Karaoke and the "n word"

Acceptable in Oliver's Army.

pretty sure girl would have rather you fluffed it than the alternative of screaming out the n-word in a crowded bar

you lost once you picked the song, sad to say (though it's a good one)

agree with gukbe- i think it's acceptable in 'oliver's army', maybe?

the real answer is "it depends" because I rarely if ever am going to get mad at someone quoting hip-hop lyrics verbatim during their karaoke set

the real problem here is that you chose Elvis Costello

All it takes is a karaoke nerd
One more bad rhyme scheme and one less n-word.

p much feel like it's always unacceptable, basically never want to say that word even if 'in character'.

have recently been wondering about replacing n-word with 'hipster' during karaoke tho, as per some random post on ilx like 6 months ago

yeah the real problem here is Elvis Costello

What if the song contains the word "blipster".

All it takes is an itchy trigger
One more widow (or so I'd figure)

I do rap songs pretty much exclusively at karaoke.

When a white person confronts an n-word in a karoake song, these are the rules.

These also apply to words like "faggot." I've also applied this to when Jadakiss says racist things like "stack chips like Hebrews."

ACCEPTABLE:
1. Leave the space blank. Say nothing! Just like on MTV.
2. Substitute whatever is actually in the clean version ("She ain't messin with no broke, broke," etc.)
3. Use a traditionally accepted, race-neutral, agreed-upon word that usually appears in clean versions ("brothers," "men," "homies," "peeps")
4. Scratch it out like you were Rahzel.

UNACCEPTABLE
1. Saying the n-word
2. Putting in any wacky, patronizing word that actually draws more attention to it ("ninjas," "hipstas")

personally I have never understood what the fuck EC meant with the "white nigger" line anyway. Like, I can see how it would be something an American racist would call a white person that's adopted the trappings of black culture, but that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the subject matter of Oliver's Army....?

I've really soured on EC over the years.

fwiw, In the case of Oliver's Army, I would have just left the space open.

One less white [pause]

OLIVAHHHS AHMMY IS HERE TO STAYYYYAYAYAYYYYAYYAYYYY

4. Scratch it out like you were Rahzel.

lol do you really do this? I would crack up trying to do this

i tend to leave blank à la radio edits - if i do substitute the word that springs to mind most is "joker", for some reason

i say "faggot", tho! cuz i can.

(this applies 90% of the time when i'm just rapping along at home, too)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Niggers_of_America

Those rules should be laminated inside every karaoke menu, Whiney.

:)

i assume the karaoke screen blanks out or disincludes profanities and the n-word?

personally I have never understood what the fuck EC meant with the "white nigger" line anyway. Like, I can see how it would be something an American racist would call a white person that's adopted the trappings of black culture, but that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the subject matter of Oliver's Army....?

I've really soured on EC over the years.

― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:46 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

In the 70s it was common for punks like Elvis, Patti Smith, and Lester Bangs to adopt the word to represent anyone beaten-down, forgotten, mistreated or otherwise ignored by society. It was a pretty dumb thing for them to do, tbh.

4. Scratch it out like you were Rahzel.

lol do you really do this? I would crack up trying to do this

― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've def done this on the "stack chips like Hebrews" part

It's not like they made up the word. Poor Irish were being called "white niggers" back in the 19th century. I'm pretty sure that Declan MacManus was aware of that.

woman is the ninja of the world

There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
There is even a new word for black fans of indie rock: “blipster,”
“blipster”
“blipster”
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“blipster”

― am0n (am0n), Saturday, January 27, 2007

have recently been wondering about replacing n-word with 'hipster' during karaoke tho, as per some random post on ilx like 6 months ago

― camphor jars (c sharp major), Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:40 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

i assume the karaoke screen blanks out or disincludes profanities and the n-word?

― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:50 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

no!

'blipster' sounds more like someone who's into 8-bit music tbh

the real problem here is that you chose Elvis Costello

Good choice if you want your karaoke performance to be better than the original tho

xp to myself: which was shocking to me, tbh!

i saw a couple of black girls get up to do 'hypnotize' at a vfw hall that's been overrun by (not really hipster) 20-something kids on karaoke night, and there it was, the n-word, all over the lyrics screen. they were kind of laughing about it and nobody else was paying attention really. but it uh kind of caught my eye i must say.

even funnier considering the place's strict NO SWEARING policy. like if you drop an f bomb they get the hook w/o mercy.

obv this depends hugely on where your karaoke joints are getting their stuff from.

