Marky Mark and Christian Bale and Amy Adams in David O Russell's THE FIGHTER

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/thefighter/

this looks... kinda conventional!

scared

stoked for bale's bald spot and accent though

bale looks like a junkie

i was looking forward to 'nailed'

wd like to see nrq directly address him as Marky Mark and watch what happens

i don't know why you'd wish that on marky mark?

he probably has pretty good health insurance, but dude, seriously.

seems like salt of the earth bostonians are the fucher of white ppl in hollywood, guaranteed to bring realness/craic

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT btw

this looks... kinda conventional!

new trailer makes it look … less conventional

http://incontention.com/2010/10/17/the-fighter-featured-on-mad-men/

looks decent. mickey ward.

looks dope :)

http://incontention.com/2010/11/10/afi-fest-the-fighter-crashes-the-party/

bale looks like a junkie

― sexy mfa (history mayne), Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:29 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he's playing a crack addict

im seeing this next weds yay

damn, d o r rly h8s his mum

great filmmaker tho :)

no idea why DOR made this til I read the below.

add a star if u love laughing @ Irish ppl from Massachusetts.

http://www.movieline.com/2010/01/david-o-russells-the-fighter-was-a-kooky-experience-says-melissa-leo.php

“It was hard work,” she admitted. “It was hard filmmaking. When you get such big players in there and the director is not getting final cut, and in fact one of the actors is…It was Wahlberg’s project. He’d had it for a long time. He’s very quiet — it’s not like he was manipulative and push-and-shovey — but it was complicated, hard work.”

On its face, the project might seem more conventional than the films Russell is known for (I Heart Huckabees, Three Kings), but Leo says his approach was anything but.

“I don’t know what to think about it! It’s such a kooky way of shooting a film. It’s all in O. Russell’s head, and he knows it and he’s talking to you while you’re shooting. I have some pretty specific ways in which I work, and I kept trying to work the way I work, and he was like, ‘Don’t do that!’ [The character] is probably a lot more frazzled than I meant her to be.”

Never thought about final cut going to Wahlberg. Weird! Has that happened in other movies (non-directing actor with final cut)?

Sorry if that's a dumb question :)

I've read about Edward Norton not only rewriting his films but working on his cut of the movie while the nominal director worked on his.

btw Bale in this movie reminds me of Ed Norton... NOT EDWARD Norton, but Ed Norton of The Honeymooners. On crack.

haha yeah I can see that! That skinny, Bale's all eye sockets.

I'm actually keen to see this. If they do it right it'd be a great story to see on film

they didn't.

Oh. Thumbs down, eh?

they didn't do it wrong. in a lot of ways it's not what you'd expect from david o russell, but what do we expect, exactly? i think the real outlier among his films is 'three kings'.

but he's in movie jail and made this with the weinsteins, who i think 'fucked him over' on 'flirting with disaster'.

it's like a massively mainstream studio drama, straight-down-the-line, only in an era when studios don't really make 'em, or do them badly. this is 'done well' but it's hard to be all 'effing loves it'.

the beginning of the trailer i seriously keep expecting Wahlberg to say "say hi to your mother for me," it's almost distracting. also ads for this and for the new FX show Lights Out just make me feel like it's impossible to do a story about a boxer without it seeming kind of generic and full of cliches. and it would be kind of funny if THE FIGHTER won oscars just a couple years after THE WRESTLER. maybe they can serialize it, a blandly titled award season film for every sport.

I didn't realize this was out. I think I started a thread on it last year on ILF but can't find it now. Anyway, looking forward to seeing it due to love of MW and the fact that a couple of my friends worked on it.

It's not out, enrique and I are special. Opens in the US Dec 10.

it's impossible to do a story about a boxer without it seeming kind of generic and full of cliches

ding ding ding sorta, but it doesn't help when you shoot The Big Fight at the end with HBO-style handheld video, I guess for fear of being accused of aping Scorsese if you make it at all expressionistic.

I really detested the weepy last third of Million Dollar Baby, but it had more going on than this.

