What club should I adopt as my favorite in the Premier League this year?

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I am not from the UK, nor have I ever been a major soccer aficianado until this year, but the World Cup was entertaining and I want to watch it more regularly. Due to things like JustinTV, I should be able to see the matches, at least most!

So, help me pick a team to root for, using the following criteria

--No frontrunners. I don't want to root for a club that wins the Premiership year in and out.
--No sad sack clubs that will just get relegated.
--A club with some kind of history and pride (suspect this will mount major debate)

I know little about the Premiership, but I've left out Chelsea and Man U because i know they're frontrunners. Help me!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Liverpool 20
Everton 9
Tottenham Hotspur 8
Arsenal 4
Newcastle United 4
Manchester City 4
Aston Villa 4
Fulham 3
Bolton Wanderers 2
Wigan Athletic 2
West Bromwich Albion 2
Wolverhampton Wanderers 2
Blackburn Rovers 2
Blackpool 2
West Ham United 1
Sunderland 1
Stoke City 0
Birmingham 0


San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

There is only Blackpool

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Oh shoot, didn't see the second stipulation.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

I would say Spurs, not just cos I'm a Spurs supporter-they tick all your boxes, and have just qualified for the major European club contest (Champion's League) for the first time, playing pretty great football. No shortage of drama.

Bonus- feature heavily in ILX debates/arguments.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Another contender- Liverpool have history, and they won't be in contention for anything. They do play awful football though, but there's a new (better) manager just taken over.

Either of those two will be appearing fairly regularly on TV so getting them on illicit streams is also fairly easy.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

im gonna start pretending to give a shit about the tottenham spurs because of the san antonio spurs and pretend like they are sister teams

ॐ nom nom (m bison), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

thanks darragh, the TV angle is also big -- I should have added that as a prereq! since at least the justin.tvs of the world show replays given the time delay!

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

don't take my word for it, i'm not exactly neutral.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

voted for Blackburn because it'd be fun to have a Big Sam stan, now feel guilty after seeing Darragh's earnest helpfulness.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

spurs or everton

caek, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

sheffield united not on the list for what i can only assume are hateful reasons

caek, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

gonna be relegated straight away, innit?

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

jeez how on earth could it be 'fun' to have a big sam stan? that's be like some sick initiation ceremony where you hung a rookie with bacon and throw them into a bearpit

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

ILX needs a Wigan Athletic fan

RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

NOOCASTLE MON

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

i have a bad feeling this poll will have me rooting for some club that has 3,000 fans worldwide.

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

Arsenal, Spurs, Man City, Liverpool are in contention to make it ot Champions' League. City are popular in Manchester and have a lot of new players coming in. Arsenal have excellent finances for a big side that hasn't been taken over by a foreeign oligarch or nabob and they play some lovely football at times. Spurs have improved in recent years and can be a lot of fun to watch. 'Pool are just about to be overtaken as the winningest team in top-flight English football but their star forward, Torres (of Spain) has been struggling w/injury and post-operation recovery and their long-standing mgr has just left. Villa and Everton are good-to-middling sides that won't likely break your heart but won't leave you with too many euphoric ones. They are both very ably managed by well-respected men.

My team isn't in the Premier League so I tend to root opportunistically; often against Man U (except against Chelsea) unless their football is too attractive to slag off. Incidentally, if you're American, Dempsey and Eddie Johnson play for Fulham, giving them exposure to high-quality football that the US team needs, so I often root for them (or at least Dempsey) to win.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

We really, really, really need a Newcastle supporter on the board, and I think they fit your criteria perfectly. I would love it - love it - if you chose them now*. Liverpool, Villa, Spurs and Everton we have covered. The only other sensible choice is West Ham imo, but they may well be relegated this year - though that's kind of fun in its way too.

* this is a historical gag that will be revealed if you take me up on this

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

discount 1 vote for blackpolol, add 1 to spurs due to my hastiness

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha wait of course Newcastle United is the right answer

RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

--No sad sack clubs that will just get relegated.

