What team should I adopt as my favorite in the NFL this year?

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In part because I've wanted to pick one for a couple of years and finally get into the sport, and part because I was inspired by the "What club should I adopt as my favorite in the Premier League this year?" thread, I've decided to make a similar poll only for football. I don't promise to pick the tema that gets the most votes but it will definitely factor in -- I'm more likely to pick a team based on consensus of the real footballheads here (Hey Arnold) as compared to random votes by the punters (hahahahaha). But seriously. Who should I become a football fan for, and why?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Green Bay Packers 5
Minnesota Vikings 4
FOOTBALL IS THE WORST YOU BUM 4
San Francisco 49ers 3
Philadelphia Eagles 3
Cincinnati Bengals 3
St. Louis Rams 2
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2
Miami Dolphins 2
Oakland Raiders 2
Detroit Lions 2
Baltimore Ravens 2
Buffalo Bills 2
Denver Broncos 1
Washington Redskins 1
Tennessee Titans 1
San Diego Chargers 1
Pittsburgh Steelers 1
Chicago Bears 1
New York Jets 1
Arizona Cardinals 1
New England Patriots 1
Cleveland Browns 1
Houston Texans 0
Indianapolis Colts 0
Atlanta Falcons 0
Jacksonville Jaguars 0
Seattle Seahawks 0
Kansas City Chiefs 0
Dallas Cowboys 0
Carolina Panthers 0
New Orleans Saints 0
New York Giants 0


the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

where do you live and where did you grow up?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)

I hear The Oakland Raiders are a good NFL team

Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)

I'm a Colts fan, not that I've ever watched them, but my inlaws got me a t-shirt

Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

So I'm a Colts fan

Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

packers

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

horseshoe: I grew up in Canada, so I never really got into an NFL team, which is why I'm making the poll. I sort-of watched the CFL, and I know the game pretty well (in fact my company is working on a VIDYA GAME OF FOOTBALL and I'm the only "expert" in my room). I now live in Montreal so it is pretty safe that I will never, ever have an NFL franchise here.

armrl: What are the colts and raiders deals?

iatee why packers?

Storylines and qualities I like in a sports team:
- mid-market teams with a tendency to create stars (like the Oakland A's, or Chicago Blackhawks)
- A decent bit of history and legend in its past
- A successful but distant past OR brushes with success in the recent past (like the Toronto Blue Jays, Cincinnati Reds or Tottenham Hotspur)
- Exciting, attack-minded play (like the Washington Capitals or FC Barcelona)
- Ensemble casts
- Someone maybe known for having a good kicker, because, why not right? Good for them, they're football players sort of!
- Teams at least sort of respected by the ILXors but maybe not with a whole bunch of out-and-out fans, so, you know, I can be one of the only fans of the team and still people won't wanna fight me
- A team that people don't hate in general
- A city I might want to visit someday

Storylines and qualities I'm not a fan of in a sports team:
- a reputation for having the most irritating fans (like the Philadelphia anythings)
- a major money team that sucks the talent out of lower market teams (Yankees)
- An absolute Goliath (Manchester United, LA Lakers)
- An absolute David (Blackpool, Toronto Raptors)
- A reputation for idiocy rather than sport (Philadelphia Flyers)
- Teams built around a single player (Washington Capitals)
- Teams with too many fans on ILX (gotta rep, you know?)

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

oh i see. you can root for the bills when your nation steals them from me >:[

horseshoe, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

Nah, see, that's in Toronto, and as a general rule it's not okay to cheer for a Toronto-based team when in Montreal. Only now that there hasn't been a baseball team (as in, ANY baseball team -- if there were a AAA team, it wouldn't be okay) for like a decade is it somewhat okay to like the Jays. The Leafs, the Argonauts, even the Raptors and Toronto FC (where we don't even have an equivalent) are right out.