(altho Russell kinda treats Wahlberg's shrewish, big-haired sisters kinda like the hillbilly relations in MDB, only for laffs)

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/12/spike-jonze-wants-ya-to-put-the-fightah-in-yo-ah-reahview

looks p good imo

jonze has obviously been reading this thread re: the trailers

Armond sorta loves it bcuz he loves Russell, of course. I thought the Bee Gees scene was one of the phoniest moments, myself.

http://www.nypress.com/article-21937-fighting-for-class.html

Oh this is out now!

so, they really have the story end with Ward winning a "championship" at the end?

There's something I find really disgusting about blatant disregard for the truth in sports movies. Actual boxing champions have a hard enough time getting recognized for their achievements, but I guess Micky has the complexion to get the connection, as Don King once said. But at least they should have found a white guy who won a real title.

Nobody cares what really happened, and I'm not enough of a fight fan to know what your objections are.

you forget about shea neary or something?

xp

Nobody cares what really happened, and I'm not enough of a fight fan to know what your objections are.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, December 11, 2010 4:03 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

Pretty sure some fighters who won real titles would care that a glorified trialhorse like Ward has a movie that celebrates his ridiculous WBU title win.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/471/758/492114_display_image.jpg?1288226916

would probably enjoy a movie about Butterbean becoming heavyweight "champ" though.

Man, Fuck Don King.

Very tired of actors getting praise for losing weight for the sake of a role.

a o scott's review nailed it imo

A dissent.

"Never thought about final cut going to Wahlberg. Weird! Has that happened in other movies (non-directing actor with final cut)?"

Yeah this happened with American History X and Ed Norton as noted above.

I thought the most natural performance was by the cop/trainer ... who played himself.

IM THE ONE FIGHTING NOT U AND NOT U AND NOT U

craparek strikes again

xposts

limited release is so lame whats the point i really shouldnt have to go all the way to lincoln sq to see this awesome movie

lol, that's a new one, people complaining films are too hard to see in their own city.

so Eklund is awaiting trial now, yes? why didnt we get a title card about that?

I thought this was OK - the best part was definitely seeing Adams break heads. Found it distracting that the two big fights were basically identical. I agree with Morbs that the Bee Gees bit was phony.

Wahlberg felt just as mannered to me as Bale, just in the opposite direction.

but the worst part was the preppy at the movie being all "the new york times said the cinematography was DELIGHTFUL"

― tickle me imo (s1ocki), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:01 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

this is OTM btw

and so is this"

btw amy adams was wicked frickin hot in this

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:40 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

otm

hahah i liked the preppy dude and the delightful comment - whatevs

melissa leo's and (to a lesser extent) christian bale's characters were so over-the-top i had trouble believing in them, even though i know it's "based on a true story." i love leo thanks to her being on homicide but she shouldn't have won the oscar for this, it was all braying in a boston accent and BIG! EMOTIONS!

Uhhh. I don't know. I watched the documentary and although the mom was only in it for a bit she was pretty much exactly like Leo's portrayal. Also, having been in and worked around Lowell I can honestly say that I don't think the stereotypes were exaggerated all that much.

Btw, Janet Maslin said no such thing about the cinematography:
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9800E2D91F3BF936A15751C0A962958260

that guy was such a poseur

I still haven't seen The King's Speech, 127 Hours or Toy Story 3 but this was my least favorite of the 7 oscar best pic noms I did see. What's the point of putting so much authentic in your Rocky XVIII if you're gonna put some obvious award-grabby hambones in the center stage (show anyone who doesn't know leo a picture of her with the daughters and i'm sure they could pick out of the line-up which one was up for an Oscar). Depressing that David O Russell and Marky are all "let's do a sequel!" now.

Actually, I don't know if Russell is gung ho about a sequel - and Wahlberg has just been foaming for a franchise for years

(show anyone who doesn't know leo a picture of her with the daughters and i'm sure they could pick out of the line-up which one was up for an Oscar)

This seems like a really silly and weird criticism to make.

What is “head, body, head, body”?

