P = NP?

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So? Does it?

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OptionVotes
No 10
Yes 6


2yf36y6Fc424r9Ve (etaeoe), Monday, 19 July 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

By definition, it does.

Aimless, Monday, 19 July 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

In a 2002 poll of 100 researchers, 61 believed the answer to be no, 9 believed the answer is yes, and 22 were unsure; 8 believed the question may be independent of the currently accepted axioms and so impossible to prove or disprove.

http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gasarch/papers/poll.pdf

2yf36y6Fc424r9Ve (etaeoe), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

the p is free iirc

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

N = 1 or P = 0

goth (crüt), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

I solved it

goth (crüt), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

or SUBJ => PP?

youn, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 31 July 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

:-(

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 9 August 2010 04:48 (fourteen years ago)

http://gregbaker.ca/blog/2010/08/07/p-n-np/

Claimed proof that P != NP.

Maltodextrin, Monday, 9 August 2010 06:34 (fourteen years ago)

Why so unhappy, etaeoe?

Maltodextrin, Monday, 9 August 2010 06:37 (fourteen years ago)

So is this question basically "how soon is now"?

Gumbercules (Trayce), Monday, 9 August 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago)

heaven knows it's polynomial now

HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Monday, 9 August 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

looks pretty legit. gonna attempt to read this when i've finished my thesis

hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Monday, 9 August 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

paper is here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/35539144/pnp12pt

hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Monday, 9 August 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

Scott Aaronson (MIT guy) has bet has bet $200k00k that the proof doesn't hold. It'll be interesting to see how all this pans out. My theoretical CS knowledge is close to non-existent so I'm not even going to pretend to read through it...

seandalai, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

has bet has bet??? Um...

seandalai, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

i'll let my peers review it first

Dad Can Dance (LOLK), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

Scott's a stalwart connoisseur of computational complexity. He's also eccentric. I like him.

Why so unhappy, etaeoe?

I'm not sure. BTW: I'm still depressed.

I think I'm either reacting to the discourse or I'm beginning to realize that someday I might live in world where P != NP.

I can't pinpoint why the discourse bothers me. It could be that I'm upset that some people appear eager to establish certainty without verification or persuasion (I'm unconvinced that this proof will be verified). I also found the synopsis of the proof disheartening (however, his use of statistical mechanics is interesting). Scott's remark that he'd be more enthralled by a narrative that included Razborov announcing a proof and the paper is full of intellectual fireworks from page 1 resonates with me.

I hate to admit this. Especially since I've long accepted P != NP. But it'd be heartbreaking if I see a proof of P != NP verified in my lifetime. I'm not sure if a world where P = NP isn't possible is exciting or interesting. However, I take comfort that people were able to move-on from Gödel's incompleteness theorems. Hell, some were even invigorated. But I don't know ...

(I should also admit that I've secretly rooted against finding the higgs boson. So maybe I'm weird.)

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

Looks like it didn't pan out.

Mosquepanik at Ground Zero (abanana), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

i don't understand this even a little bit

goole, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago)


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