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)

root for the chiefs?

wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)

packers
- have a bizarro non-profit ownership / basically the only sports franchise in america that you can support without giving money to awful rich people
- only nfl team in a small city - or at least, that has that small city's name on the franchise
- probably have the most dedicated fans all things considered
- are a pretty good team right now w/ a qb who is fun to watch
- quite close to canada

cons
- the fans wear oversized cheese hats

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

also I suggest you sign up for a fantasy football team - gives you a reason to want to watch games you would be totally bored w/ otherwise

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

Oakland:

Pros
- great history
- awesome team colors
-some cool players, like Nnamdi!
-awesome tailgates with my friends, rain hail or shine
- no Jamarcus!
- dedicated fans
-sometimes I see Ice Cube in the stands.

Cons
-Al Davis
-Al Davis
-Al Davis
-also the losing thing sucks
-Monday Night Football
-everyone thinks we knife fight in the parking lot. Truth bomb: fans just get drunk and cry when we lose now.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:36 (fifteen years ago)

Xpost Iatee otm about Fantasy...definitely will help

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:36 (fifteen years ago)

omg, all your pros are fulfilled by philly and then you're like, con, "philly is too obnoxious," how is that not just another pro???

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)

lol posts v much in character <3

horseshoe, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

also otm frankly

horseshoe, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)

The Packers are pretty lovable with Aaron Rogers.

And my feeling on obnoxious fans is that it's never obnoxious if it's your team (unless youre losing in the rain & everyone's drunk & booing)

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

And my feeling on obnoxious fans is that it's never obnoxious if it's your team (unless youre losing in the rain & everyone's drunk & booing)

thing is if you're a 'new' fan then the fans aren't 'your people' immediately and you just feel super out of place. :/

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

Storylines and qualities I like in a sports team:
- mid-market teams with a tendency to create stars (like the Oakland A's, or Chicago Blackhawks)
- A decent bit of history and legend in its past
- A successful but distant past OR brushes with success in the recent past (like the Toronto Blue Jays, Cincinnati Reds or Tottenham Hotspur)
- Exciting, attack-minded play (like the Washington Capitals or FC Barcelona)
- Ensemble casts
- Someone maybe known for having a good kicker, because, why not right? Good for them, they're football players sort of!
- Teams at least sort of respected by the ILXors but maybe not with a whole bunch of out-and-out fans, so, you know, I can be one of the only fans of the team and still people won't wanna fight me
- A team that people don't hate in general
- A city I might want to visit someday

dolphins imo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

#2 titans
#3 broncos
#4 packers

based on your criteria

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

Pick a team that sucked last year or else you are a savage.

no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:49 (fifteen years ago)

real talk imo

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

i would pick a team that barely missed the playoffs -- i.e. three of the four teams i listed

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)

i wouldn't advocate following the browns/bills/lions/jags etc -- have to give yourself some reason to watch!

for an underdog that could be good this year, you could pick the texans

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)

sucky teams build character. As a Raiders fan I have character in spades. (And the looming possibilty of relocation...)

You haven't lived until you've shed tears on Monday night.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:54 (fifteen years ago)

sucky teams don't build fans of the sport tho

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:56 (fifteen years ago)

sucky teams make you go "this is fucking boring"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)

sucky teams make you become a fan of the game, so you can watch other teams win & wistfully envision what it will be like

Or if you randomly beat the Eagles at home (!) it's like winning the superbowl

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:00 (fifteen years ago)

But yeah, maybe not real much to recommend sucky teams for new fans. Pains me to admit it

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

another plus for the packers is that the favre/vikings drama is a pretty easy storyline to pick up and follow

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

#2 titans
#3 broncos
#4 packers

Not broncos, but I'll second Titans + Packers. Titans have the biggest RB talent in the NFL atm (the stellar and incredibly young Chris Johnson) and an exciting QB who, assuming he can stay sane (big if), is always a pleasure to watch on the field (Mr. Vince Young). Packers are great for the reasons mentioned above, tho one caveat, imo Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a whole lot of personality. But he's as good a QB as there is, and the Packers are a contender team that should be exciting to follow. Miami seems a little intense imo for a new fan (it's unclear what the situation is there, but we can assume they'll be running a ton of weird and unconventional plays, Henne isn't exactly a traditional QB and if last year is any indication there will be lots of out-of-nowhere bizarre lol Ricky Williams taking a snap and throwing an interception moments). Broncos maybe interesting if you want to follow the Tim Tebow saga, imo, because if you sign on with them now, that'll be the story for the next five years or so.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)

people who aren't dicks can still have personality

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:04 (fifteen years ago)

