Does anyone here want to talk about Australian politics?

I would start a thread if I thought anyone else cared enough to use it.

so i know v. little of australian politics but was that a surprise? i thought rudd was doing fine?

You could have used a joke title like "The Member for North Sydney has gone out to lunch" or something.

the other thread seemed to be a useful enough place

Wasn't there something in the news about the first female woman being elected prime minister?

oh Phil has got internets at home again? and they say Gillard hasn't done anything to improve the country yet.

Wasn't there something in the news about the first female woman being elected prime minister?

no

BUT THE AUSTYRALIAN PEOPLES DIDN'T ELECT HER TEH UNION BULLYBOYS DID OMG

NO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT A WEST MINSTER SYSTEM IS

the other thread seemed to be a useful enough place

― how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 10:41 (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Other thread?

In all the hullaballalullabaloo about the union scum staging a union scum campaign to install a union scum PM, the nutbars seem to have forgotten that the ALP's bad polling universally pointed to Rudd being the only problem they had. Abbott's rating barely changed and the ALP's reduced, but Rudd's personal rating was rubbish in every measure.

The dying days of the Fourth Reich: it's the 2007 AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL ELECTION

nutbars be dissemblin'

The only reason why it was down is because a large percentage of Queensland and Western Australia are populated by selfish morons too moronic that they're minor bit characters in the play that ends with shareholders walking away with a wheelbarrow full of money while these morons don't realise that they only reason they get paid $100,000 a year to drive a truck in the middle of nowhere is that it is in the middle of nowhere.

Also, racists.

The dying days of the Fourth Reich: it's the 2007 AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL ELECTION

― how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Sunday, 27 June 2010 11:37 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

o fuc sorry, I didn't know that thread was still going. CLOSE THIS THREAD plz

uh but it's a thread from 2007 guys

maybe a pre-emptive 2010 election thread instead?

Why not. Maybe someone wants to rename this thread and make it relevant to 2010 and/or witty.

REDZ UNDER THE BEDZ: Australia besieged by communists in 2010

Better Dead Than Redhead iirc

btw I don't think Tony Abbott "gets" irony after listening to him brag about how the Libs have got rid of one Labor leader

Dude the ALP is totally unstable. Abbott is setting an example by overseeing a party which has been kept stable under one leader for at least 12 minutes.

RED HEAD REDEMPTION 2010

i understand there was a solid zing by labor

Labor Bloc Zing Crew

In the Lower House she shook hands with Tony Biggott and said 'game on'. The 'moll' was implicit.

Former editor of the National Indigenous Times explains in full why Rudd failed Indigenous people, and touches on one facet of Howard's racism. Vital reading.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2937488.htm

Gillzo refuses to be religious

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/29/2939879.htm

Prime Minister Julia Gillard says she has no intention of pretending to believe in God to attract religiously-inclined voters.

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd was a regular at Canberra church services and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is known as a devout Catholic.

In contrast, Ms Gillard says that while she greatly respects other people's religious views, she does not believe in God.

THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout

greens mp in melbourne ftw

love the huge posters of b4ndt on swanston st

Ace.

Drove past Tanner's office on Saturday. Looked as glum as ever.

Did anyone read this shit?

http://www.watoday.com.au/opinion/politics/shacking-up-is-hard-to-do-why-gillard-may-be-leery-of-the-lodge-20100628-zexr.html

OK it is less to do with politics and more with value judgements but fuck me, was Bettina Arndt always this much of an A-grade cuntbubble?

The gist: Gillard is a bad rolemodel for women BECAUSE SHE ISNT MARRIED TO HER MAN.

What in the everloving FUCK.

wow what a moron

Only just read it. She also claims Pat Rafter was bad choice for Australian of the Year because he was not married and therefore an uncommitted father. Moments like this I have second thoughts about freedom of speech.

morelike bettina arsendt, amirite

bettina arsebandt

bettina ardnthole

bettenalady cumstain

buttina hurdt

^^

http://inside.org.au/shoulder-deep-in-the-entrails/

i liked this

parents dragging children through a succession of chaotic ''blended'' families
parents dragging children through a succession of chaotic ''blended'' families
parents dragging children through a succession of chaotic ''blended'' families
parents dragging children through a succession of chaotic ''blended'' families
parents dragging children through a succession of chaotic ''blended'' families

i think bettina arnottsscotchfingeruptheanus has confused real life with saturday kitchen

bettina beats us all at our own game

http://bettinaarndt.com.au/aboutbettina.php

Bit of a Bettina Arndt

Her brand new book - What Men Want – is being published in August, 2010.

oh this will be fascinating

http://inside.org.au/shoulder-deep-in-the-entrails/

i liked this

― assiest boy in america (haitch), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:57 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Michelle Grattan and Paul Kelly join the crowd, waxy and wrinkled as exhibits in some glass case at Madame Tussauds.

