My Life Since Batman: Michael Keaton vs. Val Kilmer

Does this include their Batman?

i was just lamenting Michael Keaton's lost career the other day. Keaton Keaton Keaton.

Keaton:

In Production
2010s
2000s
1990s
1980s
1970s
Noah's Ark: The New Beginning (2010) (post-production) (voice) .... Noah

The Other Guys (2010)
Toy Story 3 (2010) (voice) .... Ken
... aka "3" - USA (poster title)
... aka "Toy Story 3: An IMAX 3D Experience" - USA (IMAX version)

Cars Race-O-Rama (2009) (VG) (voice) .... Chick Hicks
Post Grad (2009) .... Walter Malby
The Merry Gentleman (2008) .... Frank Logan
"The Company" .... James Angleton (6 episodes, 2007)
- Episode #1.3 (2007) TV episode .... James Angleton
- Episode #1.2 (2007) TV episode .... James Angleton
- Episode #1.1 (2007) TV episode .... James Angleton
- Episode #1.4 (2007) TV episode .... James Angleton
- Episode #1.5 (2007) TV episode .... James Angleton
(1 more)
The Last Time (2006) .... Ted Riker
Cars (2006) (VG) (voice) .... Chick Hicks
Cars (2006) (voice) .... Chick Hicks
Herbie Fully Loaded (2005) .... Ray Peyton Sr.
White Noise (2005/I) .... Jonathan Rivers
Game 6 (2005) .... Nicky Rogan
First Daughter (2004) .... President Mackenzie
"Gary the Rat" .... Jerry Andrews (1 episode, 2003)
- Catch Me If You Can (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Jerry Andrews
"King of the Hill" .... Trip Larsen (1 episode, 2003)
- Pigmalion (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Trip Larsen
Quicksand (2003) .... Martin Raikes
Live from Baghdad (2002) (TV) .... Robert Wiener
"Frasier" .... Blaine Sternin (1 episode, 2002)
- Wheels of Fortune (2002) TV episode .... Blaine Sternin
"The Simpsons" .... Jack Crowley (1 episode, 2001)
- Pokey Mom (2001) TV episode (voice) .... Jack Crowley
A Shot at Glory (2000) .... Peter Cameron

Jack Frost (1998) .... Jack Frost
Out of Sight (1998) (uncredited) .... Ray Nicolette
Desperate Measures (1998) .... Peter McCabe
Jackie Brown (1997) .... Ray Nicolette
Inventing the Abbotts (1997) (uncredited) .... Narrator
Multiplicity (1996) .... Doug Kinney
... aka "Clones" - Japan (English title)
Speechless (1994) .... Kevin Vallick
The Paper (1994) .... Henry Hackett
My Life (1993/I) .... Bob Jones
Much Ado About Nothing (1993) .... Dogberry
"Saturday Night Live" .... Host (1 episode, 1992)
... aka "NBC's Saturday Night" - USA (complete title)
... aka "SNL" - USA (informal title)
... aka "SNL 25" - USA (alternative title)
... aka "Saturday Night" - USA (first season title)
... aka "Saturday Night Live '80" - USA (sixth season title)
... aka "Saturday Night Live 15" - USA (fifteenth season title)
... aka "Saturday Night Live 20" - USA (twentieth season title)
... aka "Saturday Night Live 25" - USA (twentiefifth season title)
- Michael Keaton/Morrissey (1992) TV episode .... Host
Porco Rosso (1992) (voice: English version) .... Porco Rosso
... aka "Kurenai no buta" - Japan (original title)
... aka "The Crimson Pig" - International (English title) (literal title)
Batman Returns (1992) .... Batman / Bruce Wayne
One Good Cop (1991) .... Artie Lewis
Pacific Heights (1990) .... Carter Hayes

Kilmer
The Codfather (2010) (in production) (rumored) .... Travers
Art's Demise (2011) (announced) .... Jacob
Mark Twain and Mary Baker Eddy (2010) (announced) .... Mark Twain
Office Paranormal (2012) (pre-production) (rumored) .... Harvey Rock
The Hard Ride (2011) (pre-production) (rumored) .... Johnny Varnes
Silver Cord (2010) (pre-production) .... Rafael Griggs
Riddle (2011) (filming) .... Sheriff Richards
Blood Out (2011) (filming) .... Arturo
Gun (2011) (post-production) .... Angel
Georgia (2010) (post-production) .... Dutchman
Abelar: Tales of an Ancient Empire (2010) (post-production) .... Rollo
... aka "Tales of an Ancient Empire" - USA (original title)

