darren aronofsky's black swan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmraonoCMkI

yeah this will be a fun one

will it?

Looks like Single White Female.

just happy to see aronofsky back in "wtf is going on right now" mode

and bloodshot eyes natalie gave me the heebie jeebies

single winged female

(Single White Female + Gaslight) x Fatal Attraction?

Thought this was going to be something do with Black Swan theory. It still might, who knows?

Can't go wrong with Vincent Cassel, I guess.

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xp lol i thought that too--i was like first moneyball and now this?

I love the trailer, so creepy.

so is there something actually supernatural going on here or is nat port gonna be revealed to be lol crazy or is this gonna be one of those "crazy person is out to get protagonist but no one believes them" movies?

yeah I think that's the movie

Not supernatural, according to Aronofsky - just headfucks galore.

i suspect this is gonna be a "Crazy person is out to get crazy protagonist" movie

This is looking suitably batshit, I wanna see it.

so it's mila kunis making out with nat port? um probably gonna see this

omg all these reviews, i'm so excited!

“A perfect film that blends The Red Shoes with Antichrist, via Cronenberg.”

I keep reading comparisons to Repulsion, and I love Repulsion.

this can't be any freakier than just watching a ballet

It's Swan Lake + Showgirls.

also seeing lots of argento (esp Suspiria and Opera) in the trailer

nat's reflection turning around to look at her is the best part of this

trailer

think it's a 'one of them doesn't rly exist' movie

i thought i read that there was an actual taleb 'black swan' movie in production.

will youtube the bits with mila kunis and natalie portman kissing.

if you were to ask traders before the financial crisis whether you would have seen kunis portman makeout,
they would have said it couldn't happen, that there were breakers in place to prevent it from ever happening.

It's Swan Lake + Showgirls.

― like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Thursday, September 2, 2010 2:50 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

this line sold me tbh

but this looks kinda bleh. I feel like I've already seen the movie from just watching the trailer. glad to see natalie portman has wisely used her free time to not take acting classes.

think it's a 'one of them doesn't rly exist' movie

I noticed that Portman and Kunis characters look quite similar, at least in the trailer, so I had the same thought. But surely the "main character doesn't exist" twist has become so tired after 6th Sense and Fight Club that Aronofsky wouldn't use it?

lol philip nunez

preview looks great, but yeah, i'm worried now that y'all have incepted me with the idea that it will revolve around some lame identity/reality twist. still looks great.

Anyone else read the script? There was a version of it on the BFI website for a while.

yeeks. not gonna look at this thread again until i see it.

(which kinda stands to reason)

No spoilers before the movie is in the cinemas, please.

http://i.imgur.com/UMT1u.jpg

seeing it on friday

the movie will be in at least one cinema on that day!

I have a good feeling about this one, based on post-Venice buzz and the trailer/images out there. Unfortunately only out over here in Feb of next year, although I'm sure history mayne will be in there before us.

Via Karina Longworth:

BLACK SWAN = balletsploitation. Should be in Midnight Madness. Total trash, but so fun.

Sounds brilliant!

really psyched for this

Darren Aronofsky - the new Ken Russell?

i was kind of into this

it's a really pretentious melodramatic ballet psychodrama

but like, if you're going to make a melodramatic ballet psychodrama, i feel like you are allowed to go all-out and get as pretentious as you like. i'd rather see this kind of treatment given a ballet movie than like, a movie about Drug Addiction and Society.

pretty fun to watch. portman is wicked.

Is she necked?

no kinda wimps out on that

but like, if you're going to make a melodramatic ballet psychodrama, i feel like you are allowed to go all-out and get as pretentious as you like. i'd rather see this kind of treatment given a ballet movie than like, a movie about Drug Addiction and Society.

― snrub-n-tug (s1ocki), Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:04 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

sooo otm

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/09/15/interview_darren_aronofsky_talks_black_swan/

(there is a spoiler right at the end, but it's flagged up)

Total trash, but so fun.

grinds teeth

SPOILERS!

