The Shining

It's about Stanley Kubrick being a pretentious twerp, and Jack Nicholson & Shelley Duvall over-acting. Scatman Crothers, though, saves this flick from COMPLETE uselessness.

I still say it's a great film, at the very least visually speaking. The symmetrical corridors, the maze, the quick splicing of those ugly little girls. Brilliant trailer, which is simply the elevator/blood sequence with credits scrolling past. Nicholson's overacting is total classic. The last scenes as Duvall's running around the hotel are a bit too much. Anyway, I was watching it again and I think one of the best scenes in the film is the one in the bathroom with Delbert Grady, as "Midnight with the Stars and You" plays outside in the ballroom. I love how when they first bump into each other, Grady seems like a kindly butler-sort, but when Jack calls him on his past, he suddenly shifts to effectively sinister.

Plague movies, hmmm... Wot abt 'Plague of Zombies' (1966 Hammer flick) - years since I've seen it, can't remember much abt it, poss. plague zombiefication involved tho'. And don't recall an Indian burial ground flick before 'Poltergeist'.

No, I'm unfortunately very jaded. My mom forced me to watch The Exorcist when I was like 4, what can I say?

Neither can Krzysztof Penderecki (gotta stick up fer fellow Polacks with a name unpronounceable by Anglophones!)

Wha? I don't know about you, but Salem's Lot scared the shit out of me when I first saw it.

-- Ehh, I rewatched this a few nights ago. When Shelley's running through the Overlook at the end of the film there's this sudden snap-zoom and all of a sudden a fat man in a bear-suit giving a bloody blow-job fills the frame. It lasts for about four seconds, and it's creepy as shit. I was with watching this with Jon William in Rochester a few years ago and I was stoned as could be and thought I was hallucinating the scene. No dice, though.

One good scene (the funeral argument) does not a good book make! I found the whole thing boring and stupid.

http://www.mechaex.com/wmd/JAZZ.jpg

Compared to the book, now, the only thing I miss is any sort of balance to Jack - even the minor moments of being a loving/caring human being. Everything else Kubrick changed or eliminated seem right on, though.

Seriously one of the most chilling movies right up through meeting Grady in the ballroom/bathroom - that kills all the momentum and drama (poss. I just know what's going to happen). The disassociation caused by the overacting music and framing create tension even in innocuous scenes, but it doesn't work when Kubrick tries to be more traditional, you just start noticing that Shelley Duvall has huge fucking eyes.

The naked black women in Scatman Crothers' bachelor pad are almost as great as the masked biker men in The Royal Tenenbaums.

And yeah, the aniaml-outfit-fellatio thing is really really freaky. In the book, it turns out the guy he's sucking off is the owner of the hotel. The owner of the hotel is called Horace Derwent. He's got the same (not particularly common) surname as me. So I shat myself when I read that.

yeah, i think it actually works better in the movie because its so inexplicable.

Well, I just disagree. I liked it because it was just a really creepy update of the monkey's paw. the parts with dead children and the nightime journey to the indian burial ground were really effective to me.

A book shouldn't cost more than a couch, really

A coffee table book shouldn't cost a month's rent, people will buy it though.

It's plausible that they release a regular-edition that's only the cost of two bottles of Dom, as they did with the Tati set

Da fuq
Will torrent the shit out of that

I guess I can get behind Taschen fleecing moneyed dorks and douchebags to fund their high quality/low cost line, but yeah, hope some reasonable soul PDF’s it.

Also I love The Shining, but the kinda white glove treatment it’s gotten in recent years is still somewhat lol to me.

same tbh. it's a good film! why it's everybody's accessible HIGH CINEMA puzzlebox seems more a function of nostalgia than anything else.

this comes with a "box of ephemera" at least, which is difficult to torrent.

The bar for high cinema ain't too high of late (not a dig at The Shining; very much a dig at low cinema c. 2023)

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/stanley-kubrick-shining-taschen-book-lee-unkrich-1235556874/

Only $1500

Saw some other article that confirmed there will be a cheap version produced sometime in the future. Because what my bookshelf needs is a fifth book devoted to the film.

(And no versions of the novel.)

any chapters about the phooey moon landing conspiracy I wonder - the truth is out there

Pretty cool and fairly persuasive thread here

[Thread] I’ve noticed something odd happening in Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. True, there’s plenty of odd things going on in The Shining, but this is really weird.

🧵 1/50 pic.twitter.com/TWcgiDruaP

— Filippo Ulivieri (@nessuno2001) May 31, 2023

1/50

I can't

lol I know but you kind of have to see all the instances of the thing he's talking about to think it's more than a couple of odd moments.

