Quickfire World Cup Poll #19: front up: who will win the World Cup now?

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Poll Results

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Netherlands 23
Germany 20
Spain 12
Uruguay 2


Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:05 (fourteen years ago)

- Holland aren't that good, Brazil just self-destructed. Wesley Schneider is one of the players of the tournament, though. Without him they'd be fucked.

- Uruguay aren't much cop either, frontmen aside. That said, their frontment are very very good indeed. The Ghana defeat was the sort of horrible epic that we're led to believe only ever happens to England. Poor, poor Asamoah Gyan - if he'd been English he'd be written straight into the history books because taking the first penalty straight after that = maximum respect.

- Yes Germany amazing BUT so far they've only played fuckwits like Argentina and England. Like, every single team that played Argentina identified Messi as the major threat and stopped him from playing. It seemingly hasn't occured to anyone that Germany have some quite tasty players and maybe they should approach Ozil/Schweinsteiger/Podolski/Mueller/Klose with some sort of a plan. Germany seem to be able to destroy teams who pour forward and attack - Spain don't do that.

- Spain have been quite rightly shackled by everyone they've played so far and it's ruined most games they've played. Admittedly the first 15mins of the second half yesterday was loltastic. They've managed to not play particularly well throughout this tournament but still win. IF they can work out a gameplan for Germany they might still win this World Cup. That said, no one's really had much of a go at their defence so far and I think Germany might do that and get some joy.

― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Sunday, July 4, 2010 9:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

please make more predictions! I insist.

― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, July 5, 2010 12:53 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

germany will win the WC, and i'm not sure they'll be particularly taxed in doing so. they've been the only team throughout the tournament where the players can tactically adapt on the spot to whatever setup they face. kudos to luuuuuuuuurve for picking the best players available (capello's out mainly because he didn't do this) but i'm not sure that ze germanse need much in the way of coaching after that- there's a lot of footballing intelligence in that squad.

― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, July 5, 2010 1:11 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ok, Andre Oojier to shock the world by doing what Cryuff and van Basten could never do.

― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, July 5, 2010 1:42 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

Spain - Netherlands final, Spain to win the WC.

― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, July 5, 2010 6:58 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so anyway i think spain is gonna win too, they don't seem as susceptible to the german counter attack -- hope parauruguay beats netherlands tbh

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Monday, July 5, 2010 7:17 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:06 (fourteen years ago)

should've done this before the QFs for maximum Brazil/Argentina-related fun

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:07 (fourteen years ago)

I've voted for Netherlands but that's almost entirely on instinct. I love them. I also love the Spanish and the Germans, too, and I have Uruguay in the office sweepstake, so I'm gonna be pretty happy whoever wins.

Netherlands haven't lost in about 25 games; there's got to be something in that, even if they're not attracting headlines and office chitchat seemingly at the moment. Sneijder's awesome, and Robben's coming into form and fitness too.

Germany haven't yet faced a well-organised team who can pass round a defence. They wont be able to neutralise Spain's attack the way they did Messi, because Spain work in a totally different way.

I was gonna start a 'team of the tournament' thread but sod it, I'll do it here...

Casillas
Ramos - Heitinga - Pique - Lahm
Schweinsteiger
Mueller - Sneijder - Xavi
Klose - Villa

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 08:52 (fourteen years ago)

xavi, lw

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago)

Well, no, not really; Villa would pull way out left.

Maybe I should have put it as a 4-3-3 with Schweignsteiger, Sneijder, and Xavi in a triangle behind Mueller, Klose, Villa.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that might work, villa has been playing to the left so far

suárez over klose tho

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:02 (fourteen years ago)

You reckon? I like Suarez, and as a rule don't really like Klose, but Klose's got the goals (again), and I can't really deny that. On past form I'd have loved to put Torres or Rooney in there, but they've obviously been shocking in the actual tournament.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:16 (fourteen years ago)

suárez hasn't nearly the same quality in midfield, and he scored that amazing goal against south korea

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago)

Also the awesome handball and crying one min/celebrations the next. Gotta love a South American 'little thief'.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago)

Good points.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:29 (fourteen years ago)

Pick for pick I'd go with SM's team, I think. Klose practically on his own up front, Ramos doing everything on the right, Villa left wing, the rest just some kind of beautiful footballing fulcrum of beauty with Sneijder playing in the hole.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)

They are great, yeah. xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:30 (fourteen years ago)

Sticking with the Dutch.

Michael Jones, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago)

Same here.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 July 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

      Skeletenburg
van der Wiel Pique Juan Lahm
Bradley Schweinsteiger
Muller Sniejder
Suarez Villa

Voted Holland btw.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:36 (fourteen years ago)

Why are y'all picking Pique and not Lucio? He was colossal every time I saw him, even when the others had lost it.

