rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.

I'll go first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBbMbKSZrQ

I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Why's he talking about white girls?

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

blanking on her name at the moment.

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENX1Sf3fgQ

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

racist, clearly not

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

http://altreport.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/09/kings-of-leon-hires-choir-of-black-children-to-make-their-new-mp3-sound-more-soulful.html

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

Still waiting for an apology.

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Sophie Muller directed it.

OK, how about this?

http://gawker.com/5643372/this-weeks-new-yorker-cartoon-caption-contest-winner-pretty-racist

more offensive for not being funny

http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/zBOSA-500x375.jpg

that was a fake

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

strictly concern trolling in here.

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

take it to i love footy

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

barf

http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

http://hipsterhitler.com/

gawker isnt a message board

ilx is my favorite blog

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

are the finns a race?

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

zorn smash

is this chorus racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n

?

http://dasracist.net/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl69r6Z3Wtk

Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt, and David Lindley are generally beloved but in an uncharacteristic lapse in judgment put a toasty (?) section at 1:23 of "Everywhere I Go."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00fQvEHvX0

"moving my body in a regular muffin style"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCDkRpc4pns

if you're somebody who lives in the united states and eats a conventional omnivore diet, you don't get to complain about the "cruelty" of foodways that are different than what you're used to

^ opinions that could easily be worked up into a Simpson's joke. but in terms of the thread topic, imo this leans more heavily into irony than racism.

Are racists going after halal meat now? If so, the moment requires you to ask them if they’d like some lovely kosher chicken soup instead, and punt them for being caught in the act of doing a racism.

just a reddit pile-on of some thai street food vendor. as if going to chipotle or panera doesn't implicate you in some horrific shit

UK racists have been using halal as a, well not even a dogwhistle really, just another signifier of their racism

for quite some time, i meant to add

Yup. Same in France.

As a famous racist once said: Meat is Murder

prob a factor in Bardot going full fash now that I think of it

I’m in the UK and I’ve been doing the halal/kosher bait and switch to Islamophobes for a long time, because as everyone correctly says, omnivores objecting to halal butchery is a total tell.

BTW Londoners, there is a fabulously spotless halal butchers’ chain, Tariq Halal, which has amazing pre-prepared faves eg tandoori chicken and various kebabs. They’re also in the halal section in most UK supermarkets. I can’t recommend them enough.

I really enjoy the brisket chili from this place near my office called HAL & AL’S BBQ (IT’S IN THE NAME) - they really nail the spice level that I like and every purchase goes to support orphanages in the MENA region

They’ve kinda nailed the branding so your average joe won’t quite notice there’s no pulled pork on the menu

If they do lamb ribs, get them.

Blessed that Philly has a huge Muslim community and there are so many amazing halal places around

Idk if there’s an ILM thread for this but what the fuck? https://www.instagram.com/p/DRHaMd1DN1Z/?igsh=eXR5eDl5Njk3cHM2

For those without Instagram this is Xiu Xiu’s post about the artist African Imperial Wizard, who performs “Africsn martial beats” in KKK robes and heavily implies that he is a revolutionary Angolan tribesman, but shockingly is a middle-aged white man.

reminds me of the similarly fake/exploitative/offensive "african" music comp william bennett put out in the 90s: https://www.discogs.com/release/114499-Various-Extreme-Music-From-Africa

African Imperial Wizard is a middle aged white man. We had the extreme displeasure of playing with him last night not knowing who he was until he came back stage and, to our shock, took off his hood.

this sounds like a scene from Curb Your Enthusiasm

reminds me of the similarly fake/exploitative/offensive "african" music comp william bennett put out in the 90s: https://www.discogs.com/release/114499-Various-Extreme-Music-From-Africa

Thought you meant the former education secretary who said "Just Say No" on all the American videogames of the early 90s.

I'm not being ridiculous. I wouldn't put it past him!

Both former Whitehouse employees.

xpost Gotta find a way to pay off all those gambling debts

wtf

PLANO, Texas - Two North Texas men have been indicted for an alleged scheme to sail to a foreign island, murder all the men, and enslave the women and children.

The men planned and trained for nearly a year, legal documents say, in an elaborate attempt to fulfill their "rape fantasies."

The indictment:

Gavin Rivers Weisenburg, 21, of Allen, and Tanner Christopher Thomas, 20, of Argyle, have been indicted by a grand jury on counts of conspiracy to murder, maim, or kidnap in a foreign country and production of child pornography.

The charges were given for the pair's extensive plans to travel to Gonâve Island, which is part of the Republic of Haiti, to attempt a coup d'état, the documents say.

Weisenburg and Thomas prepared from August 2024 to July 2025 to execute their plans, in which they allegedly intended to buy a boat, sail to Gonâve Island, kill every man on the island, overtake it by force, and take the women and children as sex slaves.