I mean I guess that's his personality - "not a dick"

iatee, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:06 (fifteen years ago)

If I can pitch the Iggles briefly -- brand new QB (Kevin Kolb) starting after Philly spent like a decade with McNabb, and a brand new starting RB (Shady McCoy) after like a decade with Brian Westbrook. This is DeSean Jackson's third year (WR) and he's a huge playmaker, and Jeremy Maclin's second (exciting trying to prove himself storyline), TE Brent Celek is excellent. The team has a bunch of receiving weapons and Reid has said he's going to playing a West Coast Offensive which basically means tons of short yardage passing and (since Jackson isn't going away) some big passing plays. Rumor is that Kolb has a more accurate throwing arm than McNabb too -- and passing is ALWAYS exciting in the NFL. Plus a HUGE fullback (how many teams even use a fullback regularly) in Leonard Weaver, and a lot of fun defensive players, including Asante Samuels who can't tackle but is a huge interception playmaker and a lot of young new defensive players (like rookies Nate Allen at safety, and Brandon Graham at DE). And we even have a great kicker! David Akers who is a consistent and excellent kicker... and a black belt!

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

At the very least pick a team that has never won a Super Bowl.

no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

OK I do not feel like studying, so let's just go apeshit on this. Nota bene: I am a Green Bay Packers fan, with no inherent connection to the state of Wisconsin. I adopted them in the mid-1990s after the Raiders and Rams left Southern California, because I really liked this young gunslinger they had playing quarterback named Brett Favre. It turned out he was the devil but that is a story for another day.

Storylines and qualities I like in a sports team:
- mid-market teams with a tendency to create stars (like the Oakland A's, or Chicago Blackhawks)
The star creation is trickier because so many guys in the NFL are at least relatively well-known in college (especially big name skill players), though tons of exceptions exist (most notable is probably Tom Brady). You might like a team that has a particular system of using its personnel that can seemingly produce value out of any random dude they sign; the Patriots are probably the best at this. In terms of midmarkets, Green Bay is a unique (and magical~) case, but New Orleans and Jacksonville and Buffalo all have gone through struggles of a smaller market. Jags and Bills have been threatening to move for seemingly ever, and the Saints had threatened until they became awesome. Pittsburgh has an MLB team and a very good NHL team but in terms of civic dependence on/pride in their NFL team the Steelers are right up there with the Packers.

- A decent bit of history and legend in its past
The Chicago Bears and the Arizona Cardinals are the oldest teams in the game, but the Packers, Lions, Giants, Redskins, Steelers, Rams and Eagles all predate WWII. The NFC North guys (Detroit & Chicago & Green Bay, and the Vikings to a lesser extent), the NFC East guys (Philadelphia & Washington & NY Giants, plus the Dallas Cowboys), and Pittsburgh always seemed like the most historic to me. Although also the San Francisco 49ers have won 5 Super Bowls, so they warrant a mention.

- A successful but distant past OR brushes with success in the recent past (like the Toronto Blue Jays, Cincinnati Reds or Tottenham Hotspur)
Chicago Bears are the first team that comes to mind for this.

- Exciting, attack-minded play (like the Washington Capitals or FC Barcelona)
I think the ILNFL favorite team to watch might be the Miami Dolphins, who turned an unusual personnel situation (two incredible running backs and relatively little quality at the other offensive skill positions) into a since-much-copied formation called the Wildcat, which when successful is one of the most wonderful things you can ever hope to see. The other offensively explosive teams all center around an elite QB: the Saints and the Colts were consistently ridiculous last year, and the Chargers, Patriots, and Packers all had the ability to put up a ton of points but then sometimes didn't. Three other teams were in this group but might not be this year: the Steelers QB is suspended for a while cause he pulled his dick out in a bar, the Cardinals QB retired to spend more time with Jesus, and the Vikings QB may or may not be back, he isn't sure yet. The Vikings still do have one of the best RBs and several very good receivers, and a very talented sub-human D-Lineman named Jared Allen, but their QB situation either has a very high ceiling (if Favre comes back), or a very average one.

