T/S: Forrest Gump vs. Zelig

Zelig

duh

yeah, gump easy

In a weird way, a third film for inclusion: Mayor of the Sunset Strip, the Rodney Bigenheimer documentary...I'm not a lover of Zelig, but it is impressive, and a lot of Forest Gump drove me up the wall (primarily how it wasted a lot of great music; parts of the Forest-Jenny romance I liked).

Bingenheimer.

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Zelig all the way, cuz I've never seen Forrest Gump.

I don't even know what Zelig is and I'll rep for it over fucking Forrest Gump.

no room for being there?

Forrest Gump has some good points. Seriously.

have you guys been to the theme restaurant based on gump? omg it's so awesome

bubba gumps shrimp boat or w/e?

lol

http://www.bubbagump.com/menus/

No, I know it exists. There's one in Times Square. So weird.

Saw Zelig in a theater and it left me pretty cold. Gump, otoh, is modestly amusing. I liked the bit about Gump's cross-continental running. Tbh, I can actually recall many bits from Gump, while Zelig is just a forgotten blur.

btw I love Zelig.

there's a bubba gumps at the most popular tourist destination in hk, it's kind of bizarre esp for tourists from america, like "okay you've just crossed 3000 miles to be here, we'll welcome you by serving you cheesy shrimp baked in vats of cheese, served with appletinis that come in a bucket"

haha, oh my goodness

hoping there'll be a rodney bingenheimer-themed donut shop in tokyo within the next few years...

http://www.bubbagump.com/assets/home-primary-hong-kong.jpg

looking at the menu now, I'm disappointed they don't actually serve a cocktail called the "rum forrest rum"

I'm glad they display at least some cultural sensitivity by having the decency to include the "Yin Yang Shrimp Salad"

oh gosh.

can't really fault them, though. i mean, kids love it

i would eat all these bubba shrimp. yum. nowhere near me though.

i love zelig too. its so funny. i remember seeing that when it came out and everyone in the theatre laughing and laughing.

fuck it, i'll rep for gump. idgaf. its really funny, has some great comic performances, and yeah it nails the Forrest-Jenny romance. the part at the end when hes meetin his kid for the first time and shes like 'hes really smart' and you can tell hes gettin choked up and then im gettin choked up cuz im a shithead - that scene is like 'damn'

which isnt to say that its an unproblematic masterpiece and i totes understand why it rubs ppl the wrong way, but there's a lot of good stuff in there and imo u have to give it credit for being so memorable and well executed

zelig owns too but i dont remember it really being funny

Zelig is one of Woody's 3 or 4 best films, and the best 'mockumentary' of all time.

There are no words for how much I hate Forrest fucking Gump. Mostly because when it came out there was this explosion of OH HURRAY OUR NATIVE SON WINSTON GROOM HAS HIT THE BIG TIME, LOCAL AUTHOR Y'ALL bullshit, but for so, so many other reasons.

It doesn't help that a) I read the book and it was just terrible, and b) whenever a teacher was out sick and they couldn't get a substitute on time either it or Rudy was the go-to tape to keep the kids quiet.

(go on, guess how I feel about Rudy)

fuck it, i'll rep for gump. idgaf. its really funny, has some great comic performances, and yeah it nails the Forrest-Jenny romance. the part at the end when hes meetin his kid for the first time and shes like 'hes really smart' and you can tell hes gettin choked up and then im gettin choked up cuz im a shithead - that scene is like 'damn'

otm. when he takes his kid to take the school bus for the first time, and then the camera zooms out and you realize he's just gonna wait there til the bus comes back? even though it'll be the whole day?

hah Rudy
It was Rudy or Hoosiers for us
or October Sky if it was a science class (which, October Sky is a movie I fucking love)

I especially love how Robin Wright Penn becomes the scapegoat for the sins of the sixties – she even gets AIDS and dies like the slattern she is.

xpost abbbbs my favorite part about october sky is that its title is an anagram of the title of the book it was based on (rocket boys). tho i have never seen it.

Seeing the young Jake Gyllenhaal on the October Sky promo poster made me go, "Whoa..."

Saw Zelig for the first time recently. I thought it was amazing! I never saw Forrest Gump. Descriptions of the plot always made it sound blatantly derivative of Being There.

zelig is so, so, so great

seriously if you only have half-memories of it and the stock footage stuff, see it again. it really holds up.

i despise gump tbh

i kinda blame gump for gary sinise. not like i hate him, but before gump he was kind of a nobody in popular culture (i don't follow theatre-world) and after gump i feel like i've had to see his face forever everywhere. i think i saw him in that malkovich of mice and men. and jack the bear too. (jack the bear was one of my favorite books when i was a kid. loved that book so much.)

i guess what i'm saying is that i don't need a ton of sinise in my life. and gump made him a star.

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plus, him and hanks are both the big war guy actors. always going on about war all the time. i'm not big on war stuff.

every once in a while i'll see someone and think: they must be really scary to have sex with.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/GarySiniseOct09.jpg

of course, some people are into scary, so, you know, whatever floats your boat.

