TS: sleeping in vs. rising early

I am incapable of rising early, hence I'm an academic. Emm...

If I sleep late I feel like crap for the whole day and never get started, so I have to rise early out of necessity, despite being a night person.

sleep late, stay up forever

sleep late, for endless amount of reasons.

I'm up early just about every day, 6:30-7. I slept until 8:30 the other day and kind of shocked myself.

Stay up late, sleep late. I'm naturally nocturnal, left to my own devices my hours of sleep are something like 3AM-11AM.

yeah ill just say theres a reason i made sure the store never opens any earlier than 10 during the week

If I sleep late I feel like crap for the whole day and never get started, so I have to rise early out of necessity, despite being a night person.

we are twins! if I sleep past 10 I just feel like a dick for the rest of the day. like even if I feel physically great, it's like my brain missed out on the part of the day where I feel quickest, and I need that. even if I stay up til 4, I'll be up by 9:30

I get up at 5:30 on weekdays and sometimes on the weekend, I don't get up till 11:00 or noon. Guess how I voted.

I used to live like the character in PSB's 'Left To My Own Devices': "I get out of bed, at half past ten". Now I have stuff I need to do.

the part of the day where I feel quickest,

I feel quickest/brightest in the early evening, but I need the warm up/run up to start at 7AM preferably, beginning with CAFFEINE CAFFEINE CAFFEINE.

(BTW it's early evening here and guess what I'm doing, posting on ILX, duh...)

sleeping in is gonna run the table here isn't it

i actually envy the peeps that feel urgghh when they wake up late, but not nearly as much as i envy the super elderly that barely have to sleep at all, which is kinda my ideal state.

Sleeping late slows me down too, but I'm a night person, so it's best for me to crash at 3/4, wake up at like 9:30, and take an afternoon power nap.

I really love to sleep but I also can't stand it if I wake up too late. I'm more into the midday nap. I usually wake up naturally around 8:30 or 9am on weekends even if I stay up super late.

xxp Would love to be able to get by on 5 hours sleep, and have tried on many occasions, but I really really need a solid 8 hours otherwise I'm wacked.

IDK, jjjusten, I thought those super elderly were hardly sleeping because they are programmed to get up and milk cows, and all the do is stare out their retirement home window mimicking the squeezing gesture of milking cows as they wait for hours for the sun to rise.

You know, that still sounds pretty good to me if it means i dont have to sleep all that much

plus it would creep out the neighbors

On the weekends, I always feel better and the day feels longer if I get up early. But I usually have to catch up on sleep and being able to sleep in is so applealing that I just can't get up before 11 or so. I'm abstaining from voting.

How about 'both?' I've probably told you all this already, but for a while, I was going to bed very early, waking up at about 3-4 AM, staying awake for an hour or two, and then going back to bed.

I think that would totally mess me up. As would this crazy scheme...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Uberman.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep#Comparison_of_sleep_patterns
Although if everyone on ILX agreed to sleep on a synchronised Uberman schedule, we could post here all the time uh wait no...

Rise early. Although by early, I probably mean more like, "Get out bed between 8.30 and 9.30, but hours before anyone else in the house will be awake, and pop out of bed with entire day mentally planned already. Start working on first project immediately."

I have energy in the AM, this is when I should shop, clean, and start projects.

I am incapable of rising early, hence I'm an academic.

^^^This is me.

Also, I find it pretty much impossible to nap, and difficult to get to sleep, so the only way I can get my fill of sleeptime is to lie in.

I am incapable of rising early, because I'm pedantic.

I don't think I've slept in past 11 am a day in my life. Even if I get home at 5 am. I'll be a zombie at 3 pm, granted.

for a while i had been rising at 5.30 so as to get to the gym before work. when I'm in the habit, it's great! it's nice to have the time in the morning to do stuff without rushing.

I get up between 5 and 5:20 every day to get to work. Most days it suits me fine. On the weekends, I might get up early or I might sleep in until 7 or so.

I am kind of torn on this because sunrise does magical things to me - between 5 and 7AM I'm creative & productive & blissfully happy - but I find it impossible to go to early enough to get up then, so I suppose it'll have to be staying up late.

I actually love being up early on Saturday mornings: the laundry room is empty, I can exercise, and the supermarket aisles are clear of old women.

i really like getting up early when i dont have to get to work - like today i woke up @ 6:30 and rode my bike to the pool and then went swimming then went for breakfast with friends, hung out, then came home listened to some new tapes i ordered. all b4 11am.

but getting up @ the same time of day for work its like... ugh... h8 u job go f yrself. i think its bcuz getting up early makes the day feel longer somehow even if its the same # of hours.

You should sleep late, man, it's much better for your constitution.

What time do you guys normally go to bed?

If I had a choice, I'd go to bed about 4am and wake about noon.

Unfortunately I have to go to bed 11/midnight or so and get up at 8am. That's about as early as I can do long term.

