EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

feel like ezra is a more likable and otm but matt is a deeper thinker so i dunno

yglesias has been annoying the fucc out of me

strikes me as the kind of guy who would have been a member of 'the best and brightest' or whatever

yeah thats his exact flaw, i mean he supported the iraq war via absurd over thinking, still i have to admit he has influenced my thinking on such topics as urban planning and destroying the senate

i dumped yg from my read a while ago. i guess that's sort of 'mcnabb off my madden team' but there u go. mainstream dem-liberal technocrats aren't thin on the ground and he's a shitty writer imo. i still 'like' him i guess but i stopped enjoying his writing like at all.

however i do get into quasi-arguments about urban planning fairly frequently (and no not just on ilx) and i find myself mimicking yglesian points

who has better trolls?

i feel like yglesias is still sort of confused by irl

"from my reader" i mean

i must admit the truly sad number of typos were a big part of me ignoring his blog.

plus i figure the shit he talks about is so everywhere that other ppl will link to him if it's really worth it (see also: andrew sullivan)

both of these guys are nearly worthless on culture

they used to live in a house with dave weigel and spencer ackerman, bet it was a terrible place to hang out

haa i find the typos charming because a. its p 'internet' b. i am myself as you all know a masterful typo maker

see i figured you as an accomplished and rigorous stylist whereas our think tank opinion leader is just fucking lazy and/or dyslexic

shouldnt this be in ILM

they used to live in a house with dave weigel and spencer ackerman, bet it was a terrible place to hang out

― max, Monday, January 3, 2011 12:55 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that there is an offline culture of young dc bloggers and i know abt it is simultaneously fascinating and horrifying, although i was unaware of this particular amazing roommates based nugget, would love to run into these guys at a bbq and get into a drunken political argument

see i figured you as an accomplished and rigorous stylist whereas our think tank opinion leader is just fucking lazy and/or dyslexic

― goole, Monday, January 3, 2011 12:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ty 4 yr support

ackerman talks about that time the most; i did not know weigel was one of them. feel a little weird for knowing about this crap tbh.

i dont really read attackerman, his shtick grates

he's done with FDL if that helps

i dunno if i've come clean about this but i have a war-nerd streak so

ackerman talks about that time the most; i did not know weigel was one of them. feel a little weird for knowing about this crap tbh.

― goole, Monday, January 3, 2011 1:01 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me too but on the other hand did u know that ezra klein became a health care reform expert to impress simon schamas daughter chloe

no i was unaware. she must be pretty fine.

i think i find the stuff he covers interesting, but i guess i dont really, i read him occasionally at wired xp re ackerman

lol max whatre u talkin abt

haha i have been under the impression that i knew a lot of gossip abt these ppl but now that i am thinking about it the thing about chloe schama is the only gossip-y nugget i know, kind of disappointed in myself

http://grab.by/8b5N

anyway when i saw ezra klein on tv i was surprised his persona seemed more journalistic glory days upstart young reporter than coddled nerdface technocratic blogger - i liked him

he has an early 80s newspaper look and feel to him

Yglesias has been wrong many times.

Klein meanwhile is a duller writer but his steady crunching of numbers is ultimately educational.

yglesiases willingness to be ambitious and wrong is imo what makes him compelling - like i understand theres danger in utopian thinking but still reimagining the world and its institutions is def one of my hobbies

who has better trolls?

― goole, Monday, January 3, 2011 11:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

to answer my own q, i don't really know. klein's comments are pretty boring but i have noticed yglesias' "community" to be especially vicious and repetitive. neither of them seem to really care much but i think both have made gestures to get more involved. terrible drudgery, sounds like, to me.

as far as blogger gossip goes, can anyone verify that there are, in fact, paid trolls out there? i'd hate to think it was mere dedication causing the same people to say the same things in the same place every day

theres only one blog i can think of that has good comments, really feel like 'comments off' should be the default

TNC i assume?

your bløg has good comments joe

yah tnc and lol of course goes w/o saying my blog

btw how much does this trolling gig pay, who do i contact

i know, right

i saw an interview w/yglesias where he was like all my readers really hate me i have no idea why they come to my blog

he was k funny tbh

eh i've watched a few of his bloggingheads's and he comes off like a jerk imo, interrupting, going on and on

ha yeah ive never been able to bring myself to watch a blogginghead and in general id much rather read than watch any news type thing but for some reason i saw this it was a friendly interview at a like blogg convention where they we just joking around

anyway my head says klein but my heart goes yglesias, not sure what to do, prob follow my heart

yglesias is good on urban issues - not that he says anything new, but at least he's talking to relatively wide audience. but still...super annoying on a personal level. I like klein.