He's shaped like a boat now – not sure if he floats.

plus, gotta say: woody allen is one of my fave directors of all time. zemeckis one of my least favorite. (i did like contact though! and i remember liking used cars and i wanna hold your hand but haven't seen them in years. hate back to the future series. don't even really like roger rabbit or romancing the stone. the polar express was one of the worst movies i've seen in decades.)

only saw gump the one time, and i was a kid, but i still remember it making my skin crawl

role of Jenny is, like, my most-hated movie archetype

every once in a while i'll see someone and think: they must be really scary to have sex with

I lold.

plus, gotta say: woody allen is one of my fave directors of all time. zemeckis one of my least favorite. (i did like contact though! and i remember liking used cars and i wanna hold your hand but haven't seen them in years. hate back to the future series. don't even really like roger rabbit or romancing the stone. the polar express was one of the worst movies i've seen in decades.)

― scott seward, Monday, December 13, 2010 11:06 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

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i saw that too

wtf

Gary Sinise is such an amazing actor. He has no legs!

like I just couldn't believe that an actor would actually CHOP OFF HIS LEGS for a role. that's dedication.

i was really proud of myself as a little kid when i went to see forrest gump and i knew jenny had aids, like i thought it was like figuring out the sixth sense twenty minutes in. walking out you wonder how many of these grownups are thinking, that was a pretty good movie but i'm totally confused as to what kind of mysterious unknown witchcraft disease killed jenny? probably pretty much all of them. but not me - i read the editorial cartoons and memorable quotes page in newsweek.

role of Jenny is, like, my most-hated movie archetype

― horseshoe, Monday, December 13, 2010 4:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I'm still of the theory that Jenny gave Forrest Teh AIDS.

the part at the end when hes meetin his kid for the first time and shes like 'hes really smart' and you can tell hes gettin choked up and then im gettin choked up cuz im a shithead - that scene is like 'damn'

I was just talking about this on fb. They aired it on A&E last night and I watched the whole thing, and that part gets me every fucking time.

Zelig is...eh.

Haven't seen Zelig yet. I plan on doing so today!

Zelig is...eh.

Let me walk that back. Zelig is too reliant on its concept and I'm done long before it is.

saw zelig for the first time recently, it was okay, i am not the hugest woody allen fan in the world tho.
think it's time to re-watch gump, i bet there is a lot i've forgotten. i mostly just remember... ping pong, vietnam, running, shrimp.

I dont generally think of myself as a Gump hater, though I havent seen it since it was new/I was a teenager. Really should watch it again to see if it really is as conservative as some critics say, or if it just had the misfortune of being a film that conservatives widely embraced.

Either way, though, Zelig for sure.

I never saw Forrest Gump. Descriptions of the plot always made it sound blatantly derivative of Being There.

It's not. However, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button is just a downer version of Forrest Gump with very few redeeming qualities (if any).

Zelig is 70 minutes too long.

FG is 115 minutes too long.

Zelig wins.

Benjamin Button is pretty awful.

i'll never understand the adoration zelig gets

amusing concept stretched way too long + a flimsy emotional core, not that funny

gump is still a movie i keep on in the background once a year when it pops up and i'm doing other stuff

but yes the important thing to remember is that benjamin button was a travesty

I could never understand why Jenny gets AIDS. Wasn't being a hippy and libertine enough?

With all the other cultural touchstones addressed in Forrest Gump, it only makes sense that someone had to get AIDS.

With all the other cultural touchstones addressed in Forrest Gump, it only makes sense that someone had to get AIDS.

the seventies, that is

Everytime that green Mello Yello can falls out of Gump's shrimp net, I'm like Christopher Reeve seeing the 1980 penny in Somewhere in Time.

Forrest Gump is superior because of its use of computer graphics. However, since technology has advanced, both films are obsolete and must be destroyed.

agreed

The Forrest Gump book is bonkers. I read it as a kid. He goes to outer space and crash lands on a cannibal island and everything.

Everytime that green Mello Yello can falls out of Gump's shrimp net, I'm like Christopher Reeve seeing the 1980 penny in Somewhere in Time.

― pplains, Sunday, July 8, 2012 2:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

haha

I dont generally think of myself as a Gump hater, though I havent seen it since it was new/I was a teenager. Really should watch it again to see if it really is as conservative as some critics say, or if it just had the misfortune of being a film that conservatives widely embraced.

Either way, though, Zelig for sure.

― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, July 8, 2012 2:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i think it was intended to be an apolitical satire; thats not what it ended up being tho

god i love zelig

a mediocre and cowardly bullfighter

then he backed up over my mother's wrist. she's elderly, and uses her wrist a lot.

Everytime that green Mello Yello can falls out of Gump's shrimp net, I'm like Christopher Reeve seeing the 1980 penny in Somewhere in Time.

― pplains, Sunday, July 8, 2012 2:50 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

this still cracks me up

soundtrack to forrest gump is solid

So, apparently there's an Indian remake of "Forrest Gump:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tg5BLRmTcg