I think I had kind of noticed that before, I’m not sure if it’s Kubrick’s request or Nicholson’s schtick, but for me it acts like a subliminal “amirite?” or “well what do you think we’re gonna do now?”

I can see it I guess but who cares, this is not a big deal

The only one I remember noticing as being out of the ordinary (i.e. he's not looking at Lloyd in the Gold Room) is the one when he's storming out of the room after telling Wendy he's not letting her fuck up his life anymore

god what an insufferable dork

Interesting; I think it works as a particularly filmic subliminal indicator that the character is weird, estranged from his surroundings, and does things both the other characters in the film and "normal" characters from other films don't do.

I appreciate the discussions above re: the casting of Nicholson and the difficulty of accepting him as "normal" at the outset. Even in the scene in the car on the way up, he radiates menace. Michael Keaton would have been good for that part, but probably equally unbelievable as descending into madness. It's hard to think of anyone who would have filled this role perfectly.

I still think this was one of Nicholson's best performances, if not the best.

That thread could've been 20 posts. Please post less content.

otm. that's the insufferable part. it's fine to notice details or to want to talk about movies on the internet

That thread could've been 20 posts. Please post less content.

It's hard to think of anyone who would have filled this role perfectly.

the answer to this in most contexts is michael shannon

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Interesting; I think it works as a particularly filmic subliminal indicator that the character is weird, estranged from his surroundings, and does things both the other characters in the film and "normal" characters from other films don't do.

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:42

Could this be Rob Ager? His ‘subliminal’ analyses of both The Shining and Full Metal Jacket dig up a lot of hidden meaning in Kubrick’s work, well beyond the typical Room 237 speculation.

He’s “Collative Learning” on YouTube. Sadly he’s taken the majority of his most thorough analysis videos to his private website but there’s quite a bit of incidental work left in public. He deals a lot with the other disconcerting aspects of this film such as the impossible set design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sUIxXCCFWw

50 is… more than 20

Lol omg

a true poster (me) wd have noted (🧵 1/1) that you dont need to watch any of the THE SHINING (1980) when you can just view this gif

In films it works in the same way. It breaks the viewer’s so-called suspension of disbelief: we look at the fiction as if we are observing real events, until the actor breaks such illusion by looking directly at us.

🧵 20/50 pic.twitter.com/g7zl6AoiVY

— Filippo Ulivieri (@nessuno2001) May 31, 2023

what if i said things that are obvious to everyone, but in a smug and breathless tone

^ new board descrip pls mods

"you dont need to watch any of the THE SHINING (1980) when you can just view this gif"

That's tweet 20, genius

🧵 1/1, bonehead

20/50 morans

what if i said things that are obvious to everyone, but in a smug and breathless tone

I appreciate the discussions above re: the casting of Nicholson and the difficulty of accepting him as "normal" at the outset. Even in the scene in the car on the way up, he radiates menace.

I grew up watching this alongside a dad who thought Jack Torrance was a super cool character and who took maybe a few too many parenting cues from Nicholson's performance (that car trip was basically every car trip from my childhood) so it took me a long, long time to even recognize that Jack is itching to cast off his thin veneer of stability and sanity right from the start.

Ku brick-n-hour mess age

always thought this was a theremin

Wendy Carlos - The Shining Demo Score

Carlos demonstrates the Circon controller, which she created in 1978 to produce a demo score for the 1980 film
⚡️sound on⚡️ pic.twitter.com/Ux6YCe7Wqa

— psychotronica (@psychotronica_) November 22, 2023

The second time jack visits the gold room, Lloyd tells him his drink’s on the house. “I’m the type of guy likes to know who’s buying his drinks.” Lloyd says it’s not a matter that concerns him — “at least not at this time.” ???

Other things and scenes that struck me this time around:
-The magical negro trope
-Halloran on the airplane asking what time they arrive in Denver and in the airport calling his friend to get the snowcat ready
-Exactly which column Jack is hiding behind when Halloran walks through the lobby and the yell that precedes his attack
-when Grady unlocks the storage closet for Jack and says that he “and others” are concerned that Jack won’t follow through

“midnight…with the stars and youuu”

I watched it with my 14 yo and the two scenes that made him jump were 1 - the transformation in room 237 (of course) and 2 - toward the end when the party guest greets Wendy in the hallway

https://www.taschen.com/en/books/film/08085/stanley-kubrick-s-the-shining?utm_campaign=item_availability&utm_source=tas&utm_medium=nl
pre order up

https://i.imgur.com/FzDgSJK.jpeg Someone found the original ballroom photo in a Getty archive

https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3863263/original-stock-photo-used-for-the-shining-ending-discovered/

Woman at bottom right needs her own movie

https://i.postimg.cc/4xVSCgv3/IMG-3036.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7x_FlahKQ