.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 18 September 2020 09:59 (five years ago)

I saw some footage of Anez, her speech to unite the right else Morales comes back.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 September 2020 10:02 (five years ago)

one month passes...

If Joe Biden was President, we wouldn't have to see the kind of shenanigans that went down today.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 19 October 2020 04:47 (five years ago)

Congratulations to Luis Arce and MAS for their resounding victory in the Bolivian elections!

A triumph for the left and for the restoration of democracy. A big defeat for the coup regime and all its backers. pic.twitter.com/xHXGJgVteK

— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) October 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 October 2020 10:50 (five years ago)

has anybody read any good (not foreign affairs magazine type) long articles about the anti-coup activities in bolivia over the last year. little reporting i've read has been pretty piecemeal and largely in publications that seem disappointed not to be congratulating the cia

plax (ico), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:12 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

good job nyt

Bolivia’s former president, Evo Morales, returned to the country on Monday, a year after his failed attempt to keep power tore the nation apart and sent him into exile.https://t.co/BRSygQrS4T

— The New York Times (@nytimes) November 9, 2020

JoeStork, Monday, 9 November 2020 20:44 (five years ago)

loooool

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Monday, 9 November 2020 20:53 (five years ago)

I hope you realise the impact your refusal to stop hitting yourself is having

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 9 November 2020 20:59 (five years ago)

haha omg

plax (ico), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 10:43 (five years ago)

I don't know why I bother on this message board but...Morales did fail to get voters to approve the change needed in the Bolivian constitution for him to serve a fourth term as president.

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 13:39 (five years ago)

I think it’s time for Bolivia’s left wing to let go of Morales.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:28 (five years ago)

y'all know he wasn't on the ballot, right

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:31 (five years ago)

Of course, but he still holds a lot of power through the unions and MAS.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:33 (five years ago)

or do you mean that Bolivia's left wing should abandon his party, who just won 55% of the vote in a three way race xp

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:33 (five years ago)

I think he should just retire and let other people continue the good work.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:35 (five years ago)

Other people at MAS, that is.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:36 (five years ago)

Why?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:16 (five years ago)

13 years at the helm is good enough. Term limits are important, he already amended the constitution by packing the courts with his people to get past one. He did good stuff for Bolivia and his legacy can live on with MAS, but I honestly think that him seeking too much power again will hinder MAS’s objectives today.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:24 (five years ago)

Let MAS decide what will or won't hinder them.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 13:35 (five years ago)

no coup them

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:20 (five years ago)

Let MAS decide what will or won't hinder them.

Arce has distanced himself from Morales.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:44 (five years ago)

All I'm seeing is the odd rally after a return from exile rn.

Después de ganar las elecciones del 18 de octubre y contar ya con un gobierno democrático, con los hermanos @LuchoXBolivia y @LaramaDavid tenemos la responsabilidad de garantizar la dignidad, la soberanía, la independencia y la estabilidad de #Bolivia. Esa es nuestra lucha. pic.twitter.com/j1vUpAFMVR

— Evo Morales Ayma (@evoespueblo) November 11, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:41 (five years ago)

He can be a spiritual figure and have rallies all he want, I just hope he lets Arce, the person who was elected by the people, do his job.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:08 (five years ago)

i guess its a free country tho

plax (ico), Friday, 13 November 2020 15:02 (five years ago)

three months pass...

!

BREAKING: Bolivia has cancelled and returned the full sum of the US $346.7 Million IMF loan taken out by the coup regime, in rejection of IMF impositions on internal economic policy.

As of February 2021, the loan had already racked up $24.3 Million in interest and commissions. pic.twitter.com/4sPkAJRtsg

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) February 17, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:04 (five years ago)

Ah! those lovely multi-million dollar "commissions" so deservingly earned by some mega-banks for assisting with the paperwork and handling the transfer of funds.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Thursday, 18 February 2021 19:05 (five years ago)

seems really big, don't know if there's any precedent for this but it would be great if this sets one

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 February 2021 19:10 (five years ago)

It's wonderful

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:15 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://t.co/YMZeNTRsVj pic.twitter.com/PxIgacfWHq

— Teenage Dengist (@lib_crusher) March 12, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 March 2021 15:46 (five years ago)

Ha! pic.twitter.com/3QN23n63kp

— Ollie Vargas (@OVargas52) March 13, 2021

chihuahuau, Saturday, 13 March 2021 19:24 (five years ago)

Ridiculous to call it a coup when there was legitimate elections and landslide victory for the opposition party and a peaceful transfer of power.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 14 March 2021 02:12 (five years ago)

Didn’t the government that took over last year without being democratically elected kill dozens of protesters? And people continued to protest? I don’t think the legitimate elections happened in a vacuum.

