rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.

I'll go first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBbMbKSZrQ

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Why's he talking about white girls?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENX1Sf3fgQ

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

http://altreport.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/09/kings-of-leon-hires-choir-of-black-children-to-make-their-new-mp3-sound-more-soulful.html

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

OK, how about this?

http://gawker.com/5643372/this-weeks-new-yorker-cartoon-caption-contest-winner-pretty-racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/zBOSA-500x375.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (fifteen years ago)

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (fifteen years ago)

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (fifteen years ago)

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (fifteen years ago)

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (fifteen years ago)

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (fifteen years ago)

barf

http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (fifteen years ago)

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (fifteen years ago)

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (fifteen years ago)

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (fifteen years ago)

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (fifteen years ago)

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (fifteen years ago)

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

is this chorus racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

southern Illinois is the south basically

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 May 2026 00:42 (five days ago)

it’s Pennsylvania where I was shocked to see more Confederate flags is one drive down US 40 than I saw in three years of living in Virginia

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 May 2026 00:44 (five days ago)

“in one drive”

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 May 2026 00:44 (five days ago)

Boring, I am certain that the Confederate flags in Pennsylvania, Western Maryland, and West Virginia have more to do with 1965 than 1865.

With a resurgence of "it's not racist, it's just about resistance to federal power" in 2007-2008, and of course 2016 to the present.

Of course there are also always bonkers Civil War buffs around who want more solemnity about the sacred hallowed ground of battlefields and how they should be preserved to honor those who died there blah blah blah.

I've always found it odd that Civil War dorks' chosen strategy against development encroaching on battlefields has been... having the Federal government declare it a protected landmark. You mean government intervention? You know, the thing you guys say you hate yhe rest of the time?

Buffalo buffalo Springfield buffalo (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 May 2026 01:36 (five days ago)

southern Illinois is the south basically

― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, May 24, 2026 8:42 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I grew up there until age 14 and this is true. We went to the statehouse and his tomb for 8th grade civics class, which was cool. I remember being proud that we were the Land of Lincoln.

I remember in 6th or 7th grade we went to the tiny little courthouse in Thebes, IL, a microscopic town, where Dread Scott was jailed after being recaptured. We learned what that meant on some level even if I was too young to process the whole thing.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 25 May 2026 01:36 (five days ago)

No, Decoration Day was explicitly a Union thing; it became a commemoration of all US military dead after World War II.

― wipes chooser (unperson), Sunday, May 24, 2026 3:03 PM (four hours ago)

thank you for the clarification. so much of what i know of america is myth.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 25 May 2026 02:49 (five days ago)

Are people really starting to genuinely believe that George Floyd died of a Fentanyl overdose or am I just on racist networking site Twitter too much?

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:27 (two days ago)

tbh the two are probably related

Serfin' USA (sleeve), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:33 (two days ago)

I mean… are you hearing this anywhere outside of x the everything website (or any other Nazi spots you like to visit online or irl?)

unclear apocalypse (wins), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:39 (two days ago)

It's basically gospel on the right wing.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:45 (two days ago)

But yeah it's based on the medical examiner's report which lists fentanyl in his system as a "contributing factor" to his death.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:48 (two days ago)

It reminds of like Clock Kid discourse when everyone kind of admitted later that the kid was trolling but you couldn't say anything at the time, except there's like crystal clear video of a cop kneeling on this guy's cartoid artery for eight minutes

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:50 (two days ago)

this is the first I've heard that

Another 'contributing factor' might be having a pig's knee on your neck for nine minutes

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:53 (two days ago)

^^ what WGW said ^^

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:54 (two days ago)

I really am just revolted by the whole revisionist history of George Floyd, where MAGA people imply that he was our beloved infallible hero or something because we don't want police playing judge, jury and executioner to give people death sentences in the street

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:58 (two days ago)

yes but are you seeing this revolting opinion anywhere outside of the child porn app that you’re using an amount which you describe as potentially “too much”

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Thursday, 28 May 2026 18:25 (two days ago)

You can only hear it on the 70% of America media that caters to the far right.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 18:46 (two days ago)

Like Twitter.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 28 May 2026 18:53 (two days ago)

there chuds on facebook and other social media apps who are probably saying the same thing. it's not exclusive to the "nazi app"

c u (crüt), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:01 (two days ago)

Lol, those are all Nazi apps as well.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:03 (two days ago)

I really am just revolted by the whole revisionist history of George Floyd, where MAGA people imply that he was our beloved infallible hero or something because we don't want police playing judge, jury and executioner to give people death sentences in the street


I get it, wasn’t trying to start the pointless convo again but like Andy I haven’t heard this in any normal ppl spaces & I think there was an agreement back in the day that I think it’s worth sticking to that we not bring 8chan content or whatever to this particular thread

unclear apocalypse (wins), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:21 (two days ago)

I think it is a mistake to dismiss this as “8chan content”

DJP, Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:23 (two days ago)

It’s TOTALLY white Facebook boomers and Gen X petit bourgeoisie. Anything touching on life in Minnesota gets invaded by these assholes.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:27 (two days ago)

I was aware of this due to Radley Balko debunking it in this series https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-retconning-of-george-floyd-part

rob, Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:28 (two days ago)

Not quite sure why Twitter content is off limits here? Don't racists usually say racist stuff in racist places?