Gonâve Island has a population of about 87,000.

The men are not lonely enough. Also CSAM being kinda hidden in the middle there is...a reporting choice. Idk everything here is so abominable that admittedly it's hard to know where to start.

Also they clearly don't know about Haiti.

I’m sorry, two guys were gonna take over an island with 87K people on it?

This is racist, awful, and very, very stupid

their 'training' probably consisted of writing the plans in a Word document titled HAITI INVASION PLANS that they saved on a public university computer

imagine being conquered by some dude named Tanner

with a name like that, he could conquer a reboot of Home Improvement

xxxp Totally. I'm struck by how this is a fantasy of despotism, mass slaughter...is "psychopathy" still a useful term? It's self-soothing fantasy, only what they find soothing is rape and genocide. It's stupid and...worse, it's...boring? So much of the world and our reality is based on white supremacy and misogyny. Also is it just me or is the line between this and being a mass shooter right here so short that it's a dot?

As part of their plan, the men had gained Haitian Creole language skills and began the process of recruiting people to prepare for the invasion. One of the men, Thomas, had joined the US air force “to acquire military skills relevant to the invasion plan”.

...

Thomas had changed his air force station to Maryland to help facilitate his plan to recruit the homeless population in the nation’s capital.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/21/texas-haiti-rape-indictment

foolproof plan

there's quite a few steps missing there

Bay of Sexist Pigs?

The men have also been charged with producing child pornography, which could land them in prison for between 15 and 30 years if convicted.

uh this paragraph seem like a textbook definition of “burying the lede”

The Independent has a photo of them, and I don't think they were raised right:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/texas-indicted-haiti-enslave-women-b2869932.html

For some reason the headline photo is Elissa Slotkin, a US senator who may or may not shortly face the death penalty. The plot puts me in mind of Billion Dollar Brain, a film that immediately makes me taste cheese.

See, when I was a kid we either had toast or cheese crackers for supper, and I remember watching the film while eating cheese crackers. I now have an indelible mental connection between the taste of cheese, and the image of soldiers drowning in a frozen lake. You'd think the plotters would have picked somewhere smaller as a trial run, such as a village in Texas or something. Or a bank. Or a petrol station. In the hands of a gifted film-maker this could be a modern Dog Day Afternoon.

I remember when I visited Greenland, I wondered if it was practical to take over the country village-by-village, as in the old video game Midwinter. Presumably you'd need to capture the main generator or water main and then use drones to watch out for anyone who tries to go for help. Except that you'd be facing a population of Inuit people who actually are armed and really do go hunting, so it would probably be a terrible idea. But, again, it could be the basis of a Die Hard knock-off. I find it hard to differentiate between reality and fantasy.

Both men were also charged with the production of child pornography.

wonder if it was AI or the real deal

I find it hard to differentiate between reality and fantasy.

wonder if it was AI or the real deal

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, November 21, 2025 2:18 PM (twelve minutes ago)

"Weisenburg and Thomas are also accused of coercing a minor to engage in sex acts on camera on Aug. 31, 2024."

DJP otm, it's v bad that this is being buried in the reporting

sadly child predators are a dime a dozen, trying to take over a Haitian island, commit mass slaughter, and establish some kind of rape colony on the other hand is not so common. just on the question of why the story is framed like it is

I will say that guys getting arrested on Child Pornography charges is an everyday thing, whereas one of them joining the military to learn the skills to lead an army of homeless people of a rape and murder spree of an entire island is News.

when I was a kid there was a kook named Col. "Mad Mike" Hoare who tried to take over the Seychelles but it was to be a mercenary island, not a rape colony
He was arrested at the airport

and he lived to be... 100

Birth name Thomas Michael Hoare
Born 17 March 1919
Calcutta, British India
Died 2 February 2020 (aged 100)
Durban, South Africa

Lord help me if I ever become blasé about child porn arrests

i'm not blasé but if it's not in my community or involving a person of prominence i don't necessarily need to know about it

I'm not trying to snark on anyone but is it common to call child sexual abuse "pornography" where you guys are?

For years yeah, but there's thankfully been a movement to rebrand it as Child Sexual Abuse Material because that's what it really is. But it hasn't fully caught on yet.

I will verbally asterisk “child porn” if a person appears not to know what “CSAM” means in f2f conversation. It’s a good language change but most people have no reason to have encountered it.

when I was a kid there was a kook named Col. "Mad Mike" Hoare who tried to take over the Seychelles but it was to be a mercenary island, not a rape colony
He was arrested at the airport

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, November 21, 2025 12:07 PM (yesterday)

when i was a kid i learned about mutiny on the bounty. i didn't learn that the pitcairn islands were basically a rape colony for a few hundred years after that.

...i think i'm going to nope out of this thread