- Ensemble casts
I am just gonna mention here that I always liked the Baltimore Ravens because of their entire defense. Ray Lewis was and still is the center of it, but when the Ravens defense is shutting teams down I really really enjoy it. The NY Jets are also a team with a lot of really likable players and a very strong defense, but they do tend to have awful fans.

- Someone maybe known for having a good kicker, because, why not right? Good for them, they're football players sort of!
Last year was a bad year for kickers. The SD Chargers have a well-regarded kicker (who also sometimes reviews movies for an alt-weekly in Iowa!) and an amazing punter. The Oakland Raiders also have an excellent kicker (who is also a drunk!) and an amazing punter.

- Teams at least sort of respected by the ILXors but maybe not with a whole bunch of out-and-out fans, so, you know, I can be one of the only fans of the team and still people won't wanna fight me
Speaking personally, I am delighted to have anyone join the GB Packers fanbase at any time, but I also to a greater or lesser degree enjoy watching the current forms of the San Diego Chargers, Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, pretty much everyone in the AFC South (Indianapolis, Tennessee, Houston, and Jacksonville, although to be honest I mostly like the Jags because their main offensive weapon is a former UCLA Bruin), NY Giants, New Orleans Saints, and San Francisco 49ers. I would like the Detroit Lions also but they play in the same division as Green Bay.

- A team that people don't hate in general
I hate the Vikings and Raiders for many reasons, and am annoyed with the Washington Redskins because I live in DC now. More commonly, people do not like the New England Patriots and some or all of the NFC East (especially Dallas). People seem to be getting annoyed with the Pittsburgh Steelers, even before their quarterback pulled his dick out in a bar.

- A city I might want to visit someday
Other than the big market teams (Giants & Jets & Bears), the Saints seem like the obvious choice here. Although I do enjoy the city of Denver a great deal. And I went to Green Bay, Wisconsin once, and had a wonderful time. But then I also enjoyed Minneapolis...

Storylines and qualities I'm not a fan of in a sports team:
- a reputation for having the most irritating fans (like the Philadelphia anythings)
Yeah definitely the Eagles. The NY Jets. Maybe the Raiders, but they suck too hard right now so you kind of pity them.

- a major money team that sucks the talent out of lower market teams (Yankees)
The NFL is not run in a way that supports this, really.

- An absolute Goliath (Manchester United, LA Lakers)
It is difficult to say that the Patriots are still a Goliath but I think as long as Belichick and Brady are around the memories of 2007 will remain and I will still think of them as inherently evil. The Colts in the Peyton Manning era are also consistently very very good, but they're usually flawed someone and also hanging around ILNFL eventually makes one give into Horseshoe's enthusiasm for her/our Peyty.

- An absolute David (Blackpool, Toronto Raptors)
Raiders, Rams, Browns, Lions, Chiefs...the fun thing about the NFL though is that at some point this will probably turn around. The Lions have one unbelievable WR plus a likeable and potentially very good QB and then they took two of my favorite college guys in the first round of this year's draft.

- A reputation for idiocy rather than sport (Philadelphia Flyers)
Raiders are basically run by an insane zombie. Lions are potentially at the end of a long long tunnel of idiocy, also.

- Teams built around a single player (Washington Capitals)
This is basically impossible in the NFL. Peyton Manning probably has more value over a replacement (particularly if his replacement is Curtis Painter, which it is) than any other player in football, and even then he has 0 control over the Colts defense. There are some crappy teams that are only worth watching for one player, but that's kinda different.

- Teams with too many fans on ILX (gotta rep, you know?)
I think a lot of ILNFL people are like me and have like one team they actually really live and die by, and then like five or ten other teams they like watching for some reason or another. There's usually only like one or two or three people who really are hardcore fans of a particular franchise, and then I think to some extent if you hang around ILNFL enough you begin to be like "OK fuck it the Miami Dolphins are awesome".