I like getting up early because sleeping in isn't good for you (assuming you mean sleeping like 9-10 hours in addition to waking up late), plus I don't like to waste days off.

During work, I don't have a choice, I have to be up early. on weekends, when I'm off, I am usually up by 9 am.

I like getting up early because sleeping in isn't good for you (assuming you mean sleeping like 9-10 hours in addition to waking up late), plus I don't like to waste days off.

Some people need this much sleep, though.

The earlier I awaken, the less reason I've got to stay up late, so it's lights out for me by 11-11:15 pm on weeknights and weekends (if I don't go out).

yeah i cant really remember the last ime i got over 8 hours of sleep, that just seems crazy to me.

Some people need this much sleep, though.

not an exact science, depends on the person obv., but generally 9-10 hours is considered oversleeping. here's one article:

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=health_fitness&sc=health&sc2=features&sc3=&id=102292

Recent studies have indicated that people who sleep 9-10 hours every night "were 21% more likely to become obese over a six year period" as opposed to those who sleep seven to eight hours per night.

Make what you will of that, I'm not a doctor which I'll stress repeatedly.

I feel like crap if I sleep over 8 hours. in fact I usually feel like crap if I sleep for 8. 7 for me tends to be the cutoff.

I read a fuckton of articles about a year ago, about "the right amount of sleep" and the very sexy & useful general answer was "it tends to vary from person to person."

I've made a pretty radical transformation into an early-to-bed, early-to-rise person over the past year, mostly out of necessity (working early, even on weekends) and moving in with my gf, who was already that way. In college, I was incapable of going to bed before like 1, but now I'm usually winding down by like 10:30 and can probably count on 2 hands the number of times I've stayed up past 2 this year. I think it's a healthy change, one that makes me feel more alert and productive, albeit boring. Today was my day off and I woke at 8:30, which seemed pretty late.

i never get sick. I have no official studies or research to cite, but ergo, because I never get sick, everything I do is the right thing to do and everybody who does otherwise is a savage

pretty sure I'm not in danger of becoming obese, I'll take 10 hrs every night no prob. and yeah, it varies from person to person how much you "need".

5-6 hours of sleep is perfect for me for long stretches of time (like say several months), then I usually have a crash day where I sleep like 12 hours, then back to the 5-6 hour cycle

3 hours of sleep is the WORST because it usually means I've been up until 4:30 staring at the ceiling doing nothing and dreading getting up for work

That is actually pretty interesting reading - my wife sleeps 11-12 hours a day if given the choice :(

under 6 for me=having to drink an energy drink or coffee. my body's finicky, there's a very small window in which I'm not either tired from undersleeping or groggy from oversleeping. I think the margin of error is something like 35 minutes.

San Te, the obesity/9-10 hours of sleep thing is because both of them can be symptoms of depression.

She just really likes sleeping though, it's not like it's unwilling.

right, although the article also is quick to say that oversleeping isn't always caused by a medical or psychological disorder. I know when I suffered severe depression about 11 years ago, I slept more than 10-12 hours a day (not consecutively, but cumulatively) each day so it's definitely familiar.

i used to be a sleep in kind of guy but i don't think i've been up past 2 or slept past 10 in a few months - doesn't hurt that i work at 7am most days.

waking up early is great though, so much more time to read the paper, do errands, play golf, etc

trying to remember the last time i went to sleep before 2 AM and I am drawing a blank

yea a M-F static work schedule has my body waking up involuntarily at specific times on the weekend. but I like getting up early for reasons like kevin said. definitely not a night owl anymore. if I go to a movie after 10 pm I have to drink a large soda to stay awake

or if I go to a movie directed by M. Night, Michael Bay, or Joel Schumacher

If I have to get up before 8 am, it pretty much doesn't matter how much sleep I get. I'll still feel like a sleepy mofo until after lunch. Getting up before 6 am makes me literally want to vomit. If I'm on vacation or working at my own schedule, I'll eventually end up going to bed around 2 am and getting up around 10. The best work schedule I ever had was 2 pm to 10 pm, and I really miss it. These days, I've adjusted my schedule so I can sleep in until 7, so that's cool. That also gives me an hour in the evenings after everybody goes home which is when I often end up getting more work done than I can manage all day. Part of that is lack of distraction, but part of it is a tendency to perk up in the evenings.

Oh and I'm in bed between 10 and 11 every night and I'm super tired by then, which I attribute to forcing myself to get up so freaking early all the time. Stupid 9 to 5 grind.

I go to bed around 11:30, don't have an alarm clock, start waking up around 6:30-6:45.

honestly the best part of rising early is the afternoon nap

unless I am really, totally, bone tired, I will start to wake up around 10 PM and usually am alert and active until 1 AM

waking up early is great though, so much more time to read the paper, do errands, play golf, etc

yah this is what i was trying to say before - waking up early gives me a nice sense of easing into a day, rather than waking up & immediately feeling like im behind on things

also golf is so much better in the early morning

I hate the fact that the world is set up around the schedules of morning birds. Should be a country for night owls. We'd be at the same longitude of NYC, but have the time zone of Hawaii.