My take is that the director replaces her with Lily for the 2nd and 3rd acts because of her fall in the first act. Nina then stabs herself in her dressing room and the brilliant performance and adoring fans are all her dying hallucinations. After the play the rest of the group finds her (dead or nearly so). I do remember Lily being one of the dancers gathered around her at the end, but don't remember what she was wearing. Does anyone remember if she was in black swan getup?

http://www.slashfilm.com/natalie-portmans-body-double-claims-portman-5-percent-fullbody-dancing-black-swan/#more-101139

half of me totally believes that portman couldn't have so much daring grace in that final, breathtaking scene (thus i believe the woman's claim) - the other half is like.. so what? is not winning an oscar herself really disconcerting her that much?

everyone knows that any shots involving legs weren't portman, non-story

I’d argue that the idea that Portman did most of the dancing in the film was instrumental to her popularity going into the Oscar race.

retarded

Y'know, I wasn't that taken with the film. Partially because I don't like Natalie Portman very much - okay, I hate her guts, there I said it - but also partially because I had, as always, high expectations. It was a bit meh. I thought the story was a bit mediocre. :-(

Also, I would be astounded if she had done all the dance scenes. No way could she learn all those moves in a short period. Ridiculous.

She spent a year training kinda full-time...

She had ballet training earlier in her life as well, iirc. "Medicore" is an odd word to use for this though. Overwrought, maybe.

She spent a year training kinda full-time...

― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:42 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

that's basically nothing

xpost I found it mediocre because, really, it was a cliche riddled movie. An anorexic ballet dancer who clearly hates her mother, is rather frigid, until she has some naughty dreams with Kunis. No, I am sorry, I did not find this to be anything but mediocre. I adore Vincent Cassel but honestly his role was just rubbish. The more I think about it, the less I like this film. Portman was very lacklustre, in my opinion but then isn't she always? I a hesitant because I am a big A fan but then, no, this was not a good movie at all. I don't think the body double is an issue. I mean, really, if they had used Portman, it would be an affront to the real ballerinas. A year training? Please, it takes a lot of talent and training to be a ballerina.

This was totally movie of the week type shit up until the last half hour, when the promised operatic horror really flowered. The fact that we had Tchaikovsky as the soundtrack rather than the beyond redemption weak piss original score helped a lot.

everyone knows that any shots involving legs weren't portman, non-story

― ℳℴℯ　❤＼(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:21 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i mean i just assumed

but it is a story if everyone was claiming that natty porty did most of the dancing, thats dumb and lame and they deserve to be called out for being so

didnt they jus like cgi her face on an actual dancer - feel like i heard that

― ice cr?m, Sunday, December 5, 2010 2:21 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no

― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Sunday, December 5, 2010 2:25 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah p sure that did slki

― ice cr?m, Sunday, December 5, 2010 2:26 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

O SHIT

Also, I would be astounded if she had done all the dance scenes.

next thing people will be claiming that Arnold Schwarzenegger was not a real robot in Terminator.

Aronofsky weighs in:
“Here is the reality. I had my editor count shots. There are 139 dance shots in the film. 111 are Natalie Portman untouched. 28 are her dance double Sarah Lane. If you do the math that’s 80% Natalie Portman. What about duration? The shots that feature the double are wide shots and rarely play for longer than one second. There are two complicated longer dance sequences that we used face replacement. Even so, if we were judging by time over 90% would be Natalie Portman.
And to be clear Natalie did dance on pointe in pointe shoes. If you look at the final shot of the opening prologue, which lasts 85 seconds, and was danced completely by Natalie, she exits the scene on pointe. That is completely her without any digital magic. I am responding to this to put this to rest and to defend my actor. Natalie sweated long and hard to deliver a great physical and emotional performance. And I don’t want anyone to think that’s not her they are watching. It is.”
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/28/darren-aronofsky-black-swan-controversy/

its not

obv implication is that the 28 were her best scenes, for example: the actual swan dance.

wonder if how foreign natalie looks w/ the face-paint on has to do with the face replacement? just putting it out there, tho rly don't believe that something big as that would just be an oversight

btw finding out about this 'face replacement' thing, which they used to twin Armie Hammer, spoiled almost the only thing I liked about The Social Network.

jus a lil face replacement lets all be cool

btw finding out about this 'face replacement' thing, which they used to twin Armie Hammer, spoiled almost the only thing I liked about The Social Network.

