Films that are purposefully aimless in a vaguely hippieish sort of way (especially from the 1970s)

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Watched Rockers tonight, and realized it actually reminded me of a couple of late 60s/early 70s Israeli films I've seen that feature Arik Einstein (like Horsemouth, a musician). Nearly plotless, lots of meandering about a warm weather city on a beach, intermittent recording sessions, etc. What other films fit this genre, and was it a world trend at the time, and if so where did it originate?

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Saturday, 25 December 2010 05:34 (fifteen years ago)

Two-Lane Blacktop rules

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Saturday, 25 December 2010 06:06 (fifteen years ago)

The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie?

mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 December 2010 07:09 (fifteen years ago)

Absolutely everything from Godard?

2 or 3 Things I Know About Her, I think, came out in the period.

We attack the mayor with hummus (kelpolaris), Saturday, 25 December 2010 07:59 (fifteen years ago)

Er, sorry just checked - '67. DISREGARD MY EXISTENCE.

We attack the mayor with hummus (kelpolaris), Saturday, 25 December 2010 07:59 (fifteen years ago)

yeah maybe it's partly the influence of godard.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Saturday, 25 December 2010 08:00 (fifteen years ago)

My brain keeps wanting to filter "Hipsterish" over "Hippieish". What would qualify as hipster in the 1970s?

Edward Cullen dumped me and I stumbled in the woods (MintIce), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

Chantal Ackerman's Je tu il elle probably fits. Very aimless, sorta stoned & grimy character study.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 December 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)

mazursky's blume in love & alex in wonderland

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 December 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)

does Picnic at Hanging Rock count?

real Gs move in sleds, like toboggan (Pillbox), Monday, 27 December 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

Robert Downey's "Greaser's Palace"
Jodorowsky "El Topo"

sarahel, Monday, 27 December 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

I just watched Picnic at Hanging Rock yesterday!

And no, I don't think it counts. It may be dreamy and meandering and have an unresolved ending but there's a mystery narrative that controls all the action.

gr8080, Monday, 27 December 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

Jerry Schatzberg's Scarecrow is about as '70s and as aimless as it gets, even though neither lead character (Pacino and Hackman) is actually a hippie. It's a film I like, but someone else might consider it emblematic of everything that was self-indulgent about American film in the first half of the decade. Cisco Pike's a good one too, and Kristofferson does play a hippieish character in that.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

five easy pieces? maybe has too much storyline

once more Jagger faps the hivemind (symsymsym), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

dazed and confused

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

Five Easy Pieces for sure; I assumed it had already been mentioned. For me, it's the blueprint for the thread title. Wim Wenders made some films in the '70s that fit perfectly too, expecially Kings of the Road and Alice in the Cities.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:23 (fifteen years ago)

Easy Rider obv

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

"especially"--"exspecially" only applies to all the porno films that spoof Wim Wenders.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

Disagree about Five Easy Pieces -- feel like it's a movie that actually has a pretty major plot arc but disguises it. Scenes at the family home have a real sense of climax, ending is very dramatic, etc.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

It's Nicholson's character who's aimless more than the film itself, so I see your point.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

Count me in as another poster who knows exactly what we're talking about but can't actually name anything.

Cunga, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:57 (fifteen years ago)

I find that aimful movies often suck.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

Count me in as another poster who knows exactly what we're talking about but can't actually name anything.

That's actually completely the opposite of how I work: most of the time I haven't a clue what we're talking about, but I chime in anyway.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

"vaguely hippieish" is throwing me off but my all-time favorite film, Some Call It Loving (1973), fits "purposefully aimless" as well as any film ever made.

I'm getting the faint impression that "vaguely hippieish" winds up meaning "with men as the central characters." If that impression is wrong, then try Wanda, Puzzle of a Downfall Child, or A Place for Lovers.

clem OTM re: Wenders. Kings of the Road is probably the best example of what this thread is looking for I can think of. Closest Fassbinder counterpart would be Katzelmacher. I think Aguirre absolutely counts here although, again, the "vaguely hippieish" thang throws things off a tad.