Bradley's a deserved inclusion - will be interested to see where he ends up.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

have a beard quota.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:40 (fourteen years ago)

I was wondering why suddenly no mention of Fabregas

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 10:40 (fourteen years ago)

Germany or Spain - have a funny feeling that the Germans may have peaked too soon. It'd be good to have a first-timer win but Van Persie is too evil a person to be allowed to lift the World Cup and, y'know, it's Holland in South Africa.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Monday, 5 July 2010 10:42 (fourteen years ago)

Home advantage is pretty much the only way a country ever gets over the first-time winner hurdle, and this is probably the closest Holland is ever going to get.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 10:49 (fourteen years ago)

Aside from the obvious, why's Van Persie so hateful?

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 July 2010 11:03 (fourteen years ago)

He's not, really. He's just dutch/arrogant tbh. Can't understand that hate myself.

(apart from the obvious, as you say, which AFAIR never actually went anywahere)

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 11:21 (fourteen years ago)

eh i think it happens on a regular enough occasions that we can just assume that rapey footballers are a bit rapey

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago)

If I didn't believe it I would have to stop singing that one song to the tune of 'Re-rewind' which would suck

ultra nate carson (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 July 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago)

afaik that was established as a false accusation

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 12:10 (fourteen years ago)

Have all the leftbacks in this tournament been so shit that people have had to put a guy who's played every game at rightback in there? I know Lahm has played LB in the past but still. Coentrão's been alright, and Clemente Rodríguez looked decent for Argentina.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 5 July 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago)

fucile has been well fuckin futile

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 July 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago)

friend of mine had a debate with me as to whether 'futile' or 'facile' would be a better rendering of his name

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 July 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago)

maybe the answer is 'fuckle'

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 July 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago)

coentrao has been dope, yeah my bad. future wasted chelsea left back if ever there was one.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 July 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

eduardo (suárez); lahm, juan, godin (da silva), fucile; arévalo ríos (diego pérez), bastian s., sneijder (donovan), muller; forlán & suárez

villa out. cause: goatee

moullet, Monday, 5 July 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

         Enyeama

Maicon Lucio Inkoom Coentrao

Bradley Mascherano
KPB
Ozil
Tevez
Honda

Eliminees XI, except Ozil who gets in cos nobody else seems to want him.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

Would pick Park over Bradley, we was great in much the same way but did more going forwards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 5 July 2010 12:41 (fourteen years ago)

Picked Holland at the start for no particular reason so sticking with that. I strongly fancy Spain to beat Germany in the semi for what it's worth.

Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Monday, 5 July 2010 13:10 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.electru.de/wp-content/uploads/germany_worldcup2010.jpg

StanM, Monday, 5 July 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)

And the next one's in Brazil, and then the next two get cancelled due to all-out global war. Excellent!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

Will be so disappointed if it isn't a Deutsch v Dutch final

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Monday, 5 July 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.chartstats.com/image/s13434_300.jpg

Get Yr Semi On (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 July 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

I remember an earlier form of that diagram making the rounds pre-'98 to show that it was England's turn to win.

if, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

You could also make a reasonable case that England '66 ≈ France '98. It would be pretty great if Uruguay somehow managed to screw up Brazil in 2014 too.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 5 July 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

I thought germany would run away w/ this

iatee, Monday, 5 July 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

oh, they will.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago)

So everyone thinks it will be a Holland Vs Germany final for sure?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Would be funny if it was Uruguay vs Spain.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

So everyone thinks it will be a Holland Vs Germany final for sure?

What, everyone thinks Germany will beat Spain? Since when?

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

since we decided to revolt against our psychic octopus overlord.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

Even the Psychic Octopus is backing Spain!

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

People be madly overrating Holland here. I think Uruguay might do them this evening.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

I think most people misread the question as "Quickfire World Cup Poll #19: front up: who will win the World Cup not?"

StanM, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

People be madly overrating Holland here. I think Uruguay might do them this evening

To expect them to beat Uruguay isn't madly over-rating anything really.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

underestimating the spanish too

Michael B, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

Spanish have struggled to really impress themselves, despite their undoubted class. I don't know if they'll particularly trouble Germany.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

Start by dropping Torres

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

Don't remember Italy being that impressive either last time round, until suddenly it was like "woah they've won it".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

Italy were far more impressive than France

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

That's Italy though. Pretty much par for the course there.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

Start by dropping Torres

Del Bosque has hinted at exactly that and he has Llorente and Silva available.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Italy were far more impressive than France

France looked plucky and managed to scrape by but that was about it.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

Llorente would be a real sign that they mean business

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

Why are they playing a Premiership player anyway, they're crap

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

Best league in the world, worst players at the World Cup. Richard Keys is sobbing under whips chez Murdoch

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago)


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