The Traveler (2010) .... The Stranger
MacGruber (2010) .... Dieter Von Cunth
Bloodworth (2010) .... Warren Bloodworth
... aka "Provinces of Night" - USA (original title)
Fake Identity (2010) .... Dr. Nicholas Pinter
... aka "Double Identity" - USA (DVD title)
The Irishman (2010) .... Joe Manditski

Hardwired (2009) .... Virgil
The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans (2009) .... Stevie Pruit
... aka "Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans" - USA (promotional title)
... aka "Bad Lieutenant" - Japan (English title)
The Thaw (2009) .... Dr. Kruipen
American Cowslip (2009) .... Todd Inglebrink
Streets of Blood (2009) (V) .... Andy Devereaux
"Knight Rider" .... K.I.T.T. (18 episodes, 2008-2009)
- I Love the Knight Life (2009) TV episode (voice) (uncredited) .... K.I.T.T.
- Knight and the City (2009) TV episode (voice) (uncredited) .... K.I.T.T.
- Fly by Knight (2009) TV episode (voice) (uncredited) .... K.I.T.T.
- Fight Knight (2009) TV episode (voice) (uncredited) .... K.I.T.T.
- Exit Light, Enter Knight (2009) TV episode (voice) (uncredited) .... K.I.T.T.
(13 more)
The Steam Experiment (2009) .... Jimmy
... aka "The Chaos Experiment" - USA (DVD title)
"XIII: The Conspiracy" .... La Mangouste (2 episodes, 2008)
... aka "XIII" - France (original title)
- Toutes les larmes de l'enfer (2008) TV episode .... La Mangouste
- Le jour du soleil noir (2008) TV episode .... La Mangouste
2:22 (2008) .... Maz
Felon (2008) .... John Smith
Columbus Day (2008) .... John Cologne
Delgo (2008) (voice) .... Bogardus
Conspiracy (2008) .... MacPherson
"Comanche Moon" .... Inish Scull (3 episodes, 2008)
- Episode #1.3 (2008) TV episode .... Inish Scull
- Episode #1.2 (2008) TV episode .... Inish Scull
- Episode #1.1 (2008) TV episode .... Inish Scull
"Numb3rs" .... Mason Lancer (1 episode, 2007)
... aka "Num3ers" - USA (promotional title)
- Trust Metric (2007) TV episode .... Mason Lancer
West Texas Lullaby (2007) .... Henderson
... aka "Have Dreams, Will Travel" - USA (original title)
... aka "A West Texas Children's Story" - USA (new title)
The Ten Commandments: The Musical (2006) .... Moses
Deja Vu (2006) .... Agent Paul Pryzwarra - FBI
Summer Love (2006) .... The Wanted Man
... aka "Dead Man's Bounty" - USA (DVD title)
Played (2006) .... Dillon
... aka "Gangstar" - Japan (English title)
10th & Wolf (2006) .... Murtha
Moscow Zero (2006) .... Andrey
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) .... Gay Perry
Alexander (2004) .... Philip
... aka "Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut" - USA (recut version)
... aka "Alexander: Director's Cut" - USA (censored version)
"Entourage" .... The Sherpa (1 episode, 2004)
- The Script and the Sherpa (2004) TV episode .... The Sherpa
George and the Dragon (2004) (uncredited) .... El Cabillo
... aka "Dragon Sword" - USA (TV title)
Mindhunters (2004) .... Jake Harris
Stateside (2004) .... Staff Sergeant Skeer
Spartan (2004) .... Scott
Blind Horizon (2003) .... Frank Kavanaugh
The Missing (2003/I) .... Lt. Jim Ducharme
Wonderland (2003) .... John Holmes
Masked and Anonymous (2003) .... Animal Wrangler
Run for the Money (2002) .... FBI Agent Mark C. Cornell
... aka "Hard Cash" - USA (video title)
... aka "Hard Cash" - Japan (English title)
The Salton Sea (2002) .... Danny Parker / Tom Van Allen
Red Planet (2000) .... Robby Gallagher
Pollock (2000) .... Willem DeKooning

Joe the King (1999) .... Bob Henry
At First Sight (1999) .... Virgil Adamson
The Prince of Egypt (1998) (voice) .... Moses
The Saint (1997) .... Simon Templar
The Ghost and the Darkness (1996) .... Col. John Henry Patterson
The Island of Dr. Moreau (1996) .... Montgomery
... aka "D.N.A" - Japan (English title)
Dead Girl (1996) .... Dr. Dark
Heat (1995) .... Chris Shiherlis