I find that aimful movies often suck.

Amen!!

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

does midnight cowboy fit into this? aside from it being a story about two men bonding, they basically just meander while they bond iirc

gr8080, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

Cisco Pike

twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

Was gonna say there must be some Kristofferson films that fit this.

O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)

The Passenger

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)

Jack Nicholson sure did love aimless movies.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I do think Midnight Cowboy fits.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:22 (fifteen years ago)

the thread topic makes me think of all those 70s movies that have a lot of long shots or tracking shots in scenes of people wandering around, sometimes back and forth, sometimes in circles.

sarahel, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but what are all those 70s movies

gr8080, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:26 (fifteen years ago)

Just in terms of mood, and scarcity of actual stuff happening--of course I absolutely love it--I think McCabe & Mrs. Miller more or less fits.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Cassavettes fits.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

Cassavetes

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

cassavettes tapes

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

is there a chillwave band called this?

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

john cougar cassava-melon-cass-etes tapes

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:34 (fifteen years ago)

there are some hip ppl in cassavetes but not v hippieish i don't think?

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

Zabriskie Point is one of these?

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

xp - i would be in a chillwave band called cassavetes tapes

sarahel, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:36 (fifteen years ago)

man zabriskie point makes me want to start a whole other thread dedicated to films that have people walking around in deserts.

gr8080, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

best kind of movie, imo

gr8080, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

El Topo, dude, El Topo

sarahel, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

walkabout

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

Gus Van Sant and Arvo Part to thread...

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

I rlly have no idea what you ppl are talking about

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

probably a handful of Pasolini films that I started watching and fell asleep in the middle

sarahel, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)

Back in the day even a director as non-hippieish and purposeful as Peckinpah would put some aimless sections in his films. Would that his disciples... aah never mind.

The Decline of British Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

i think these may be deleuze's cinema of the time-image, as opposed to the action-image, where there's a rupture after WWII and characters no longer react to a situation but rather just record it. he says the sensory-motor connection is loosened in neo-realism, where we find reality is "dispersive, elliptical, errant or wavering, working in blocs, with deliberately weak connections and floating events", followed by the french new wave with wandering events and irrational linkages, tati's characters seeing not doing, antonioni's emotied and disconnected spaces, etc.

http://books.google.com/books?id=WKGsHmlEfYkC

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

i meant emptied but emotied is good

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

But maybe just having Warren Oates in your movie makes it seem aimless

The Decline of British Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

man zabriskie point makes me want to start a whole other thread dedicated to films that have people walking around in deserts.

The Shooting to thread!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)

Inner Scar

gr8080, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

Pat Garrett would have passages that fit, right? I've only seen it once, but I'm thinking of the moody "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" sequences. I think James Redd is right--that mood permeates American films in general at the time. Not everybody responds to it--I do, and I'm aware that I tend to overrate American films of that era.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

'Nashville' ambles along in this manner

the Chinese firewall of the heart (Michael B), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

cant believe we never said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB4xlYKAVCQ

gr8080, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

just having Warren Oates in your movie makes it seem aimless

We look nothing alike, but I suppose there is a deeper resemblance.

Aimless, Sunday, 5 June 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)

Speaking of Oates, 92 In The Shade fits this description. In other hands it would have been a tight b-movie potboiler, but instead comes out like a loose pot-burner.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho! (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 June 2011 04:36 (fourteen years ago)

then of course there's the aimless triumvirate of Oates, Nicholson, and Hellman in The Shooting.

Cosmo Vitelli, Sunday, 5 June 2011 07:18 (fourteen years ago)

I'm really looking forward to Tree of Life (I adore all of Malick's films), but the trailer makes me think it fits this thread's description.

L'avventura seems to fit as well (just like The Passenger mentioned above, another Antonioni film). I only saw it once a few years back, but the plot seemed thin, mostly characters meandering about).

musicfanatic, Sunday, 5 June 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)


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