C-L, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)

Not to mention that with the Iggles you inherent a rivalry with the most disgusting savage team in football instantly (the Cowboys!). And the Iggles are constant contenders, but lost the last time they went to the Superbowl (in 2004) and haven't won one ever. They're totally due, and you could get in on the ground floor! (They did win 3 NFL titles tho, so they have history too!)

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and I'm sure daria could drop by and tell you this, but as a sometime admirer of Washington fans, I have to say: Stay away from the Redskins. They will break your <3.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I probably shoulda thrown the Redskins and their terrible terrible owner in the "Idiocy rather than sport" category.

C-L, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:14 (fifteen years ago)

I think Packers are a perfect choice for a new fan except that I find them so boring. Is Greg Jennings the most boring RB for a contender team?

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:15 (fifteen years ago)

Er, WR, I mean, of course.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)

Steelers QB is suspended for a while cause he pulled his dick out in a bar

Understatement!

no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

Steelers are a good team to root for if you like a lot of rape storylines in your football.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

Jingoistic sidenote: Iggles have former Collingwood booter/Australian Sav Rocca as their punter.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:20 (fifteen years ago)

Fun comment I just ran into that helps explain why I love watching the Iggles so much (from the training camp notes: http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/16494/camp-confidential-philadelphia-eagles ):

As I noted in my observations last week, Andy Reid's team hits harder than any of the other teams in the division during camp. We're not simply talking about thuds. I'm talking about linebackers taking ball carriers to the ground. This is how things were done about 20 years ago across the league. Roseman told me that the Eagles felt like it was important to quickly introduce the rookies to how physical the league is.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:21 (fifteen years ago)

The biggest downside to rooting for Philly tho: Our team seems to have the hots for dog-abusers :/

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:23 (fifteen years ago)

Also booing Santa Claus

C-L, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)

Meh, he deserved it.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)

everything C-L said in that long post is pretty otm. i do not recommend rooting for the jets or cowboys in terms of most-hated-on-ilnfl teams but otherwise it is a p diverse fanbase and i honestly would not have believed it possible that i would one day like the miami dolphins but that is what ilnfl has done to me. i have to say, too, who really cares about a long and storied history?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)

tho one caveat, imo Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a whole lot of personality.

*sighs*

http://5secondfilms.com/watch/fantasy_football/

And I can't even find that .gif of Aaron Rodgers celebrating a touchdown by doing the WWE "phantom belt" gesture

Cunga, Sunday, 15 August 2010 04:46 (fifteen years ago)

are there really no jets fans on ilnfl?

― iatee, Monday, August 9, 2010 11:42 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

um, i am a Jets fan. i am also an Eagles fan. i guess i just have a thing for teams w/ asshole fans.

The Beatles are not pizza!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 15 August 2010 05:06 (fifteen years ago)

but while Jets and Eagles fans may be assholes, at least they aren't douchebags (like so many Cowboys fans are). not to mention that if you have the history that either the Jets or Eagles have, and see how pleasant you'd be.

The Beatles are not pizza!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 15 August 2010 05:08 (fifteen years ago)

Stay away from the Redskins. They will break your <3.

this is true. i don't have a choice! still, i voted for them. skins could use some new fans. also they have a lot of personality. the official redskins blogger is a good read. though sadly, no more FRED SMOOT this season, not to mention yoder, colt brennan (who i keep forgetting never played a down in a real NFL game, but who made many appearances on the cooleyblog)

i'm still calling plays for them til coach shanahan tells me otherwise, so stay tuned! it'll be a fun season no doubt. he's not on our team anymore but we're still taking inspiration from todd yoder on naming the plays after small furry animals.

"About Todd? Well, he would be our resident linguist. I would have to add [Chris] Cooley to this, because they're kind of partners in crime. But Todd is very good about creating words for formations, blocking schemes. Like, weasel, squirrel, things like that. So we have some of that on our football team just based on what Todd Yoder has to say about it."