^^ perfect sentence

Her brand new book - What Men Want – is being published in August, 2010.

oh this will be fascinating

― jo jo zeppelin (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 14:04 (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ways to promote a forthcoming book:

1. Write a controversial column two months earlier

buttina hurdt

A+ lol

Guessing that Bettina's "Sex Diaries" features the not-having kind of sex.

Also...WTF??!!! Cannot believe she's sagely using Whitlam/Greer to bring her stupid argument "home". Yes, Bettina and while we're at let's examine this new trend of women wearing mens trousers and driving their own cars.

Gaaaaaaaahhh!

Love that Shane Maloney piece btw...

My mum went to school with ButtArndt.

Actually, come to think of it that explains a lot.

no, angus taylor of a million corruption scandals fame is reportedly the likely shadow treasurer

Fantastic. Great move.

It was nice to have eight days of looking like we had the best-case-scenario result, but ABC has called 76 for Labor. Probably close enough to recount preferences in Macnamara, but if they're confident enough to update now, looks like it. (Lab also ahead 50.1% to 49.9% in Gilmore at current count.)

((btw ufo u may have missed my extremely elaborate joke about arithmetic))

you meant shadow treassurer?

Can't talk about a republic now (the Queen hasn't died yet and she's been Queen... well, for quite some time)
Can't talk about a republic now (the Queen has just died, how distasteful)
Can't talk about a republic now (he's only been the King for a few months, give him a chance)
Can't talk about a repub--

Pull the fucking ripcord before kerchunking any Chazcoins ffs

But not before the public holiday!!

Nothing was going to happen before the next election anyway. I'm not exactly optimistic, but Charles is a pretty odious character and if Labor can get a healthy majority next election who knows...

Yes I saw some of the proclamation stuff and thought ugh, this guy? seriously? I would imagine with Liz out of the picture the monarch isn’t a popular notion any more.

labor had previously announced that their plan is to hold a republic referendum during their second term (if they get one) because their focus re: constitutional reform at the moment is the indigenous voice, so it's not anything new that they're not going to have a republic referendum immediately. i do expect that once the voice referendum is out of the way we'll hear more about how they're going to go about holding the republic referendum, deciding on a republic model, etc.

I really hope they don't have anything to say about which republican model and just opt for an up/down vote on whether you want an Australian for head of state or not. Once that's done, the options for which model can be the subject of a further referendum. Putting a specific model forward from the outset just risks the disaster of 1999

when shorten was labor leader he announced plans to do something like that, idk if exactly that is still their policy but i think they're well aware of the failings of the 1999 process at least

my preference would be to remove the governor-general/monarch or any equivalent completely, formally codifying all the unwritten convention of the current constitution, making the pm the head of state, & specifying reasonable procedures to deal with the existing grey areas that the g-g has responsibility over

hopeful that we the nation opt for mediocrity and disappointment rather than actual evil* wearing an ill-fitting skin suit

but we have gotten this choice wrong before!!

*not to discount incompetence

hearing word that it's going to be a trumpet of patriots sweep

As long as Michael Jessop beats his "trumped up" charges

Police allege they found weapons and camouflage clothing inside his car. It is also alleged that during a further search of the vehicle officers located a shovel, axe, gloves, duct tape, ropes and a cadaver bag.

Tough choice in the Dickson electorate between Dutton and Jessop.

far out, had managed to miss that story (in my defence this has been the most boring election campaign i can remember and that includes that one with Turnbull in that felt like it lasted six months)

it's been pretty interesting in just how disastrous it's seemed to be for the lnp, probably the worst federal campaign i've ever seen

Two things you've got to give the trumpets credit for

1. Funny name
2. The bat-shit insane controversy surrounding all their candidates, bringing the entertainment factor to this election

In the Division of Reid, New South Wales, the party nominated David Sarikaya, who had claimed to hold a doctorate in psychology. However, an investigation by the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission revealed that his doctorate came from an American, online, non-accredited institution called "The American College of Metaphysical Theology (ACMT)". His doctorate was in theology, unrelated to counselling or psychology practice, and the degree certificate was purchased online in 2009 for around $249. The HCCC launched an investigation in 2016 and found that he had been continuously misleading the public for years, posing as a mental health professional without any formal qualifications in psychology or counselling. In 2018, the New South Wales Civil and Administrative Tribunal even issued an order permanently prohibiting him from providing any paid or voluntary healthcare services. He was also convicted of fraud in Victoria in 1997 and later declared

Trumpet of Patriots candidate Mark Aldridge quits over party's spam SMS messages

Queensland candidate, Gabrial Pennicott, who is running in the division of Wide Bay, was declared bankrupt and imprisoned in 2011 after being involved in 23 counts of fraud.