JoeStork, Sunday, 14 March 2021 03:18 (five years ago)

xp lol what???? Her party polled 4% and as for peaceful, you don’t remove criminal liability from police and the military if you think the transfer of power is going to be peaceful.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 14 March 2021 07:38 (five years ago)

Don't let's be beastly to the fascists

scamp til you're damp (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 March 2021 08:29 (five years ago)

First pictures emerge of former Bolivian dictator Jeanine Añez behind bars. 🇧🇴 pic.twitter.com/6ZTPTm3ypJ

— Alan MacLeod (@AlanRMacLeod) March 13, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 March 2021 09:42 (five years ago)

Didn’t the government that took over last year without being democratically elected kill dozens of protesters? And people continued to protest? I don’t think the legitimate elections happened in a vacuum.

― JoeStork, Saturday, March 13, 2021 10:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Was she in charge of the military while Morales resigned under military threat? Or of the National Union of Workers?

Did she make the election audit that lead to widespread false claims that Morales had committed electoral fraud?

If there is clarity that she indeed contributed to the errors to the OAS report or that she colluded with the National Union and military to oust Morales, then I'll gladly called it a coup.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:31 (five years ago)

I still think a Morales 4th term would be largely unconstitutional and that he ought to have respected the results of the 2016 referendum.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:36 (five years ago)

Do they have hanging for fascists like Anez in Bolivia? Be cool if they did.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:12 (five years ago)

Calling it opposition crackdown is hyperbolic, Añez barely represents the opposition.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:43 (five years ago)

If there is clarity that she indeed contributed to the errors to the OAS report or that she colluded with the National Union and military to oust Morales, then I'll gladly called it a coup.

yes, the dictator installed by the military who overthrew the democratically elected government wasn't personally responsible for the coup itself, therefore it wasn't actually a coup

ufo, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 06:23 (five years ago)

just a perfect, fabulous idiot.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:04 (five years ago)

five months pass...

Añez's daughter traveled to the United States this week to seek assistance from allies in Washington.

She thanked José Miguel Vivanco of Human Rights Watch for allowing her to "expose the dramatic situation" while posing in front of HRC (LGBTQ advocacy, different from HRW) pic.twitter.com/tFYUNIUvtu

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) September 9, 2021

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:16 (four years ago)

two months pass...

Really good thread, directed @ leftists.

a vietnamese communist posted a picture with a plot of land given to them by the government and was immediately inundated with responses from ""leftists"" living in imperialist nations asking things like "heh, when is your government gonna allow independent unions" look at us man

— pez (@periuspb) November 10, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 13:14 (four years ago)

seven months pass...

how it started how it's going pic.twitter.com/80jhMYHFaw

— ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) June 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:33 (three years ago)

#UPDATE Bolivian ex-president Jeanine Anez was sentenced to 10 years in prison Friday over an alleged plot to oust her rival and predecessor Evo Morales.

Anez will serve 10 years in a women's prison in La Paz pic.twitter.com/xJmwiKB4nf

— AFP News Agency (@AFP) June 11, 2022

Alleged plot

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:54 (three years ago)

'coup'

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:58 (three years ago)

two years pass...

sounds like another coup attempt happening now?

JoeStork, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 20:15 (one year ago)

yeah, just saw that

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 20:58 (one year ago)

Holy shit. Even the 2019 coup leader Jeanine Añez has condemned the unauthorized mobilization of Bolivia’s armed forces. Hard to see the coalition that would align in its favor… https://t.co/S9ftQdZtTi

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) June 26, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 21:17 (one year ago)

Seen off in no time.

Yea it's over, the President is already swearing in a New Chief of armed forces. This is certainly one of the coups of all time. https://t.co/kZAzdYLRJL pic.twitter.com/2M7qYaY4wn

— Fubar🇦🇬 (@Captain_Fubar) June 26, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 22:11 (one year ago)

Before entering the government building, Zúñiga told journalists in the plaza: “Surely soon there will be a new Cabinet of ministers; our country, our state cannot go on like this.” But, he said, “for now” he recognizes Arce as commander in chief.

Almost sounds like he's asking the journalists to do the coup for him

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 22:24 (one year ago)

eight months pass...

Once a star of the left, Evo Morales is now in hiding in an isolated Bolivian town, where thousands of supporters armed with sticks are helping him avoid arrest on statutory rape charges

Our story from Lauca Ñ, inside his bunker https://t.co/bxkJTACezO

— Marcelo Rochabrún (@mrochabrun) March 6, 2025

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2025 15:59 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

Neoliberal shock therapy has begun in Bolivia. Fuel subsidies have just been cut by the new pro-US govt, massive inflation begins:

Gas prices ⬆️ 83%
Diesel ⬆️ 163%
Bus fares ⬆️ 100%
Food ⬆️ 100+%

Unions have given the govt 24hrs to reverse the decision or mass protests begin. pic.twitter.com/6kcZPSAe64

— Ollie Vargas (@Ollie_Vargas_) December 19, 2025

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 December 2025 18:21 (five months ago)


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