Anyway, got to learn to think on yr feet man, obv. you should have sung "One more widow, one less white blipster"

oh ugh is this "blipster" thing a thing? god help us all

hey let's add another racial element to the thread: could it be that a lot of the karaoke lyrics data comes from asia, where they might not really know what the deal is?

wouldn't that be chipster? (from chiptunes)
I've never met anyone who was into 8-bit music other than in a purely nostalgic sense.

I do rap songs pretty much exclusively at karaoke.

When a white person confronts an n-word in a karoake song, these are the rules.

These also apply to words like "faggot." I've also applied this to when Jadakiss says racist things like "stack chips like Hebrews."

ACCEPTABLE:
1. Leave the space blank. Say nothing! Just like on MTV.
2. Substitute whatever is actually in the clean version ("She ain't messin with no broke, broke," etc.)
3. Use a traditionally accepted, race-neutral, agreed-upon word that usually appears in clean versions ("brothers," "men," "homies," "peeps")
4. Scratch it out like you were Rahzel.

UNACCEPTABLE
1. Saying the n-word
2. Putting in any wacky, patronizing word that actually draws more attention to it ("ninjas," "hipstas")

― let's have a toast for the cumlords (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:45 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

GET HELP
1. Immediately

"Let me go awwwwwww-on, like a blipster in the sun"

Jackson Pollack
he was a ninja
ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja

wouldn't that be chipster?

Duh, Chinese hipster

hey let's add another racial element to the thread: could it be that a lot of the karaoke lyrics data comes from asia, where they might not really know what the deal is?

toothpaste and the "d word"

feel like the only thing to do is EMPHASIZE all horrible words and sentiments you encounter then spread yr arms out all like what you got a problem with me AM i TOO EDGY 4 U

http://www.a1reliablediscothequesandkaraoke.com/karaoke_sing.gif

or replace all of the surrounding words with horrible words and replace the horrible words with "KITTENS!"

'aggin'

Wow, y'all overthinking this. I was at karaoke last night doing some jay z and definitely said nigga once or twice, it was in the freaking song. I think you probably draw way more attention to it by coming up with some awkward substitute word. Please don't say "hipster" instead, that would be truly offensive.

Ninja ftw

Next up: the bitch conundrum.

we have threads for that already

bitch is okay because woman is the ninja of the world.

counterpoint to dan.

"And then I get the other kitten put it in the freezer
So I can always have a on-hold skeezer"

-far worse than the original.

"that little clampett was a millionaire" is a very underrated transformation.

"participate in my 69, darling"

i love where this thread has gone btw

dicks and vajays and stuff

That's the tricky part about telling the Chinese-couple joke, though, because the guy has to ask for 69 for the takeout punchline to work.

Or else the guy is rustling around in bed, wakes up is wife. "What you wan?" she says. "Um..." "What you wan?" "Um...69?" Etc., etc.

voulez-vous performer un soixante-neuf bébé

for all my ninjas and my birkas, raise your motherflubber hands in the air

i just got the chinese couple joke :/

isdgi

we have a board for this iirc

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:55 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah. you can thank me here for not posting there.

"You are 17, I am 52. Let us do the math together."

omg

Ages scientifically chosen for maximal creep factor.

obv

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Spent this weekend wishing The Grey Album were available at karaoke bars.

ban

I'll def agree with this, though. But then again these people should probably have no right even attempting a rap song that isn't like "Humpty Dance"

― let's have a toast for the cumlords (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:30 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

Can I just say, as someone who takes pride in being able to NAIL "Humpty Dance," there are a fuck of a lot of people out there who think they can do "Humpty Dance" at Karaoke and they are wrong. Ditto tons of other pop-rap smashes, including the above-mentioned "Baby Got Back," as well as "Gettin' Jiggy With It" and oh god, just dozens of things that people fuck up all over the place, no idea of the rhythm of how the song goes and it's so disappointing cause when it first starts you're like YESSSS!! and then it quickly turns to NOOOO!!! but this is part of the karaoke experience I guess.

