Nu Film 2010 is Fucking Terrible

Jesus

jonathan ross was fairly shit too

Compared to this cabbage he was James fucking Agee.

i remember jross reviewing 'eureka' but the last few times i saw it there was scarcely a mention of anything like that

I was only moaning to myself until the 12-year old blogger came on and then I lost my shit.

The main critic is fantastically bad tho tbf.

danny leigh is a nobber

missed this

who could have foreseen this tragedy

The element of surprise was in the degree of terribleness to which it...what's the opposite of "aspired"?

i'm guessing aspired is right in this case

WHAT DO U GUYS THINK

how long til tv gets rid of all content and just they just have my own tweets that i haven't thought of yet

apparently the blogger on this is the guy who has 'tweet this motherfucker' next to every item on his blog? fuck that guy.

HE WAS 12 FUCKING YEARS OLD.

I think that one guy from Consolevania might've been on there too? My advice wd be to start running and not look back ever.

mnstrm 'film nerds' eh

Understand that I don't give a shit about Film Whatever, but I was watching by accident and couldn't believe just how fucked up the Beeb had made this bog-standard format, and how much somebody on high must really really hate Kermode.

and how much somebody on high must really really hate Kermode

yeah my impression is that within the ranks of pro critics this is seen as a headscratcher

my guess is that kermode is probably held part-accountable for the 'culture show' debacle

http://www.ultraculture.co.uk/

this is the kind of thing dim middle-youth commissioning editors think is cool innit

"ultraculture isn't cool. you known what's cool? ilxor.com/ilx."

Can we lay the ultimate blame for these guys at the door of Empire or something? Honestly don't care about a high/low culture debate but cannot abide a lack of even minimal critical rigour or the horrible aggro fanboyishness of all this shit.

That Danny Leigh spent the first 3 minutes of his Social Network review speaking his brains about an imaginary bollocks version of the Internet in his head before he even mentioned what he thought the fucking film was like.

kermode isn't rly all that tho....kinda fits w/ the valourization of popkult ephemera, 'cult' nonsense, 70s hwood as the apex of cinema

Kermode is far from my favourite guy but underneath his comedy goth stylings he usually at least attempts to engage with the film as a film.

valourization of popkult ephemera, 'cult' nonsense, 70s hwood as the apex of cinema

Doesn't ring true of Kermode's radio reviews at all, for me.

Honestly don't care about a high/low culture debate but cannot abide a lack of even minimal critical rigour or the horrible aggro fanboyishness of all this shit.

yeah exactly

ppl who 'are obsessed w/ film' but don't rly like anything that an annoying thirteen year old boy wouldn't like

never heard kerm on the wireless

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lol as father of an annoying thirteen year old boy who's really into movies this is v. true

im powerskimming the show, basically i don't give a shit

it's like having a review read to you, kinda, only they're making out it's by two people?

some1 texted in saying how 'the social network' isn't about facebook -- which is true enough, but the whole point of tweets in shows is that they come from regular folks right? regular folks haven't seen it

hell of a lot of it is the same epk/junket stuff you'll get everywhere, including (most importantly) on the web

http://www.ultraculture.co.uk/

this is the kind of thing dim middle-youth commissioning editors think is cool innit

This is pretty good for a 12 year-old. This is by the 12 year-old, right?

there were 'regular folk' previews of the social network on sunday (i know, i went to one of them)

not a huge kermode fan, but gimme valourization of popkult ephemera, 'cult' nonsense, 70s hwood as the apex of cinema over bazza norman any day

I think there's a place for both but the place for the former probably isn't on the Beeb's flagship movie review show.

https://twitter.com/#!/ultraculture <-great minds think alike

don't like this lame three-way division into empire bro, overrated broadsheet gal, and blogger

the reviewers have been hating on the actors they interviewed at the lff, but i thought they were quite sweet by comparison

The old school stuff like that was unobjectionable - that's part of covering the beat. Maybe the problem is something to do with the diff between "opinions" and a review.

film dudes suck anyway, possibly even worse than music dudes

tbrr i've never watched film ____, not under norman or ross

what i've seen of the new thing wasn't worse than anything i've seen before

it's just that all bbc arts coverage is a bit trivializing. they seem to be able to 'do' history programmes pretty well. but with movies they're really afraid of doing anything in depth. with sports tv it's accepted that people who aren't interested won't be interested, but because most people 'like' films even if they don't watch very many, film shows have to cater for 'most people'.

http://www.readplatform.com/10-crap-film-critics-and-why-theyre-so-crap/

lol as father of an annoying thirteen year old boy who's really into movies this is v. true

― Ain't Too Proud to Neg (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:52 (1 hour ago)

ha, i think we've all been there

however if yr proudly wearing trainers w/ star wars decals at 35 it becomes a problem

not a huge kermode fan, but gimme valourization of popkult ephemera, 'cult' nonsense, 70s hwood as the apex of cinema over bazza norman any day

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:14 (1 hour ago)

there's good stuff within those categories obv but not so much the stuff kermode likes (and not srsly expecting a j hoberman type to be given a bbc1 show)

can only vaguely remember barry norman...was probably totes mor but i'm guessing better than ross + nu version

barry norman was terrible, from what i can remember

just flaming awful

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ha that's not supposed to happen, try this

lol, skimmed it, but at the close of 1989 he ventures the little-known tom cruise from the festival crowd faves 'rain man' and 'top gun' as one to watch over the coming decade

really dug deep, dunno if winkleman could complete with that kind of knowledge

Norman was glib and MOR and etc but jeez at least he was a functional film critic.

man has balls to appear on tv in that cardigan tbf

man i used to love me some barry norman era FILM show. that is a horrid xmas tree mind.

Got to say in its current incarnation this is more watchable than the Ross and Norman days.

Winkleman is no critic but she makes her lack of strength in her own judgments work by allowing others to get on with reviewing/talk and is simply content to moderate and not come down too strongly on what she think might be...e.g. a bit too 'slow' when she does watch and offer an opinion.

Kermode otoh has these awful blokey opinions, knows what he likes and would offer few surprises, and its not like he's short of opportunities to geek out elsewhere anyway.