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anthony, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

pound sterling == classic

Aimless, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ezra pound anthony?

Julio Desouza, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

mmmmmmmmmm pound cake classic.
Destroy: anyone who calls it the number sign key and not the pound key on voice mail,
Dud: pound as as sign next to the real pound sign.

Mr Noodles, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ezra pound i meant

anthony, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Ezra Pound

With usura hath no man a house of good stone, each block cut smooth and well fitting, that design might cover their face. With usura hath no man a painted paradise on his church wall, harpes et lux, that virgin may receiveth message, halo projects from incision

Craig Freeman, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

One of those people (don't know how many there are) whose real significance may have been what he MADE HAPPEN, his Life and Contacts, etc -- rather than the verse he actually wrote. Even HSM and the Cantos are not uniformly enthralling.

(Search 'In A Station of the Metro', obviously.)

Actually that distinction between 'artists' and 'shakers' might be a goer, in all kinds of contexts.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm fairly much in agreement with John Dolan's assessment of Pound :

". . . quick: name a Pound poem you like. “In A Station of the Metro”? Yeah, the man wrote one nice haiku. And, of course, The Cantos. Mustn’t forget The Cantos. There are about two pages worth of good poetry in The Cantos. That’s somewhat better than the proverbial monkey-chained-to-typewriter might have produced; but then Hugh Kenner never wrote a book called The Monkey Era. Pound the Ringmaster, the publicist, deserves respect: Ezra P. T. Barnum Pound, literary entrepreneur. But Pound the poet? Like mi barrio, el no existe."

Ess Kay, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I happen to agree with sonme of his assessments (on that link) - but that knockabout-polemical tone is a bit worrying: doubtless he talks about people I love in the same way.

TS: Pound vs Kenner

the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I speak as someone who was deeply under Mr. Pound's influence for several years - specifically the years when I was writing several poems a week and thought of myself as a poet. Even then I found the Cantos to be more or less unreadable for long stretches. I particularly find his penchant for aping the style of the King James Bible to be an unfortunate affectation, all the more so in light of his announced aesthetics.

OTOH, Pound did more than any English speaker in the 20th century to advance the art of translation. IMO, most of his best works are translations. I do agree that his major importance was as an irritant and a catalyst, an explainer and a complainer, a self-conscious gadfly and a theorist. He was one of the people who shaped modern poetry.

Unquestionably, Ezra is the best poet ever born in Idaho. I think we can all agree to that.

Little Nipper, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

+ Ezra Loomis: son of Homer: husband of Dorothy Shakespear[e?]: and father of Omar -- grate Poundian names!!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

+ / Nipper - I agree, mostly - but one other question - what *is* readable in the Cantos? The Pisan / cage stuff, presumably - but right now the virtues of the rest are escaping me. But I would LIKE to like the thing.

(+ cf Bunting on the Alps, bien sur)

the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

PS / my last 2 posts = www "influence" (= afterlife) of £. $$$! dam' FUNNY@###!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the opening sounds pretty, pf. and all those chinese characters look cool. I realize this does not sound like a grand achievement.

Josh, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

PITCHFOX ON THE FOXING CHINESE CHARACYTERTING KUNG-FU-TSEUING qomaam outside th3e pub tonighingt monety

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

cantos overrated, how you like them challops?

wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 13:20 (sixteen years ago)

insert chinese ideogram for "RONG" here

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 13:21 (sixteen years ago)

The best pro-Pounding critical assessment I have read is The Pound Era by Hugh Kenner. He neatly proves that, if your head is stuffed with the proper grabbag of allusions and you are willing to read, sift, reread and resift the Cantos, then they will appear to you as richly suggestive works of art.

However, Kenner failed to persuade me that remodeling my brain along the lines of Pound's personal crochets would make me sexier, more handsome, a better cook or a happier person, but only that I would be able to better appreciate the Cantos. This wasn't a weighty enough reason for me to undertake the task, so I still find them densely inedible.

Aimless, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago)


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