Why's that? Were you more impressed when you thought it was a practical effect instead of CG?

i shudder to think if face/off were made today. you'd have to see travolta doing 100% of the castor troy parts.

best scene is when natalie portman sees herself in the mirror then shes not sure if its really herself then she smashes the mirror but then youre not sure if its real then what is real anyway then the mirror is not smashed so it wasnt real then or wasnt it, natalie portman and the girl from the 70s show are hot ballerinas

― ice cr?m, Saturday, December 4, 2010 1:43 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no j/k best scene is when they lez out

― ice cr?m, Saturday, December 4, 2010 1:44 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

this kinda sums it up for me.
we saw this wednesday and it took us a couple of beers to figure this out whereas ice cr?m had it right in december fercrisakes

crazy body double girl is on 20/20 tonight!

this film was good but not relevant enough to justify reading all 209879 of your posts abt it

i just hope that your opinions were corcucasting, if correct, and poignant, if wrong

saw this again a couple nights ago. enjoyed it the second time around, but nowhere near as much (watching it on a crappy old TV probably had a lot to do with this). still thought it was ridiculously overblown and consequently hilarious throughout, but without the first-viewing suspense, it did drag a little towards the middle. even more impressed by portman's performance than i was before, though.

i saw this on the plane last night

i have only read half this thread even though i was quite enjoying it, sooo tired. i quite enjoyed the film but had no idea it was meant to be campy until i read ilx! i mean obv it's a bit ridic and ott but i definitely didn't laugh at any point, it gets quite effectively horror-movie scary as it progresses.

few things i particularly liked: the constant body horror aspect. the way it dodged its clichés by subverting some of them (eg: no evidence to suggest lily was anything other than a perfectly normal and actually quite nice girl) (wkiw lily, totally). thought nina's need to be the "good girl" was at the heart of it all really - from the very start her casting is tainted by this when she accidentally congratulates a rival, which then seems like taunting. her need to be liked by everyone is pathological and drives her madness. though that's also why i never quite connected with her character until the real derangement set in (and she found her "evil", potentially murderous side). meta stuff there re: method acting and female roles in hollywood too. and the paranoia of artistic endeavour was pretty otm too.

rolled eyes quite hard at the lesbian scene but i don't think it was completely gratituitous.

natalie portman was great obv but i think mila kunis's performance is underrated - the effectiveness of the reality/fantasy blurring was in part due to the thin line kunis brought between the easy-going, good-hearted good-time girl that lily actually was, and the darkside temptress that nina imagined her to be,

i've never heard it called "rolling ayes" before

ah, hoisted by my own retard.

hoisted by my own retard.

noting this down for future use

lex OTM

finally watched this last night - the constant mechanical/slurping/licking noises throughout really creeped me the fuck out (i was watching it with headphones).

Saw this last week, I thought it was thoroughly stupid.

I biggest disappointment of this film is that I found it in fact not thoroughly stupid, but more than stupid enough to make up for the stuff it gets right. In some ways those are the movies that bug me the most, the ones with potential that blow it for dumb or convenient reasons.

Anyway, things that would have made this good:

1) If you're going to make a movie about someone going crazy, don't start them out crazy.

2) If you're going to make a movie about someone going crazy, you don't need to surround them with other crazy people (not mom, not Wynona)

3) She should have turned into the swan and then died. The end. None of that lame it was all in her head post-script. Leave the audience with the possibility, however implausible, that she actually turned into a fucking bird and brought down the house at the ballet.

1) If you're going to make a movie about someone going crazy, don't start them out crazy.

ILX's #1 horror flick disagrees w/ you.

Anyway, Portman didn't strike me as any more immediately crazy than the average performing-arts type.

black swan rools, ilx drools

jesus we had a 1100 post thread on this

ah, hoisted by my own retard.

― caek, Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:51 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hoisted by my own retard.

noting this down for future use

― lex pretend, Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:58 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

joek stolen by iunucci, etc on veep & not funny either time

funny in veep for the way it played out though

black swan rools, ilx drools

― lag∞n, Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

josh no offense but your suggestions are terrible

she should have turned into a bird and flied away and made the audience cry

*single bird tear*

i still think she should have totally lost her marbles at the end, in the middle of her big performance. like a full-bore screaming, crying, pants-shitting meltdown on NYC's grand stage. running around flapping her arms going "thbbbb thbbbb". that would have been something to see.

i don't get how someone who is a bit wacky going full on nuts is more boring/not as interesting than someone who is totally sane doing it.

Oh, come on, given how ridiculous this movie is, I don't think any suggestions could be terrible. Offense taken!

>:(

P.S. Turning into a bird and flying away would have been even better. Then they could have a sequel with her trying to fit into the flock as it migrates south. It could be Aronofsky's edgy adaptation of "The Ugly Duckling."

she should have turned into birdman

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/155/400x400bd/155973_look-out-its-angry-birds-and-a-black-swan-ballerina.jpg

this was decent, lex otm

"i mean obv it's a bit ridic and ott but i definitely didn't laugh at any point, it gets quite effectively horror-movie scary as it progresses."

definitely getting to the 2nd half