Well, I hit him in the head, and then his hand’s gonna go up to protect himself, so it opens up his body, and then when I hit him in the body, the hand goes back down, I go back up to the head, hand goes back up, hit him in the body. People who don’t know fighting think you can do a lot of damage hitting somebody in the head, but you do more hitting them in the body. So what do you think? Can I take you out?

rescreened this on the plane and it was still wicked awesome

the mom died a couple weeks ago, at least she lived to see herself caricatured Oscarstyle

http://i.imgur.com/aTLg9.jpg

you forget about shea neary or something?

― Princess TamTam, Friday, December 10, 2010 11:07 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a+

forgot about s.h.e.a.

I enjoyed this & thought that all the acting was great.

I am quite a corny kind of a guy.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/today-in-news-you-cant-walk-out-on-david-o-russell,67283/

NEWSWIRE
Today in news you can't walk out on: David O. Russell accused of groping his transgender niece

By Sean O'Neal January 6, 2012

In a story that even David O. Russell wishes were just another “David O. Russell walks out on something” report, director David O. Russell has become the unlikely center of a quasi-incestuous, inappropriate groping scandal involving his 19-year-old transgender niece—a story that most of you would probably like to walk out on yourselves, toot sweet, but hey, we’ve already come this far, so here we go. As reported by The Wrap, Russell spent last Friday working out in the gym with his adopted sister’s son, Nicholas “Nicole” Peloquin, a 19-year-old who’s currently undergoing hormone treatments in preparation for upcoming gender-reassignment surgery. And while doing some abdominal exercises, during which Russell’s hand “hovered above Peloquin’s private parts,” the discussion naturally turned to the way the hormones had increased the size of Peloquin’s breasts. Not so naturally, Russell then slipped his hand under Peloquin’s shirt to find out for himself.
In the police report, Russell says that he only did so because he was “curious about the breast enhancement,” insisting that he did it only after she gave him permission, and even then he repeatedly asked if he was making her uncomfortable. But his niece, while admitting that she never asked Russell to stop, later told her family that she did feel violated, spurring her to contact authorities. The fact that Russell made her “pinky swear” not to tell anyone probably didn’t help those feelings that something wrong had occurred—nor, honestly, does Russell’s follow-up statement to police that, since beginning her transgender transformation, he believes his niece “has become very provocative and seductive,” which is probably not something you should mention in this sort of situation, or in fact, ever. Nevertheless, Russell’s rep has stated that the director “emphatically denies any wrongdoing,” except, of course, for darkening our morning with one of the more awkward family stories since Spanking The Monkey. Anyway, there. Let’s all walk out now, together.

well :/

Trying to come up with a "Peloquin stuck in a tree" tie-in joke here and drawing a blank.

...

O_O

pinky swear

wincing over here

And while doing some abdominal exercises, during which Russell’s hand “hovered above Peloquin’s private parts,”

I mean what the hell is this

pretty sure you don't need a spotter to do Kegels

all of this is just...*shudder*

Has anyone started a thread for Silver Linings Playbook yet?

You think we'll get any Whitesnake in this one?

the ads weird me out because the lead role was sooo clearly meant for wahlberg to play. like that scene where he's freaking out about Hemingway. i dont mind b-coop but the ghost of mark wahlberg is haunting this movie

Some strong minority opinions emerging that SLP sucks, which would make a pattern.

x-post - Interesting, I hadn't thought about that before. Cooper, who I don't mind either and have sort of grown to love, was on the TV this morning talking about it and he said that Russell pursued him for the role because he's Italian-American and from Philly (which I guess are both true of the character he plays). Maybe you're right though and that was after MW said no? I'm gonna watch it next with that in mind because I can sorta see what you mean.

Anyway, I really want to see this. Ignoring you Morbs.

I watched Cooper, DeNiro and Russell on Charlie Rose last night. They spent a long time talking about getting the Philly accent right.

I saw this last night, finally. It is exactly the kind of movie my wife would never choose to watch, but my dad and his brothers did some boxing and he taught me to appreciate it, so the violence of it was nbd.

this looks... kinda conventional!

Yeah. It followed the normal sports movie story arc pretty closely. The main characters were nothing special; not badly drawn or poorly acted, just kinda conventional, fitting comfortably into the 'gritty working class' hollywood mold. The seven sisters were a bit of hoot. Amy Adams did what she could with her role, but it was not that meaty. The mom was given all the good lines.

