US Politics: LOOK AT MY RIGHTEOUS [[redacted]]

ta-da

Pics or it didn't happen.

Whatever happened in Sarah Palin, stays in Sarah Palin.

ew ew ew

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why

can a cock be self-righteous

is a feeling of (usually) smug moral superiority[2] derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average

huh i guess it can, depending on the locker room

what the fuck is up with these cryptoconservative politics threads

why doesn't anybody ever want to look at my bleeding heart cock that's way left

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xp because, presumably, you are rushing it to a fucking emergency ward?

you're right, there's a fucking emergency and I've got just the cock to solve it

if i knew this was coming i would have kept my SAVED CHALK username for a little longer

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Man, don't get me all excited about opening a US politics thread. :-(

Cock or GTFO.

4 kate

http://www.ionlinephilippines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Scott-Brown-cosmo.jpg

well, this might get some play, maybe

ACLU Releases 18-Month Review Of President's National Security Policies And Civil Liberties

I'm terrified to open that link, aero.

he has failed to eliminate some of the worst policies put in place by President Bush, such as military commissions

okay the reuse of words in the English language is getting out of control

"He has also expanded the Bush administration's "targeted killing" program."

Why isn't this a bigger deal? Between some FBI dude reading my email and a drone plane blowing up my house, I'm thinking the latter pushes Obama toward being worse in terms of civil liberties

"The Obama administration should work with Congress to restore the rule of law, and discourage any legislation that would institutionalize policies that were widely regarded as unlawful under President Bush. Together, Congress and the White House should make sure that abuses of power like the Patriot Act are dismantled, not extended, and that policies like indefinite detention are never signed into law," said Laura W. Murphy, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. "It is not too late for President Obama to build a legacy of justice and fairness."

Isn't the problem here that these things were never actually declared illegal by a court of law? Shouldn't we push for that first?

will stan for 'targeted killing' ahead of 'indiscriminate killing' any day of the week.

Also, and I am kind of ambivalent about this, how should we be reacting if 'global war' already is the new normal? Do any of these policies ever make sense?

I am kind of ambivalent about this

YES

wait, what do you mean by that? this is important

I'm not unopposed to military commissions in theory, provided they observe Constitutional norms; but that's not how Bush and Obama have intended them.

I mostly mean "I could reasonably see why none of these policies should ever be done and I could reasonably see why at least some of them should be done". I find most, if not all, distasteful.

I guess my unasked question really is "is it possible to make decisions about how the United States should behave that simultaneously support the desire to treat people with dignity and respect and minimizes internal and external threats to national security?"

So glad I got thrown off the other thread and called a fascist for making that same argument. Good luck, dude!

an i mean what's your understanding of the actual word 'ambivalent'- check out the 'words with opposite meanings thread' i need mod backup.

I was going with "strong but conflicting feelings" and think the other usage is ppl misusing it

i don't have any conflicting feelings about ur sb what they teaching harvard kids these days eh

any chance of changing or at least decapitalizing this thread title btw pls?

^^

yeah i'm asking you to tone down the erection, i'm aware of this

ta!

RIP RIGHTEOUS COCK

will stan for 'targeted killing' ahead of 'indiscriminate killing' any day of the week.

ok, but the US carries out both policies. The distinction is that the first is directed at American citizens.

imo they have more of a right to do that

note- just throwing around the idea, OBVIOUSLY it's some srsly undesirable behaviour from a govt.

will stan for 'targeted killing' ahead of 'indiscriminate killing' any day of the week.

aww man where's your sense of adventure? chaotic evil to the end my friend

btw could we change the thread punctuation to Us Politics: LOOK AT MY RIGHTEOUS, CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT

would also accept "chaotic evil to the end" for thread title

Meanwhile, if this Wonkette post hadn't made it here yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zCY99-Y540

no one in here but us politics

That Wonkette clip makes me wish Tommy Wiseau ran politically

imo they have more of a right to do that

without a trial? and simply because they've been designated terrorists by our faultless intelligence service? I mean, I agree that the govt killing fewer people is of course better, but my point is that current administration is simply broadening the category of people they are allowed to kill, and in a way that sets a incredibly fucked precedent.

oh my God Basil Marceaux

Like father, like son.

The dictionary says in a democracy all members are democcrate—– I am a republican what does that make me ? a traitor

i'm up to the bit where it reveals that senators travel more by underground secret rail network and hogwarts passageways than on foot

it IS a good article. But I can't decide if it's depressing, predictable, or even cynical. It's really hard to cheer for anyone in the sausage factory.

President Obama rekindled a favorite metaphor of his on Monday, telling Democratic supporters that Republicans drove the economy into the ditch before he was sworn in, and that they “want the keys back” now that it’s stabilizing.

“When you get in your car, when you go forward, what do you do? You put it in 'D,' ” Obama said at a Democratic National Committee event in Atlanta. “When you want to go back, what do you do? You put it in 'R.' ”

Republicans are “counting on that you all forgot” how they managed the economy in the Bush years, Obama said, adding that the GOP wants to “bamboozle you.”

lol

“When you get in your car, when you go forward, what do you do? You put it in 'D,' ” Obama said at a Democratic National Committee event in Atlanta. “When you want to go back, what do you do? You put it in 'R.' ”

Corniest thing this guy's EVER said, but I like it.

that's actually kind of genius in a facepalm way

...but when you want to keep your car nice and safe, you put it in 'P'.