re: thread Q - - - I have always just done the silent pass-over. It becomes sort of nutso when you get to "Brooklyn Zoo." The karaoke DJ himself, afterwards, suggested the "ninja" approach which I think is only okay if you're the sort of karaoke performer who wants people to regard you as zany and wacky. It is actually kind of funny, but I just think it would be distracting, like taking you out of the thick of the song for this joke about not saying the N-word.

rap karaoke differs from pop karaoke in that you actually kinda have to practice it first so that the opening words of each phrase are in the back of your head, or else you'll never keep up.

that and the fact that often times the words are wayyyyyyyyyyyy wrong. like I did Hip Hop Hooray once and there was a reference to bacon bits instead of monkey bits, and a whole bunch of phrases that were so wrong, I got lost.

Same thing with Mo Money Mo Problems -- I actually whip out my Blackberry and use the words from the internet now until I've screened the onscreen words first.

When Karaoke Gets The Words Wrong

Looking forward to reading about Ninja Jim on the Mississippi.

trying to think of a non-dorky way to do "Hard In Da Paint"

try blackface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1uilp7XVg

this one rather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjeEWcqYaXs

whiney, my loud apartment versions of "hard in the paint" just substitute the name of whoever's nearby, often the dog ("I go hard in the motherfucking paint, GUS, leave you stankin, GUS," etc.), so my suggestiin would be to go do karaoke with at least one person you don't know very well and then make him/her uncomfortable by getting right up in the face and being like "wtf you thankin, GREG." like, aggressively.

straight outta compton crazy mothafucka named Ice Cube
from the gang called Greg with attitude

The host from my hometown news show just became my friend on faxebook! Heart you J.

Wait, wrong thread.

i was gonna say that's one wicked weird rhyme scheme

That Greg's Crazy

Anti-Greg Machine

The fact is, you ain't Greg cuz you Black
You Greg cuz of how you act

I go hard on the motherfuckin' news, Gus
Leave you on Facebook, Gus

We were at a karaoke bar near Loon Mountain, NH a few weekends ago where we were treated to the hysterical sight of watching four white women struggle through "Country Grammar (Hot Shit)". Watching them hit the N-bomb at the end of verse one was already hilarious, but then verse two started. They were standing there staring in horror, with one of them muttering into the mic "I can't say that!" and eventually they they all just shook their heads and and had the DJ shut it down.

lol!

I think my wife would have been mad had they just tried to read the lyrics; I was laughing too hard at the whole situation to really have an opinion one way or the other

perhaps we can start substituting "yakoo"

ahahahaha

I would have just walked away from the mic resolved to pay attention to what I was selecting. In other words, probably would have behaved no differently if I somehow managed to get up in front of an n-bomb littered song.

when i did it "work it" i forgot about the kunta kinte part and just kinda didn't say anything when it came up

Have always wanted to be drunk enough to do Ice Cube's "Down For Whatever" at karaoke, but sober enough to do a radio edit.

thought this was gonna be about katy p

ha I just looked up that story and am now imagining her fleeing the club, frantically dropping N-bombs

I had to go check the country grammar lyrics, and yeah, now that story is like 5x as funny. I remember being put off by his lack of creativity in that rhyme scheme when that single first came out.

haha yeah I had completely forgotten that second verse or, rather, gotten so used to the radio edit version

basically the only worse choice they could have made would have been jigga what.

clover what? clover who?

one shot could make a clover do a full flip
hey ma how you know clovers wanna buy you

They were all "'Who say pretty boys can't be...' uh... um... 'Run in the club and bust in the crowd...' oh no... ... ... (uncomfortable muttering for the remainder of the verse while n-bombs dance across the screen) 'I'm going downtown baby...'"

I think actually it was the beginning of verse three that made them tap out, they were all "phew we're safe 'Let's show these cats to make these millions/So you-' OH COME ON"

had a moment like this w/erykah badu's bag lady in a new york karaoke bar a couple of years back. totally didn't utter the n words obvs. almost as stressful - the two minute section at the end when the screen just flashed "IMPROVISE" (i cannot really sing at all, was v v drunk though).