So I talked to Yoder yesterday about his role as developer of team nomenclature, and about facing his former team.

"Welp, first of all," Yoder said, "any small furry mammal qualifies. See, if you look at the animal world, there's a lot of things like lions, tigers, eagles ... you know, people like to use all these names. Bears. But the small furry mammal is overlooked.

"So we thought that just to add a little enthusiasm, we'd name some of these plays or calls or words that we need in our offense after small furry mammals. So you've got, like, weasel, beaver. We're still looking to try to get muskrat and mongoose into the gameplan. Wombat is a new one that Cooley came up with. That's a good one.

"You know, there's a lot of other ones. Squirrel is in, obviously. You could go chipmunk, woodchuck ... there really are a lot of them out there. I would say right now we've got, like, four in. And we're trying to get some of the other ones."

Mongoose would really seem to be a no-brainer. Vicious little creatures.

Yoder: "Right, exactly. Thank you. You've got ferret ... why wouldn't you want to have a 'ferret' call in your offense."

Does Coach Zorn seem happy with this trend?

Yoder: "I think the combination of Chris Cooley and myself, we've come up with some good stuff, and it makes sense."

wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Sunday, 15 August 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)

Key factors at play for me.

No top dogs. You want a team which, if it succeeds, you will be especially thrilled, for you never expected much beyond a .500 season. By the same token, no doormats, either, or your spirit will be crushed week after week.

Next, pick a team whose mascot and uniform make you feel good. You can always find a few players with compelling personal stories and personalities to root for on any team, but a crappy uniform or mascot will haunt you forever.

If you are still undecided among several teams, pick the team associated with the city that you'd most like to live in, of the remaining cities.

I assigned you the Arizona Cardinals. Feel free to ignore this choice in favor of your own.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

I am still waiting for the Portland Wombats to enter the league before I give my heart away.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

One of my all-time favorite moments on ILNFL is when someone (I don't remember who) transcribed the dialogue between the NFL commissioner and Cleveland when Cleveland got a team and someone can probably dig up the exact quote but it was something like:
Comm: You can have any mascot or theme you want. Birds, animals, badass professions, anything cool like that.
Cleveland: We want the color brown.
Comm: I've made a terrible mistake.

Mordy, Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

here

it was Ally

horseshoe, Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

oh man, it was even better than i remembered it

COMMISH: HELLO CLEVELAND YOU NOW HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM YOU CAN PICK ANY KIND OF ANIMAL OR GOD OR REALLY WHATEVER YOU LIKE AS YOUR MASCOT, ANYTHING IN THE WORLD EXCEPT LIKE A BEAR, OR A GIANT BASICALLY. WHAT DO YOU WANT?

CLEVELAND RESIDENTS: UM WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE COLOR BROWN

COMMISH: WE'VE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE HERE HAVEN'T WE OH WELL HERE YOU GO

Mordy, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

what is brown even supposed to be in reference to? anything?

i still like cleveland browns mroe than like cleveland indians, or wash redskins -- it feels weird to cheer for a reference to race

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

the only choice that makes sense are the Cleveland Browns

-scrappy over the hill QB named Jake has to prove to himself and the free world that he can still play at least one more year. His daughter only has 16 games to live, which adds extra drama
-no logo on the helmet
-Browns fans are handsome
-Mike Holmgren has to turn a bunch of rag-tag misfits into a competitive football team or else

brownie, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Browns are named after their coach, Paul Brown, the inventor of modern football

brownie, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, the indian-named teams in the nfl are a fucking disgrace. chiefs, too. america is weird!

xxpost <3 brownie

horseshoe, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

it isn't only america.

cfl's EDMONTON ESKIMOS! term is possibly even more offensive than "redskins" or "indians" for first nations... at least they dont have a cartoon dude mascot, liek the chiefs i think it's just letters and words

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

School me on my ignorance, but why is Edmonton Eskimos worse than Washington Redskins?

Mordy, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

"Eskimos" appropriates a specific tribe for commercial degradation, rather than a broad general category, and it gets the name wrong, too. They're Inuit.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Ok, I hear that, but I still think using a derogatory term for an entire race trumps any kind of tribal exploitation.