Yglesias is a philosophy major in every word he writes and this is awesome about him.

ugh this is gonna be like that week i read glenn greenwald isnt it

neither of these guys is much like glenn greenwald

unless you have some sort of distaste for american journalists, then yes it'll be like that lol

these guys are on the sensible/technocratic side of the great progressive blogger divide - greenwald exists on the polemic/activist shore - which is not to say hes any more or less otm, just that hes harder to take

I vaguely recall he had a big thing for Metric (or was it Stars?) back in the blogging days. Also hated 90s bands - what did they have to be sad about? or something to that effect.

everyone has to stop making me agree with him >:(

he has a letterboxd too

follow mine instead (note to self: maybe update it some time)

oh man

I’ve said this before but the extent to which left politics has just merged with mental illness is a real problem. https://t.co/XRwGavC5RC

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 25, 2025

Hardly surprising.

matty take the psychopath test

Klein: To at least give the other side of this a hearing: Doesn’t the existence of birth tourism suggest there is something indefensibly broad in the way that citizenship has been interpreted? I am as pro-immigrant as you can possibly be, and I think that’s abusive of the rules.

oic

wind sock as you can possibly be

yeah I raised an eyebrow at that while listening the other day

whoa dont go overboard here

I may even have had a wry smile.

Sorry, I also pulled out my earbuds and threw my phone out the window.

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the ideas prince got kissed by fascism and turned into a toad

these guys are all such fuckin losers

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i hate these dickheads so much

I get the impulse to find some word that actually stings that idiots, dumbasses, dipshits, doesn't really work anymore but the "oh boy I can say the R word like it's the 90s and people yelled that at me" is really obvious in many cases

I think Yggy is trying to be ironic there, given the lede of his latest newsletter, but that's no excuse.

"the dems need to say the r word more to win" is certainly one way of looking at the last election

It’s gonna be a long time before I can listen to EK again

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lol

‪nobody really‬ ‪nobodyreally.bsky.social‬

He was running very obvious sock puppets in his old blog comments section back when he was posting about why we should invade Iraq, one of the many reasons why he used to be a punchline in the old internet days.

https://bsky.app/profile/nobodyreally.bsky.social/post/3lmsbplwg2c2w

Kind of sad that he can't even do better than faint praise from his own sock puppet.

Matt Yglesias - "I have a tiny penis"

Matt Yglesias's Supportive Sock Puppet - "It's actually totally fine and good enough."

denying that youre a provocateur and a troll is some unseemly shit youre supposed to just go teeheehee and skip away

maybe some day he'll learn how to love himself 🥹

Has Matty considered that people don't dislike him because he's wrong, but because of his personality.

denying that youre a provocateur and a troll is some unseemly shit youre supposed to just go teeheehee and skip away

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 15, 2025 5:36 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

seriously. whatever you think about his ideas, he definitely posts to get people enraged and to not admit that seems totally hilarious. also he is REALLY mad which is funny.

i have the dude blocked tho he is seriously noxious

same

https://i.imgur.com/bgsvg2i.png

i am not trying to hand it to isis, but i do believe him that he was making a dumb joke and not doing a sock puppet fail

he deserves every annoyance that comes to him tho, so i don't care

it just doesnt scan as a joke, also hes a known sockpuppeter

like whats the joke

if it was supposed to be a joke, it was a feeble attempt to mock people who react strongly to his opinions. we're the dummies, his opinions are supposed to be very boring and uncontroversial, you see?

The only way that's a joke is if he's making fun of his own past sock puppetry.

stancil kind of does that kind of posting and it's like, if your opinion is just an observation of the world, then does everyone else not have eyes and ears?

i just went and unblocked him to see if there was more earlier in the thread that would make the "joke" make sense but theres not https://bsky.app/profile/mattyglesias.bsky.social/post/3lmpu7uxyys26

why does he suddenly start talking about himself in the first person

third person

dont worry i reblocked him i like how bluesky blurs the profile pic of the blockee you dont even have to look at that fucker

if it was supposed to be a joke, it was a feeble attempt to mock people who react strongly to his opinions. we're the dummies, his opinions are supposed to be very boring and uncontroversial, you see?

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, April 15, 2025 12:52 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah that's what i was thinking. i wasn't surprised the joke wasn't funny because, you know, iglesias

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so sad to see a once staunch centrist decide the fascist money is better

That’s as lazy as it gets. Hope they’re not paying well.

it's gotta be kind of a joke right. like not the type of joke that is funny or that should ever be uttered by anyone

idk on bluesky theyre saying hes gone deep down the silicon valley right wing rabbit hole

I mean the tweet before that was pretty bad too. Who instinctively likes Hegseth??

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Everyone loves a drunk

perfect punditry

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