Waiting for someone to say "Clearly you don't understand football supporters at all."

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

im gonna start pretending to give a shit about the tottenham spurs because of the san antonio spurs and pretend like they are sister teams

― ॐ nom nom (m bison), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:25 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lawl I did this in reverse when they briefly showed the NBA on terrestrial TV here, when I was about 13

Aptly nicknamed ‘Crème’ because he is so edible. Hilarious. (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

discount my Wigan Athletic vote

RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Everton imo

it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

I think, for a discerning fan, Fulham, Villa, Everton have a cache that will mark you out as something of a connoisseur to thos in the know abroad.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

I will go with whatever the official final poll tally is, because voyeurs shouldn't be liars. but um I'll try to remember to discount the votes of the two people above but nobody else!!!

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

hmm yes i am interested in following a club that will make everybody think higher of me

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

Wigan are a bit of an anomaly; rugby region football club where most if not many of the local prolly support Man U.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

San Te, where are you?

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

xxp not newcastle then

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

united states, in the midwest (commuting back and forth between Illinois and Indiana)

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Word of advice:

Don't go with the final tally. It will be a joke vote to trick you. Read the discussion and go where that leads you. ILX football posters are a nasty bunch.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Spend a season just watching soccer and see whose style of play or stadium or fans or whatever appeal to you most.

Picking a favorite sports franchise out of a hat without any real connection is pretty much a guaranteed failure.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

If you're in the Midwest already, why not go for the Columbus Crew? Then you could package together West Ham (I think that's their friendly/sister club).

Bonus to West Ham: you get that movie with the hobbit.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

heh i haven't quite got around to the MLS angle yet, figured i'd take one step at a time. thanks for the idea though, very intriguing.

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Spend a season just watching soccer and see whose style of play or stadium or fans or whatever appeal to you most.

Loading all the bases towards spurs here btw

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Wigan are a bit of an anomaly; rugby region football club where most if not many of the local prolly support Man U.

... or Liverpool

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

Thinking out loud, a couple of things:
-- might consider team's frequency of Special Matches, ie classic derbies, historical grudge matchups etc;
-- team based in major city may be useful if you ever travel to the UK and feel like trying to get to see your team;
-- am curious about Ismael's Newcastle point; was going to mention them since they are in the interesting just-returned-after-one-season-down position.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

I'll just out my prejudices here and say that amongst many of my football following friends, much of this stems not just from the team but the team's supporter culture. Here in SF, I generally loathe the Chelsea supporters, generally tolerate the Man U supporters (esp the long-term ones) and the Gunners (Arsenal) fans. Most of the other supporters have very specific reasons for supporting whomever they do; family or connections or whatever. Newcastle fans are somewhat like England fans imo, they have a far higher opinion of their club than it deserves and a far higher expectation of them. I have a few Magpies fans who are salt of the Earth, but too often I can feel my eyes rolling back in my head when Newcastle fans prattle on...

Also, listen to Darraghmacand vote based on watching games and reading the thread. Have you got FSC or access to it?

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Arsenal
If you want to be spectacularly irritating and admire pretty football that never ever wins anything.

Aston Villa
If you want a young, exciting team of mostly English players with a very good and likeable manager and a chance of the big time. Also some moral high-ground for being sensibly run.

Birmingham
If you are the most boring man in the world.

Blackburn Rovers
If you don't really want to see or say anything of interest for a season.

Blackpool
If you're all about plucky underdogs and the most quotable manager in the country.

Bolton Wanderers
I can't actually think of any reason why you'd choose Bolton.

Everton
See Aston Villa above, with the added bonus of Mikel Arteta who is one of the best players in the league. Also someone needs to share Steady Mike's pain.

Fulham
More plucky underdogs, although I think you may have missed the boat on this one.

Liverpool
Officially now also plucky underdogs. This season can't be much worse than the last one.

Manchester City
If you want batshit thrills and and absolute boatload of money and the genuine possibility of potentially becoming one of the biggest clubs in the world at some point.