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:30 (two days ago)

xp and to Whiney and DJP's point: he did so because among other people Bari Weiss, current head or w/e of CBS News, was promoting it

rob, Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:31 (two days ago)

Yes and we could repost endless racist content from those racist places in the “is this racist” thread, 24/7, the arg used to run that this was not valuable to do

unclear apocalypse (wins), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:33 (two days ago)

ok but the Floyd stuff has broken containment from the hardcore racists

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:36 (two days ago)

yeah, it started in the sewers, now it’s among putative “sensible” people

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:37 (two days ago)

Yeah again I’m just clarifying that was what I/we were asking!

unclear apocalypse (wins), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:38 (two days ago)

Twitter may be a “Nazi app” but it’s one just about every member of the US govt uses.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:38 (two days ago)

It’s TOTALLY white Facebook boomers and Gen X petit bourgeoisie.

otm it's standard comment section content. And anyway there's barely any difference any more between 8chan content and the edgier end of the right-wing mainstream in this country, obviously including the Trump administration.

Of course we don't need to ask "is this racist?" about any of it. But it's pervasive and vile.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:39 (two days ago)

I mean, my OG post is less about specific racist content and more about my general fatigue at seeing constant racist content on Twitter, none of it lining up with how I see the world, and wondering just how many people believe in this shit and if its on the rise

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 May 2026 19:39 (two days ago)

I think two things, it IS on the rise in general, and also it was always more pervasive than a lot of people let themselves believe because public racism was to a significant degree tamped down for decades. People feel less constrained now, and they have more ways and places to be racist in public.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:03 (two days ago)

otm

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:04 (two days ago)

People feel less constrained now, and they have more ways and places to be racist in public.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, May 28, 2026 3:03 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

trump's core appeal really

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:04 (two days ago)

they have more ways and places to be racist in public

yeah there's a whole cottage industry now of filming/sharing yourself saying really racist things in public, i.e. Chud the Bozo

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:13 (two days ago)

Also when I said "than a lot of people let themselves believe," I meant mostly a lot of white people, obviously. Black and brown people in the U.S. haven't had that luxury.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:26 (two days ago)

Oh there are definitely Black people in that bubble, usually they are powerfully/famous enough to believe they are The Special One that gets a pass

DJP, Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:28 (two days ago)

At any rate I was less reacting to whether it’s a good idea to post this type of thing to this thread and more to the macro point that this stuff is dismissible as crank fringe nonsense/trolling. It’s very much mainstream life and has been for longer than any of us wants to admit.

DJP, Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:30 (two days ago)

>> Twitter may be a “Nazi app” but it’s one just about every member of the US govt uses.

What do you mean “but”? I think you mean “so”.

wipes chooser (unperson), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:35 (two days ago)

xxpost Yeah, Kanye spread the George Floyd fentanyl story.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:47 (two days ago)

xpost That's why AOC and Mamdani are on there, sure.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 May 2026 20:48 (two days ago)

I mean, my OG post is less about specific racist content and more about my general fatigue at seeing constant racist content on Twitter, none of it lining up with how I see the world, and wondering just how many people believe in this shit and if its on the rise

― EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, May 28, 2026 12:39 PM (yesterday)

30% of america, and yes, it's on the rise, particularly as people who have no patience for racism continue to walk away from outlets that promote racism

agree with DJP that it's important to talk about this sort of thing. i think it's also important _how_ we talk about it? "whiney why are you still on twitter" is a reasonable response, on a personal level, and _what_ whiney is talking about is worthy of acknowledging.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 29 May 2026 14:08 (yesterday)

xpost That's why AOC and Mamdani are on there, sure.

― The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Thursday, May 28, 2026 1:48 PM (yesterday)

they're prominent elected politicians living in a political system dominated and run by fascists. leftist politics is a process of constant negotiation with a racist, oppressive system. in the case of both AOC and Mamdani they have chosen to work within the american political system (a decision i strongly support), which in turn _strongly suggests_ certain compromises.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 29 May 2026 14:14 (yesterday)

They use it as a means of communication to supporters (a lot of whom never jumped to BS), dissemination of info to reporters (who are largely still on twitter) and trolling of Republicans (who are all there.) The ilx claims of "Nazi app" are ahistorical to a lot of the ways it has been used even after Elon bought it.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Friday, 29 May 2026 14:18 (yesterday)

But ilx is a smug place.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Friday, 29 May 2026 14:18 (yesterday)

New board description

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 29 May 2026 15:14 (yesterday)

ILX is a snug place

Tom D, focussed with getting on with the job (Tom D.), Friday, 29 May 2026 15:29 (yesterday)

twitter is not just a nazi app
there is also cope

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 29 May 2026 20:34 (yesterday)


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