Mordy, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

I'd tend to agree with that assessment, too. Redskins is more akin to the n-word.

At least the Redskins' logo shoes a bit of dignity. The Cleveland Indians' mascot (aka "Chief Yahoo") is the exact equivalent of a watermelon-eating wide-grinning cartoon Negro from the 1930s. The fact that they persist in keeping it, in the face of this being pointed out to them repeatedly, throws a racist cloud over all of MLB.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 August 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

maybe after we figure out which one is worse we can come up with a measurement to figure out exactly how much worse it is

max, Sunday, 15 August 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

omg 2 people voted the bills! i love u crazy people!

on the other hand:

FOOTBALL IS THE WORST YOU BUM 4

>:[

horseshoe, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

is chicago really considered mid-market? does this mean that only NY and LA are major markets? how could anyone root for the bears with Jay Cutler as quarterback unless it is rooting for one of his teammates to knock him out when he's crying? on the other hand rooting for the lions is a pressure free existence "you start out depressed, everything else is a pleasant surprise" or something like that.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

packers fandom seems like a legit smart way 2 go

johnny crunch, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

i don't think chicago is considered mid-market, no; that seems crazy.

horseshoe, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

chicago is big-market.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

there is the chicago-montreal *connection* that i made up in my head, though

horseshoe, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

also FOOTBALL IS THE WORST YOU BUM.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

my understanding was similar to this blogpost, which is opposite to aimless' explanation. "eskimo" is preferred in alaska because it does not refer to a specific "tribe," but rather is inclusive of two distinct first nations groups. of course, i guess in canada where the football team actually plays, eskimo is considered offensive.

xpost

green bay lols, they are like celtics fans of football.

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno, we are probably more polite and more likely to die of heart disease than Celtics fans.

C-L, Monday, 16 August 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago)

So is Will going for the Packers?

Mordy, Monday, 16 August 2010 04:09 (fifteen years ago)

Yay Pack!

Weird Al Paca (SeekAltRoute), Monday, 16 August 2010 06:59 (fifteen years ago)

I like to think my vote last night was the deciding factor. The cheesehead hat is already in the mail, Will.

Cunga, Monday, 16 August 2010 08:21 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, based on the talk & the polls I have created 5 'tiers', final decision will be made once i watch a few games this year. It might even take me a whole season but I hope not.

TEAMS I WON'T BE ADOPTING:
Buffalo (sorry mr. shoe but I can't root for a team that might end up in Toronto)
Denver
Washington
Pittsburgh
NY Jets
New England
Atlanta
Jacksonville
Seattle
Kansas City
Dallas
Carolina
New Orleans
NY Giants

TEAMS I WILL PROBABLY NOT ADOPT UNLESS SOMETHING REALLY JUMPS OUT OF NOWHERE TO CHANGE MY MIND:
San Francisco
Philadelphia
St. Louis
Tampa Bay
Arizona
Cleveland
Houston

TEAMS WITH AN OUTSIDE CHANCE THAT I MAY PAY SOME ATTENTION:
Minnesota (what's up with that 2nd place showing!)
Cincinnati (not sure I am on board for a circus)
Tennessee
San Diego
Chicago

TEAMS WITH AN INSIDE CHANCE, I WILL DEFINITELY PAY ATTENTION:
Oakland
Detroit
Baltimore
Indianapolis

TEAMS THAT ARE LOOKING MOST LIKELY:
Green Bay
Miami

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Monday, 16 August 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

yay! i think you will be happy with gb or miami

horseshoe, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

nb: i did not vote for the bills; i would never wish that misery on another human being

horseshoe, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

likely story mr. horseshoe

brownie, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

was mr. shoe a gaffe on my part :S

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Monday, 16 August 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

haha i'm a chick; it's okay!

horseshoe, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

if it's any consolation one of my fave players OAT (i used to watch some CFL when iwas a kid) spent some of his twilgiht years in buffalo! FLUTIE!

the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Monday, 16 August 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

flutie is an angel straight from heaven; we done him wrong

horseshoe, Monday, 16 August 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

So did the Bears.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 16 August 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

packers and dolphins are fine, fine choices.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 16 August 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

SIX YEARS LATER, A RESPONSE

So I started trying to get into an individual team but instead ended up doing the thing that I usually do to get into a sport: playing the fantasy version.