Newcastle United
If you like chaos, comedy, disappointment and standing in the rain bellowing with your gut hanging out.

Stoke City
If you want that periodic giantkilling feeling and don't mind not having things like attractive football or 11 players on the pitch.

Sunderland
There is no reason to bother with Sunderland.

Tottenham Hotspur
What Darragh said, they're on the up and will be exciting this season.

West Bromwich Albion
If you want to play attractive attacking football all season, get smashed and then go down.

West Ham United
Do you like chirpy cockneys, bubbles, racism and porn star barons? If so West Ham are your team.

Wigan Athletic
They might unearth one kid who'll go onto signing for Man United.

Wolverhampton Wanderers
Noodle Vague will like you.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

yep I do have FSC

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Matt DC OTM, apart from Spurs

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Columbus Crew? Bullshit, I say. FIRE.

it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

(xps to San Te/milo z)

it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Come to a Fire match and I will buy you a beer.

it's time for revenge, let's attack aggresively (dan m), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Bolton Wanderers
I can't actually think of any reason why you'd choose Bolton.

The fact they've been cheerfully punching above their supposed weight for many seasons now, are playing better football than ever, and have an array of likeable players who occasionally get it together against the big sides?

RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

If you like your football brave and simple and unadorned by excess wealth, you'll love the Evertons and Villas and Fulhams.

If you want flash, you'll like whoever has at present, likely Chelsea or Man U (though either can be efficient but dull at times). Man City have a lot of new signings this year and you'll get in good with a certain kind of Mancunian for not being a United fan.

Fwiw, the only time I root against West Ham is if they're playing my team. I have no idea why this is.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Bolton also have Owen Coyle

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

On balance I think you should go for Spurs, Villa, Everton or Liverpool.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Man City have a lot of new signings this year and you'll get in good with a certain kind of Mancunian for not being a United fan.

I don't think so, not joining up after they became the richest team on earth. Best to avoid City imo.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

xp wolves a good shout but its better to pick a club we dont have a supporter of already imo

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:17 (six years ago)

I'm always fascinated by the existence of a team named "Crystal Palace", where is the crystal palace

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

Status:
Destroyed

Bathos of wikpedia infoboxes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crystal_Palace

The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:28 (six years ago)

shame they haven't rebuilt it

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:29 (six years ago)

silby i beg pls to join ilf as a follower of crystal palace

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:38 (six years ago)

Good to see our overseas marketing paying dividends

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

dollar parity has a way of focusing yere minds id say

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:42 (six years ago)

palace are "my english team" in the most desultory manner possible

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:42 (six years ago)

i think this was purely because they're the eagles and their rivals are the seagulls.

eagles v seagulls

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:43 (six years ago)

very sad there are no takers for plucky little Bournemouth. no I take that back - shit ground no fans!

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 20:50 (six years ago)

silby i beg pls to join ilf as a follower of crystal palace

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:38 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'll take this under advisement, but I can't even manage to think about baseball more than twice per year so it's long odds

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 21:15 (six years ago)

what's the most web-1.0-bauhaus aggregator of football match outcomes, I don't want to have to watch any video content to engage with this bit

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 21:16 (six years ago)

its here id say, depending on whatever the fuck aggregator means in context rly

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 21:39 (six years ago)

FlashScore seems pretty minimal

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

sez Crystal Palace lost to something called the Young Boys in something called the Uhren Cup

Young Boys bit of a shady name for a team honestly

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

https://seeklogo.com/images/S/sport-boys-logo-E6FFB0817F-seeklogo.com.gif

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 August 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

sounds just like some Vichy France era type enterprise ... hmmmm

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 22:02 (six years ago)

https://www.hafetschutter.ch/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/YF-Titel.jpg

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:04 (six years ago)

... now confusingly renamed Young Fellows Juventus.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:05 (six years ago)

https://alchetron.com/cdn/fa-red-boys-differdange-29c340d6-d726-42ab-994d-a0bbd6aca7e-resize-750.jpg