Keaton as Biblical Noah vs Kilmer as Mark Twain
Keaton as Jack Frost vs Kilmer as KITT

gotta go with kilmer here--heat, kiss kiss bang bang, spartan, bad lieutenant, dr moreau, masked and anonymous, fuckin knight rider, plus the general awesomeness of just becoming fat new mexico b&b owner constantly feuding with his neighbors

i mean dont get me wrong i love michael keaton but... val kilmer man

fuckin val kilmer

easily val kilmer

i am freaked out by val kilmer tbh

did he even play batman?

i don't understand what happened with michael keaton's career after batman. i mean, i like val kilmer fine, but keaton is infinitely more interesting and i think could have had a fascinating career. he has that bill murray quality (a truly haunted and vulnerable comedian, with surprising depth).

^^yeah that's pretty much exactly what i meant. like, keaton had so much potential; i really don't get what happened. he just sort of disappeared.

I think Val Kilmer has the official endorsement of NM governor, death-penalty repealer, and all-around bro Bill Richardson.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwxkyo7ZkP1qzuj2wo1_500.jpg

im saying, man. val fuckin kilmer--legend, prophet, hero, friend

why doesn't some HBO/Showtime/FX auteur create something for Keaton? Even _Pacific Heights: The Series_ where every week he finds a new market speculating couple to fuck with.

Val Kilmer: "Knight Rider" .... K.I.T.T. (18 episodes, 2008-2009)

One of the reasons this show flopped, aside from being absolutely terrible, was that Val Kilmer replaced Will Arnett as the voice.

why doesn't some HBO/Showtime/FX auteur create something for Keaton? Even _Pacific Heights: The Series_ where every week he finds a new market speculating couple to fuck with.

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yeah this is mystifying to me, he is one of those actors who is just begging to be 'rediscovered'

the damages guys should make a michael keaton vehicle.

This is just completely made up in my own mind, but I'd be all for Keaton being the new ADA in Law & Order Los Angeles. Or maybe even one of the cops.

he probably could do soul-crushing paycheque gigs like that if he wanted em

Keaton suffered from the usual round of bad luck and terrible script choices after Batman made him a star.

http://www.now-movies.com/movieimg/movie1263435323.jpg

i blame andie macdowell

I love Val. Keaton, not so much.

very few post-Batman star-vehicles between them, curiously. Kilmer's made stranger movies, but Keaton's made stranger choices.

haven't seen multiplicity but it's a groundhog retread right?

not necessarily a terrible script choice

he probably could do soul-crushing paycheque gigs like that if he wanted em

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i don't know; the reason i was lamenting keaton's lost career is because i saw part of post-grad recently for dumb reasons and it was atrocious and he was in it and it made me sad.

Keaton's good enough and likeable enough to survive bombs, so part of me thinks he just retreated from being in the spotlight many years ago. He seems to do a fair amount of voice work, and star in or take a bit role in a film every now and then, but not even that often.

Kilmer still works like mad, it appears, but I've only seen about 10% of it.

So the real question is: which one of these men is better at self-editing?

i think i read s.thing about 'post-grad' saying it was thought of as a promising film that went sideways, rather than doomed to fail

idk, a lot of stars go away. like steve gutenberg! more noticeable with men than women maybe [via sexism]

His only post-Batman project worth a damn is his FBI agent in those Elmore Leonard adaptations, right? Jesus, I actually saw offal like The Paper and Speechhless (remember that one?) in the theatre, because of him.

more noticeable with men than women maybe [via sexism]

Except for Rene Russo. WHERE ARE YOU RENE RUSSO?!!!

*Speechless

If I knew where Rene Russo was, I wouldn't tell any of you!

I liked the Paper!

re: Keaton. I know full well that My Life is sentimental pap, but it works on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwSkusKaYx4

His only post-Batman project worth a damn is his FBI agent in those Elmore Leonard adaptations, right? Jesus, I actually saw offal like The Paper and Speechhless (remember that one?) in the theatre, because of him.

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yeah, he did manage to be in two of my favorite late-90s movies despite having 'disappeared' so good on him

his cameo in out of sight is <3

His only post-Batman project worth a damn is his FBI agent in those Elmore Leonard adaptations, right? Jesus, I actually saw offal like The Paper and Speechhless (remember that one?) in the theatre, because of him.

he was good in a small supporting role in much ado about nothing

He made this very tiny practically-a-TV-movie thing called Touch and Go, released in 1986 although it was made two years earlier, and, stuck with the unpromising premise of playing a man who takes care of a problematic child, he's so sharp that you think he can redeem any material. He had a nice run before Batman (Clean and Sober, The Dream Team, etc).