Trumpet of Patriots candidate Jason Smart has withdrawn his support for the party and urged voters to put him last, after a Teal independent was placed second on its how- to-vote card.

Not to mention

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/serial-pest-in-sperm-donor-groups-joins-clive-palmer-s-colourful-cast-20250501-p5lvrl.html

Joseph O’Connor claims in the biography posted on the party’s website that he brings “a wealth of experience in mental health and counselling” to his candidacy.

But this masthead can reveal that he has also presented himself as Dane McDuff, Blake McBeth, Adam Nilsson and Jack DeBevay in Facebook groups for women and couples looking for sperm donations, among a stream of identities that mushroom each time he is banned from a group.

Sperm donor groups generally do not allow members to use aliases.

Multiple women have complained to the group administrators that he has engaged in creepy behaviour, sent them unwanted imagery and is using the groups for sexual gratification.

The unwanted material included videos of himself on a porn site called “Chaturbate” where he uses the moniker JackPhallus.

In one of his early profiles, set up under the moniker Dane McDuff in 2019, he boasted of a “super high” sperm count.

“I kept knocking up all my previous girlfriends so figured I might as well come here and put it to good use,” he wrote. “Australia only pls unless you’re willing to travel, shipping sperm seems like it would reduce quality.”

He set up his own sperm donation group in 2022 under the alias Adam Nilsson, after administrators of other sperm donation groups collaborated to identify all his aliases and remove him from their groups. He posted his vital details, including a photograph, offering to donate sperm as recently as September last year.

One of the rules of his group is that if a man agrees to donate via artificial insemination, they cannot renege at the last moment and insist on natural insemination.

“Grow some balls I know a lot of you have tiny dicks and this is the only way your micropenis having self can get laid but I don’t care, go to a brothel,” the rule states.

“Anyone who whines, whinges, complains etc about anybody will be BANNED … This isn’t your soap box for you to have a cry and get sympathy because boo hoo it’s too hard.”

It is not clear which of the three administrators of the group wrote the rules.

also the particularly bizarre party history - it was originally founded by the staffer for a rural independent in the vic parliament in 2004, and first federally registered in 2011 as the country alliance (getting 0.05% of the vote in the 2013 election) and then ran as the australian country party in 2016 (with 0.07% of the vote). at some point it was taken over by far-right conspiracy theorists and ran as the australian federation party in 2022 (0.39% of the vote despite running in most seats outside nsw). it only changed its name to trumpet of patriots last year, before it was effectively sold to clive palmer this year - he'd deregistered the united australia party to avoid donation disclosure laws and failed to re-register it due to laws specifically meant to ban such shenanigans.

I'm in the apparently-perilous seat of Wills. There's every chance Sam Rattnam will win, which would be grouse - I actually thought we already had a Green in the seat but apaz its only at the state level.

I voted at the primary school in Abbotsford this morning which holds the distinction as the most Yes booth in the country (>84%) and the nos were probably more radical nos than reactionary ones.

Bandt got my lower house vote however what I really want to do is make him a sandwich. He’s looking positively skeletal right now, to the point that I hope he’s not ill.

Senate, pingersfor parliament all the way and a good line of socialists , progressives and vaguely progressives so you can get to 6 or even 7 above the line without having to add in someone awful.

The demonically pissed potato cop completely stuffed it which means a labour lower house majority, we might have got something done with the greens and teals as the balance of power.

I sit next to climate 200 in my coworking space andwhilst I couldn’t vote for a teali appreciate your never going to get anything better in kooyong so I appreciate what they do, at least until they show their true colours and support a knuckle dragger government. (Also the Holmes a court white savior gene can go fuck itself)

The redistribution of virtually the entire eastern suburbs moved me from a 'Yes' electorate to a 'No' electorate. I'm faintly annoyed about that despite no real world consequences. Will presumably now plead "b-b-but the local primary school booth, while not in Abbotsford's league, was firmly 'Yes' " etc, etc lol

I'm in a teal seat (Wentworth). She's basically a moderate Liberal - but she's up against a horrible robotic Michaelia Cash soundalike, so I guess I'll take what I can get

good luck oz, we (we as in me) are all counting on you.
Hoping Wannon can get it done!

I sit next to climate 200 in my coworking space andwhilst I couldn’t vote for a teali appreciate your never going to get anything better in kooyong so I appreciate what they do, at least until they show their true colours and support a knuckle dragger government.

i think there's very little chance most of them would back a lib government these days, the libs have gone too far to the right for there to be much common ground with them. spender is the main one who would consider it but even then i think she'd find it easier to work with labor.

