Chuck Palahniuk

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I'm reading "Survivor" at the moment. What do you think of his writing?

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The male equiv. of shopping and fucking novels -- eating, fighting, and sleeping.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm reading "Fight Club" right now. Also read "Invisible Monsters". Like him. It's entertaining but doesn't make me feel brain-dead reading it.

Sean, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

very boring. some-1 put testeroseterone in his coffee. makes norman mailer look like june austen.

junichiro, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Once (Fight Club) would have been enough. Survivor bored me slightly. I expect the third one to put me to sleep...

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought 'Invisible Monsters' was OK.

DG, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OK isn't good enough. I want quality. I am reading Dennis Cooper's Closer at the moment. It's okay.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Only read Survivor, it started out pretty good, but in the end it didn't impress me. Some flashes of fun though like announcing the result of the Superbowl at half-time and then almost getting lynched (something like that I think). But all this talk of him being the New Ballard is absolute bollocks.

Omar, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm reading Choke at the moment and I'm enjoying it tremendously, but this man seems to have some very odd ideas..

cabbage, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like Survivor, so far. I'm nearly finished it. It's very over-the- top but I like the black as coal humour.

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

fantastic stuff - a lot more theoretically intersting than most people think, especially in terms of post-post modern reinvention of identities, influence of media on selves etc.

Geoff, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
Revive because I just read _Lullaby_ and it was fantastic through and through.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my coworkers just checked it out. I liked the back cover.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

They spray-painted ads for his new book on the sidewalks of the East Village, and for that, he must pay.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i dint like lullaby. seemed like it was written as: "make a film of me!" kind of in shorthand. didn't carry too much drama. didn't scare me. maybe i missed the point?

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

See, gaz just described the problem I have with Everything Palahniuk except Lullaby (I actually like his other stuff, I just can't read more than one book in a row is all; and that's why). Lullaby seems more like the book he wrote when he realized he doesn't need film options to survive.

(Since major aspects of it are essentially unfilmable, for starters.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

ha! i'm definitely not reading the others then...am i?

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It's hard to say if you should or not :) If you liked Fight Club the movie enough, reading the book is interesting if only because so much of the dialogue is carried over exactly ... but in different mouths. Which is kind of neat, really.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The one before Lullaby was a waste of time.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure I remember the order ... Choke? Or Invisible Monsters (the one I haven't read)?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh, his mother was in a mental hospital/old-age home, he worked in a Revolutionary War village. Choke, I think.

I liked Survivor a great deal, though. But Choke put me off trying anything else.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Choke. It was ... well, here's the thing about the pre-Lullaby books as I see them (barring Invisible Monsters, but I'd bet it isn't an exception). Any of them is a perfectly good first introduction to his voice and his characters. The problem after that point is the same thing I hear people complain about re: Murakami -- the books are all the same. Same voice, same characters. Neither is very interesting in of itself (this isn't even a criticism, really, because that's true of most books; otherwise we'd be happy reading character sheets from Updike's D&D games). So if the book has something else that grabs you for whatever reason -- I love the framing device of Survivor, with the black box (not a spoiler for anyone curious), and the twist ending dealie of Fight Club -- then it's okay. Otherwise ... eh.

I don't remember much of Choke, which probably means I had the eh reaction.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Invisible Monsters is a classic. 'On the road' for a skin deep trans-gendered, chemical generation. Beautiful.
Diary came out in the UK yesterday, I'm nervous for it spoiling my Chuck love.

Simeon (Simeon), Friday, 5 September 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually thought Choke the best of the bunch, but hell, whaddoIknow ?

Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

My wife just finished _Lullaby_ last night. We both agreed that it was fantastic, although it was a little wierder/more surreal than the stuff she usually reads. (Think Wally Lamb.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

I'm reading Survivor and a colleague just asked me what it was about:

"A guy survives a weird Christian child slavery suicide cult and goes on to become a huge steroid addicted televangelist before being wanted for mass murder and hijacking a plane to crash into the s..."
"Not my kind of thing then."

I think she thinks I'm a bit weird.

onimo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Anybody read Rant?

Kerm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

oh i'm rereading survivor right now! i read invisible monsters on my plane trip on friday. i like it a lot but never really found the ending of it very satisfying. it kind of just bludgeons you with "twists" doesn't it?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, so weird! I just started reading Survivor again, too!

marianna lcl, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

I think I should get Survivor so that people start thinking I'm cool.