In the end, what I liked best was that they took a lot of trouble to get the fights fairly realistically choreographed. Most boxing movies go for a lot of confused close-ups of punches being thrown, because you get a sense of the action, but it drops out the context, which is hard for actors to get right. Here the camera stayed back much of the time and showed each fights more as a televised fight might be shown. That means they couldn't just cheat and blur their way through them. Movies like Raging Bull or Million Dollar Baby and just about every boxing movie ever tend to go the other direction, keeping the narrative, but omitting the actual boxing.

Whoever trained Wahlberg and choreographed the fights did a great job. They got him at least halfway to believability as a boxer, which is a noteworthy feat.

that isn't so difficult, he has the physique and natural terrier aggressiveness of one of those arturi gatti types

also wasn't he a teenage remedial shithead etc

IM THE ONE FIGHTING NOT U AND NOT U AND NOT U

Hamlet this was not.

http://i.imgur.com/aTLg9.jpg

― nakhchivan, Sunday, 19 June 2011 13:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

DD Lewis p convincing in The Boxer, with no godawful hammy award-winning supporting performances.

One of the hammier performances I've seen in the past half decade was Daniel Day Lewis (on DVD) in There Will Be Blood. I don't blame him, though. There was little else could be done with that part as written.

that is, y'know, not the movie I'm talking about.

(but that was mostly a good hammy performance)

I watch boxing movies for character, not HBO-style fights.

also wasn't he a teenage remedial shithead etc

― there is no special cathexis with mini fried donuts (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/iXvKtai.png
http://i.imgur.com/1b1aYyN.png

good fights are a welcome detail in a boxing movie though. imo. if you like boxing. a lot of ppl don't though ymmv

xpost yeesh

At approximately 9:00 p.m. on April 8, 1988, Thanh Lam, a Vietnamese adult male who resides in Dorchester, traveled by car to 998 Dorchester Avenue, Dorchester, Massachusetts. At 998 Dorchester Avenue, Thanh Lam left his car carrying two cases of beer. As he crossed the sidewalk, Mark Wahlberg attacked Thanh Lam. Wahlberg was carrying a large wooden stick, approximately five feet long and two to three inches in diameter. Wahlberg approached Thanh Lam calling him a “Vietnam fucking shit”, then hit him over the head with the stick. Thanh Lam was knocked to the ground unconscious. The stick broke in two and was later recovered from the scene. Thanh Lam was treated overnight at Boston City Hospital.
After police arrested Wahlberg later on the night of April 8, 1988, Wahlberg was informed of his rights and returned to the scene of 988 Dorchester Avenue. In the presence of two police officers, he stated: “You don’t have to let him identify me, I’ll tell you now that’s the mother-fucker whose head I split open”, or words to that effect.

As a police officer arrived at the scene of 988 Dorchester Avenue, Wahlberg and two other youths who were with him fled up Dorchester Avenue toward Pearl Street.
Shortly after 9:00pm on April 8, 1988, Hoa Trinh, an adult Vietnamese male who resides in Dorchester, was standing several blocks away from 998 Dorchester Avenue, near the corner of Dorchester Avenue and Pearl Street. Hoa Trinh was not aware of the altercation outside of 998 Dorchester Avenue.
Wahlberg ran up to Hoa Trinh, put his arm around Hoa Trinh’s shoulder and said: “Police coming, police coming, let me hide.” After a police cruiser passed, Wahlberg punched Trinh in the eye, causing him to fall to the ground.
Police arrived and Hoa Trinh identified Wahlberg as the person who punched him. Wahlberg was placed under arrest and read his rights. Thereafter, he made numerous unsolicited racial statements about “gooks” and “slant-eyed gooks”. After being returned to 998 Dorchester Avenue, Wahlberg identified Thanh Lam as the person he hit over the head with a stick.

jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-qMqLqESQ

sequel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7LCg2VOcs

lifestyles of the tastelessly clad and accent-ridden

i want a mod to change this thread title to THE FIGHTAH