So initially, the year before I got into my fantasy fb league, I think it was Russell Wilson's rookie year? And I got really excited watching this dude. So, the Seahawks became my team! Wilson! Lynch! People hitting each other hard! But then they won a Super Bowl, and I had never bought a jersey, so it felt gauche to continue being a fan of them.

Then when I started playing fantasy football I got Luck and Hilton, so I sort of became a defacto Colts fan. They've probably moved to #1 on my "fave" chart if someone asked me w/ a gun to my head. Second place may be Green Bay (but it feels weird to cheer for a team that's so often good), third place changes based on the year (for example: Carolina last year, because <3 Cam Newton).

I had forgotten about this thread until I saw someone on FB essentially ask the same question, and I remembered iatee's spectacular 20th/21st/22nd century post and had to reshare it. Then I realized I should follow up b/c you all care so much about my pick here.

It may be time for me to actually put my money where my mouth is and pick the Dolphins for real! I LOVE TEAL, ask anyone. I have a hornets jacket, a saraperos de saltillo baseball cap... plus Miami seems like a fun place to go, and... well, I guess I'll learn some players to get excited about. Tannehill is kinda boring.

a simba man (Will M.), Monday, 8 August 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)

http://imgur.com/a/NmnV4

no poke balls (rip van wanko), Monday, 8 August 2016 17:43 (nine years ago)

Oddly I was thinking this question earlier today and I came up with the Dolphins too

"Stop researching my life" (Ste), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:33 (nine years ago)

Packers Packers Packers

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)

some of this thread is p funny hindsightwise

honestly tho, we have a whole bunch of dolphin fans on ilx and we definitely do not need any more. to the best of my knowledge/recollection the teams i do not think we have ever had fans of/allegiance with are: detroit, tampa, carolina, indy(?? seems wrong but can't think who), houston, arizona, kc

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:46 (nine years ago)

i'll try to be the token indy fan because big andrew luck is great. i don't watch many games tho. no cable & also i'd rather watch baseball or netflix.

a simba man (Will M.), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:57 (nine years ago)

five years pass...

i have an enormous deadline this week for work so what am i doing? finding old threads i remembered and doing a little retrospective

first of all, a post that i think about ALL OF THE FUCKING TIME:

my final list before I go to bed, 3 honest recs, I entirely support the idea of these teams:

packers
- good traditional 20th century fun football

bengals
- 21st century football where it's basically a reality tv show w/ lots of divas and the arguments and stuff people say is more important than the game that was just played

raiders
- 22nd century football - zombies in control of the world, game of football basically doesn't exist anymore, entire population is in jail / looks like they're in jail / should be in jail, you are the reality tv show and it is everywhere

― iatee, Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:01 AM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

one of my fave posts of all time. it lives in my mind permanently. i cant see the logo for the raiders without thinking "22nd century football"

i made an update 6 years ago saying how i became a seahawks fan but then they won and i felt weird being a fan of a team that won (even though i signed up before they won? whatever) and switched to the colts bc luck, but that O-line bummed me (and luck!) out, i floated around until i fell in love with lamar jackson and just became a ravens fan from the day he was drafted til today (i was NOT HAPPY they were gonna try and make him play rb). so i guess that is where im at, i will never be a permanent fan of any team at this point tho, got into it too old, i live on the bandwagon.

it is also really funny to read about why teams are good and bad from 11 years ago because those reasons are extremely no longer the case aside from a couple. football careers sure arent long eh

green bay never stuck for me, seemed too boringly good and now its esier that we know rodgers is a dildo

this thread reminds me how chill the dolphins logo and colors are though so maybe i'll give them a second chance in 2022

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:43 (three years ago)

or i guess a third chance because i said i'd give them a second look in 2016, oops

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:46 (three years ago)


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