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:07 (six years ago)

let me know when there's an All Boys League

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:09 (six years ago)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQvVoQLiRLDGTvY99wei32STkLIn46Wv9DKQAqb4OBo5EgJ_h1hw

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:12 (six years ago)

... named after Isaac Newell, from the English county of Kent, one of the pioneers of Argentine football.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:14 (six years ago)

we have like 3 palace fans already - bananaman begins, flowersdie and ambrose (latter two may be same person). we don't need any more

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:14 (six years ago)

what's the team for contrarian bourgeois intellectuals

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:26 (six years ago)

arsenal

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:27 (six years ago)

figures

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:27 (six years ago)

Was Arsenal, but definitely now Spurs.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:28 (six years ago)

dont mind him its arsenal

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:28 (six years ago)

Most of ILX support Spurs, enough said?

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:29 (six years ago)

but id submit a decent range in that, otherwise id acknowledge the point

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:31 (six years ago)

Lol at that Norwich own goal

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 August 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

Ok so darragh voted for both Arsenal and Crystal Palace for me, Tom for the Spurs, imago implicitly for something other than Crystal Palace just for diversity. I’m leaning toward Arsenal I suppose unless someone has another idea. Do I have to read that Nick Hornby book?

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:45 (six years ago)

i didnt vote for arsenal

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:53 (six years ago)

Oh sorry for being misrepresenting your stance, you’re right of course you just answered my question.

Anyway I’m going to try out this bit for at least one weekend

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:15 (six years ago)

And I didn't vote for Spurs.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

Silby, Crystal Palace are nicknamed the Glaziers which is pretty badass and their stadium is super cool, if they ever clear the hump and move into a corporate monster stadium you can proudly date your fandom to humbler times.

It must be ten years ago now but I remember reading a BIll Simmons article about picking a team to follow. I wanted to follow a London team and was drawn twd Spurs but resisted for a long time because I really don't like that guy and didn't want to join all his dumb readers.

But ultimately they won out by process of elimination, mainlly because I liked those white kits and for deeply rooted baseball reasons can't support a team that wears red.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:19 (six years ago)

Support Brighton

I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:26 (six years ago)

Sorry can’t abide a seagull

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:29 (six years ago)

American Arsenal fans are the absolute worst.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:03 (six years ago)

Uh oh! Sorry specific user such as imago I’m gonna have to join the Crystal Palace section

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:27 (six years ago)

the actual reason i was against it is that i support one of their rivals. we are now foes haha

imago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 07:38 (six years ago)

Also u will likely have to pick a new favourite premier league team next year silby. But welcome aboard. Imago's puce faced rage when we fluke a win makes it all worthwhile

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:00 (six years ago)

two weeks pass...

So far I have seen all of the Premier matches, 1.5 of the Europa matches. They're sticking better than Everton did when I tried to root for them. I like their style of play and logo

I have a Wolves jersey en route via DHL.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:52 (six years ago)

Also I lied when I was San Te I had never been to Indiana prior to this year

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:56 (six years ago)

We're still a bit up and down and this season is gonna be a big test but when we're playing well we're lovely to watch. And Nuno has a brilliant attitude which shows thru the team imo

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:59 (six years ago)

ten months pass...

9-10 years in the making, it finally happened, the adoption has stuck! with today's finale against Chelsea, i'll have seen 35 of the 38 league matches this year, and probably half of the Euro Cup ones.

like I said upthread, Everton and I didn't click when I tried them out a few years ago, but Wolves and I connected pretty quickly as I enjoy their style of touch-pass play and their scrappy attitudes. they've quickly earned a place in my heart next to my hometown boys. now just gotta keep the fire going for next year!...or I guess this year, in 1.5 months? oof!

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 July 2020 14:15 (five years ago)

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d165129c077b7333cc03b5ecfffda74f1a5607232f9ab6652348d76111f55a9f.jpg

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 July 2020 14:24 (five years ago)

lol!

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 July 2020 14:26 (five years ago)


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