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i slept late when i was a teenager, 'cause i was a teenager, duh. then sometime around uni i started to appreciate the mornings a bit more (i mean 10am kinda time, let's not get crazy). then i gots depression - partially caused by a job where i had to get up before 8am, horreur! - and slid back. would like to recapture those glory days of 10am starts but i know i'm never going to be one to appreciate dawn's rosy fingers on the regular.

sleep is for the week

unless I am really, totally, bone tired, I will start to wake up around 10 PM and usually am alert and active until 1 AM

― Trouble-Making Foods (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 August 2010 21:35 (3 days ago) Bookmark

this is not a good window. unless it's twenty seven hours.

If I sleep late I feel like crap for the whole day and never get started, so I have to rise early out of necessity, despite being a night person.

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Friday, August 20, 2010 2:23 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

otmfm, in fact I feel snoball and I are the same person given his comments on this thread.

I am so envious of the dudes who can stay up partying til like 3 or 4 AM and then sleep til like 5 or 6 PM, that means they can party as much as they want to and never feel tired whereas one night out will literally destroy me for a week

the great thing about jet lag is that for a while you wake up naturally at 5 or 6 AM and it feels kinda cool and it's nice to have done stuff and to have been productive before the sun rises and it's fucking great to look outside at the pre-dawn sky and watch the sun come up while sipping a cup of coffee

but this reminds me of my final semester in college where I got up every morning at 6 to work on my senior thesis cause I read some article claiming that all the great writers would do all their work early in the morning, and you know what, that thesis ended up being the biggest pile of shit I have ever written, so

by nature i'm a pretty nocturnal dude, but my job's kinda mucked all that up. 6:00am every day. but i actually love nights when i crash out super super early and wake up, on my day off, fully rested and before the sun. that weird static time before and just after dawn is the most peaceful and awesome time to be awake and alert.

so i'm kinda torn on this one.

i'm so horrible at getting up early. i love the ~idea~ of early mornings, but whenever i'm actually awake around dawn i feel physically awful, like anxious nausea. idk wtf is up with that. i'm sure i'd get used to it if i had to get up early long enough.

voted rise early, even tho i never, ever do it

when i do get up at like... 9 or 10 and go out and do things, by noon i feel like the day is already over

which is a good feeling, because it's not

i overslept this morning and missed the first 15 minutes of my appointment, but damn it felt good to sleep in.

the alarm clock plays a huge psychological role in how I feel in the morning. if I wake up of my own volition, even if it is earlier than I usually would, or less hours of sleep than I prefer, I usually feel pretty lively. If I wake up because I'm forced to by the alarm clock, even if I got plenty of refreshing sleep, I often feel groggy.

sleepcycles my man

i've mentioned how i hate "sleeping in" for "sleeping LATE"

also i invariably wake 5 hrs after i fall asleep

I'm up. Who's joined me?

just got up at 8:30 AM EST - for me that's sleeping in

been up since 7

I'm awake, have been for two hours, but I really really REALLY need more sleep and am going to try to get a little more

just woke up. my body wakes up a few minutes prior to 9 am like clockwork on weekends. which I'm finew ith.

Slept really late, for me - woke at 7:50.

woke up this morning, got myself a gun

woke up at 7.30 (alarm o'clock), thought 'sundayyyyyy' and went back to sleep until 11. glorious!

as an undergrad I went through a phase of getting up at 6 or before 6 every morning and kind of padding around idly for a couple of hours, listening to the radio, staring into space, making my lunch, reading - it was great but my intense love of that 1am feeling meant I started doing four-hour sleeps, which it turns out is neither sensible nor sustainable.

(in fact i did three days of four-hour sleeps followed by a day in which i crashed at 6 and woke up at 6 the next morning, which in theory averages out to enough sleep, but--)

Woke up at 13.20. I win.

I get up early, hence I'm an academic.....

Serious work only possible with a clear head early - up by 7 everyday, and usually earler. Bed by midnight, if later will need a nap mid-afternoon. If I sleep late, I feel like I've lost the day.

i spend half of the morning just trying to wake up
half the evening just trying to calm down

went to bed 4:15am

awake at 8:45

did a few chores/reading when i couldn't sleep more

slept about 11:45-1

I love getting up early after 7-8 hrs sleep, but I'm usually at work till 2-4am so that won;t be happening for a while.

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Michael Essien sleeps all night and most of the day so he is not caught napping on the pitch.

The £80,000-a-week Ghanaian says he needs 14 hours sleep a night so he is calm and full of energy for big games.

He claims it helps give him his all-action style which saw him play in a string of different positions for his club during the last football season.

"I sleep 14 hours a day. That helps me get the energy you see on the pitch.

the atkins diet + essien sleep pattern combination will catch on some day

Buncha slackers.