(Actually if I loved Lullaby, which one would be best to read next?)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

I've been trying to read Rant for the last few months and I just cannot get through it. It's just a miserable fucking book through and through. I don't know how else to describe it. It's just really dreary.

I've been a fan of his other work, and this is the first one that I may not be able to finish. I liked Survivor, Choke, and Lullaby. I never read Fight Club.

rockapads, Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

Which one is partially set in a re-enactment village?

milo z, Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:55 (eighteen years ago)

Choke

Kerm, Thursday, 6 September 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

i checked the new one out of the library with really low expectations and somehow so far its easily FAR WORSE than i could have imagined

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

That's the sex one, right? I read the description and basically went "ya do not want"/

HI DERE, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

dnw is the correct reaction it is horrendous & all copies shd be purged from the earth

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

I think of Fight Club as "the sex one"

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

MEMO TO CHUCK PALAHNIUK:

This plot idea is good:
A man discovers a poem that can kill people and has to chase down a psychopath into whose hands it has fallen while resisting constant temptation to use it himself on everyday irritants.

This plot idea is NOT GOOD AT ALL:
200 guys gangbang to death a woman attempting to break a world record and talk about their experiences.

HI DERE, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:20 (seventeen years ago)

This shit is some pretty brutal self-parody.

en i see kay, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

This plot idea is NOT GOOD AT ALL:
200 guys gangbang to death a woman attempting to break a world record and talk about their experiences.

kinda want to read this now, because HOLY SHIT WTF

milo z, Thursday, 3 July 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

This plot idea is good:
A man discovers a poem that can kill people and has to chase down a psychopath into whose hands it has fallen while resisting constant temptation to use it himself on everyday irritants.

dan did you just invent this cause i kinda wanna read it now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 July 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

this guy was always terrible

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 July 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)

Like Donnie Darko, Fight Club found me at the right time (17 and angry and living in the suburbs). I liked it. My copy is signed.

I'll probably never read anything else he's written though.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 July 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Couldn't find any other thread, has nobody mentioned anything about the Choke movie released next month.

Initial screening reviews seem pretty positive

Ste, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

Like Donnie Darko, Fight Club found me at the right time (17 and angry and living in the suburbs). I liked it. My copy is signed.

I'll probably never read anything else he's written though.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, me too. i read it a few months before the movie came out, in my senior year of HS. just skimming his other stuff drove home how samey he is. still, might give survivor and lullaby a crack, just as easy diversions from school.

gbx, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:25 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

The Choke movie is even worse than the book deserves, and I didn't even get any promo anal beads:

http://gothamist.com/2008/08/29/post_124.php

Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

dan did you just invent this cause i kinda wanna read it now

That's the plot to Lullaby, aka "the only Palahniuk I've read".

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 26 September 2008 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

I dislike this person's work / influence on the world fairly intensely.

nabisco, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

The only way I can even slightly temper that opinion is to point out that part of my sense of Palahniuk actually comes from dudes in writing workshops who very much want to write like Palahniuk. But no -- that fact might actually make me dislike Palahniuk less than I otherwise would, because at least he has something to his writing that those dudes do not.

nabisco, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

dick lit. I can't stand this stuff. College Palahniuk wannabes are sooooo unbearable, too.

BigLurks, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

yes, his influence is worse than his work. Like Led Zeppelin.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

Unreadable.

Alex in SF, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

That his acolytes are apparently worse matters not one bit to me (I don't hang around creative writing workshops for good reasons.)

Alex in SF, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

My point was that even after a great deal of time around the awful influence, I still can't muster up anything but dislike for the real thing.

Not a complicated point: if you spent a year listening to shitty Zeppelin cover bands and then went and listened to Zeppelin, you'd think part of you would go "okay, well, at least there's something to it when they do it"

nabisco, Friday, 26 September 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

But don't let following a point get in the way of a good cynic's zing, or anything

nabisco, Friday, 26 September 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

So, what did you guys read that made you hate him so much? I didn't get that vibe off of Lullaby at all.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 26 September 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

four weeks pass...

When thinking about Mr. Palahniuk it must be borne in mind that Mickey Spillane was a highly successful and widely-read author.

Aimless, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

six years pass...

Need further proof that this guy is in fact The Worst?

http://www.out.com/popnography/2015/2/25/fight-club-author-chuck-palahniuk-picks-ten-greatest-movies-ever-made

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Friday, 27 February 2015 14:31 (eleven years ago)


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