Keaton had a couple of years where he was no longer the irritating new guy that the critics said was good but a confident yet still new dude

Kilmer's just awesome all the time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Keaton#Career

lulz

"before batman, batman, after batman"

funny that both these guys are making mini-comebacks this summer with supporting roles in action comedies. hopefully The Other Guys will work better for Keaton than McGruber did for Kilmer.

Kilmer seems to take a perverse delight in the B movie stuff, so it never depressing to see the weird stuff he's in...but Keaton seems to be "in the weeds"...good actor who should be working more, but isn't.

Keaton had a great moment on Ellen a year or two back, she let him pretend to be a tv weatherman & it was pretty funny.

I never minded Keaton but was most amused by his Letterman appearances in the '80s.

voted for Keaton because he always seems more or less ready to do anything post-Batman, where Kilmer had a livewire energy in early stuff like Real Genius and Top Secret that he stopped using since well before his Batman

Jesus, I actually saw offal like The Paper

hey, the paper is a pretty good Front Page remake - great cast, tight script, well-directed by howard, and keaton is fantastic in it.

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from Wiki: Keaton reportedly was cast as Dr. Jack Shephard in the series Lost, understanding that the role of Jack would be a brief one. Once the role was retooled to be a long-running series regular, Keaton withdrew. The part was given to actor Matthew Fox.

I honestly don't know how to vote. I guess Kilmer deserves it for making more daring choices.

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Caught the original tonight on the big screen and while it looks even better than i remembered, while that first third is a total nails-it triumph in the tone and feel and fun and wacky gangster violence man does it saaaaag in the middle. Barely recovers by the finale.

So batman returns is the best batman that's that settled.

is this taking into acct the animated movies?

batman returns is the best one, i'll second that

I've not seen the animated are they very very good

i liked year one

but it got bad reviews

the latest one was godawful

what? the lego one?

the second Year One movie, Year Onerer

the killing joke was the awful one

Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker both outclass at least half the live action films. (TBF so does The LEGO Batman Movie, too, most likely)

I've not seen the animated are they very very good

nhex otm. the animated series itself largely holds up well too - some of the episodes are genuinely fantastic

the thing that the various animated bruce timm takes on batman get right that none of the movies did is that they make batman/bruce wayne an interesting character in his own right - he doesn't get constantly overshadowed by the villains.

kevin conroy is the best on-screen batman there has ever been, really (same goes for mark hamill's joker)

actually i could probably make the case that adam west's batman is probably the second-most-successful onscreen version of the character after kevin conroy's

Unfair on Keaton imo

But regardless nobody buys Bruce Wayne comics

tbf i do like keaton the most of all the modern-era film batmen (batmans?) - the 'you wanna get nuts? let's get nuts!' scene in the first burton batman is a great moment. i like his take on bruce wayne as a charming weirdo with a dangerous streak.

in fact i kinda wonder if he based his wayne on tim burton a bit - a withdrawn, vaguely childlike character with an attraction to dark stuff...

I don't know how it took multiple posts talking about animated Batman movies for someone to finally mention Mask of the Phantasm, which I'm pretty sure is actually the best Batman movie.

Timm's animated DC shows and movies are literally all of the DC adaptations I will ever need. I haven't seen anything that surpassed that material (he says while still slogging through all of the semi-enjoyable but fairly dumb CW shows).

Like there shouldn't ever be another filmed thing featuring Superman if it doesn't outdo the animated series. Which is never going to happen. So just stop already.

the justice league shows were so fucking good iirc

oh yeah, definitely - they handled the ensemble cast and endless supporting players perfectly

the brave and the bold tv series, although timm and most of his voice cast weren;t involved, also did a good job of creating fun stuff in the dcu sandbox

(zack snyder preferred to take a dump in the dcu sandbox obv)

Hey, when there's nowhere to go but down, just go ahead and take a poop in it, is what I say.

It's what I always say. Lots of confused and concerned looks follow.

you poop on someone before you go down on them? tmi dude

go brown on them

He poops to conquer

ive never watched mask of the phantasm but it looks good

will add it to the queue

mask of the phantasm is great but confused the hell out of me when i was younger bc it flows so naturally in and out of flashbacks that it felt non-linear