Whilst I would trust Dr Monique as far as I could throw her and really didn’t like how her campaign suckered in a lot of really progressive an potentially left wing people last time, still rather have her than frydo, or whatever nazi Barbie the Victorian libs have put up. (I had the misfortune to meet Matthew Guy and David Southwick in the last state campaign and fuck me the best and the brightest don’t go anywhere near the Victorian liberal party, and they were the last hope against the transphobes, christofascists and flat earthers).

Interested to see what mal, frydo and kean do on Sunday morning, watching the libs tear themselves apart again will provide some amusement.

There was a thing on the radio this morning about our electoral system leading to inevitable dull mediocrity, which I guess is better than the alternative.

Heh I threw a BTL vote at purplepingers as well. He seems to be a good advocate for housing security/affordability/tenant rights.

Any views on the prospects of the Greens holding onto their lower house Qld seats?

(Actually, I think ufo might have been amongst the first I noticed talking seriously about those potential Green gains in 2022!)

I think Dutton ran such a bad campaign that he’s handed all those seats to Labour.

Please please please, let that also mean Dickson dumps him.

Wow, those Dickson numbers really are looking delicious.

I gather he’s out on his ear now.

Yep, GONE.

Congratulations to the new PM, matttkkkk (I think that’s right)

lol even with the biggest federal victory and first re-election as PM for anyone in over two decades, a bigger swing to Greens than Albo at home

get in the bin Dutton you absolute potato

woke up to this and super stoked. good on ya, oz. Dutton losing his seat is the cherry on top of the sundae

any form of rebuke for American branded fascism spreading abroad is a means for celebration.

Very civilized country to be all sorted out before bed time.

Disappointed in the greens result but the libs ran such an awful and incompetent campaign it trashed the greens chances even though the green vote went up. It’s been amusing to watch the libs for the last couple of weeks, basically trying to engineer the worst possible result for Dutton without actually loosing their own seats.

Anyway, time to see if albo grows a pair or if the lesson learnt is that mediocrity is what Australia wants.

The latter, surely? Best not rock boat too much with an election in some 1100 days.

rock THE boat, rather

The best part about last night was the fact Dutton had told everyone not to posion themselves with watching the ABC coverage. On Insiders just now I saw that Ch9 or 7 or whatever it was put a pic of Duttplug in a dunk tank and sunk him! The indignity is delicious.

pretty crazy result - an unexpected labor landslide that the polls only barely hinted at. a significant polling failure, though not as severe as 2019.

result seems potentially existential for the libs, in that they've nearly been completely wiped out in urban seats and the 'moderates' have been reduced down to three. it's hard to see how they have any chance of winning back a lot of the seats they've lost without moving away from the right, but the remaining party is dominated by the hard right who lost them this election & the nats will have more influence than ever as they're now proportionally the largest they've ever been in the coalition.

Any views on the prospects of the Greens holding onto their lower house Qld seats?

(Actually, I think ufo might have been amongst the first I noticed talking seriously about those potential Green gains in 2022!)

ryan is still looking very good for the greens, but the other two are lost. it's not a good result in those seats, though a big part of it is just being swept away by a labor landslide, but i do think there's lessons to be learned about how to pick battles better

unfortunately melbourne is also at risk - we don't have a good idea there yet because the aec hasn't started the right preference count (they were expecting it to be a liberal vs. greens contest not labor vs. greens). wills is pretty much knife's edge but there is still a real possibility of greens winning it.

time to see if albo grows a pair or if

🤣 😂 😆

ufo otm
Conservative politics seems alien to millennials and gen Z, I think they will need to find a new position to occupy. Campaigning on nuclear energy, walking back climate action and eliminating remote working in 2025 is breathtakingly out of touch.

Yeah the nuclear thing baffled me. That was a discussion to be having in the 80s, not now, given how long plants apparently take to fire up? And it'll always have bad optics thanks to Chernobyl and Fukushima.

It’s just what some aging pricks from Queensland come up with when they want to throw a bone to those concerned with climate but protect their coal and gas interests. It was just so blatant it didn’t land unlike all the anti renewables and anti transmission Astro turfing that’s going on. Sadly that seems to be working.

We’re one clapped out mud burning turbine failure in the Latrobe valley away from being utterly fucked next summer. We are most summers but it could be really bad this year.

Excited to watch the libs begin their journey of renewal by totally ignoring the messages being sent to them by the Australian public

It’s just what some aging pricks from Queensland come up with when they want to throw a bone to those concerned with climate but protect their coal and gas interests

yeah it was more about resolving the internal conflicts within the party than any sort of serious policy - it kept both sides of the party happy, the denialists who do the resources lobby's bidding and the section who believe in climate change and want actual action taken. they spent the last decade tearing themselves apart over that so this was a convenient way to paper over that but it wasn't a remotely serious offering