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\_O_/

when u wanna stall out, you can always put it in N

Nader? (ew?)

NOBAMA

nazi

when you want to actually have greater control of the car, you have a manual transmission

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only thing i drive irl

getty imaes

who thought it was a good idea to send geithner out singing happy days are here again?

He was giggly and weird on "Good Morning, America."

if they're not gonna fire him they at least need to keep him out of sight.

ACLU intervening in the Awlaki case we were discussing earlier: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/03/awlaki

'9/11 Mosque' appears to be going through. A victory for that historical American value of freedom of religion. The Anti-American Christian extremists that opposed this can sit on it.

crazy that the Treasury Department is now somehow the responsible entity for determining whether someone is a terrorist worthy of being killed. ah, legal "logic"...

xp

really? awesome!

link?

ACLU is the greatest, btw

Mosque story is on CNN and the NYT

yeah, give them money. they need it.

xp no not them

tho they do need it

Oh, GREAT IDEA http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/one-progressives-natl-scheme-to-burn-confederate-flags-at-tea-party-rallies.php

"If -- obviously in our country we give a special status to people wanting to build houses or worship. And we don't consider what religion it is. So that's what we start with, and what makes this an awkward conversation. On the other hand, if the people building this large Islamic center are just looking to build a large facility and house of worship and center in New York, why so close to 9/11, with all the sensitivity associated with that? If they're doing it so close 9/11 to try to bridge the gap and do outreach, as some have said, it obviously hasn't worked, as a lot of the people who lost family and friends on 9/11 are unhappy with it and troubled by it.

"You know, I've also read some things about some of the people involved that make me wonder about what they're involved in building this -- make me wonder about their motivations. I don't know enough to reach a conclusion, but as I said I know enough to believe that this thing is only gonna create more division in our society, and somebody ought to put the brakes on it, as I say. Give these people a chance to come out and explain who they are, where their money's coming from, and see if they can reach out to some of the families of 9/11 victims, to see if they can put their minds at ease, because right now they're not.

-- senator guess who

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Holy Joe?

It's annoying whenever GOP leaders invoke 9/11 families' "unhappiness" when most of NYC is pissed off with the GOP for fucking over 9/11 first responders.

The Anti-American Christian extremists that opposed this can sit on it.
tbf, they're weren't all Xtian! But yeah...

@goole: the Greenwald column I linked goes into how Treasury is involved. I think my brain would explode if I tried to explain it.

god what a fucking shitbag weasel he is

xps

So is a mod unable to fix the bookmark situation on this thread? Cause if not, I wonder if we could move to a new thread. A little early, I know, but there are NSFW concerns :/

I can't fix the bookmark, no

This wasn't even intended to be an actual real politics thread!

Confessions of a Tea Party Casualty, Mother Jones article on former Rep. Bob Inglis, who just lost his runoff to a tea party challenger. Amazing stuff in there.

The week after that meeting with his past funders—whom he failed to bring back into the fold—Inglis asked House Republican leader John Boehner what he would have told this group of Obama-bashers. Inglis recalls what happened:

[Boehner] said, "I would have told them that it's not quite that bad. We disagree with him on the issues." I said, "Hold on Boehner, that doesn't work. Let me tell you, I tried that and it did not work." I said [to Boehner], "If you're going to lead these people and the fearful stampede to the cliff that they're heading to, you have to turn around and say over your shoulder, 'Hey, you don't know the half of it.'"

I sat down, and they said on the back of your Social Security card, there's a number. That number indicates the bank that bought you when you were born based on a projection of your life's earnings, and you are collateral. We are all collateral for the banks. I have this look like, "What the heck are you talking about?" I'm trying to hide that look and look clueless. I figured clueless was better than argumentative. So they said, "You don't know this?! You are a member of Congress, and you don't know this?!" And I said, "Please forgive me. I'm just ignorant of these things." And then of course, it turned into something about the Federal Reserve and the Bilderbergers and all that stuff. And now you have the feeling of anti-Semitism here coming in, mixing in. Wow.

Later, Inglis mentioned this meeting to another House member: "He said, 'You mean you sat there for more than 10 minutes?' I said, 'Well, I had to. We were between primary and runoff.' I had a two-week runoff. Oh my goodness. How do you..." Inglis trails off, shaking his head.

I think everyone here will happily to move whatever new thread some clever politonazi starts. Who wants to take the plunge? You will be a hero to the people.

kind of lol, mostly HOLY FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING

^^ nsfw, but would be an accurate title for new thread

new one: US Politics: Please forgive me. I'm just ignorant of these things.

oh shit!

mods!!

?

http://whisty.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/mods-scooters.jpg

look you guys work out which one you want, I don't really care

lol well that was easy

i'm cool with the other one, elephant rob was first anyway

he blinked first!

ha, shit, this is turning in to a Green Party rally

lol xps there

ha

radio free ilx, broadcasting live from, shit, is this on

william bennett bringing the kind of lols but mostly sads on cnn atm

oh whoops new thread

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