If Chevy didn't come off as such a douche I'd say him.
― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
Man, I just don't know. This is a battle of heavyweights. Now, more than ever.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think many hipsters would fellate Chevy Chase with the kind of zeal that they would fellate Bill Murray. I guess that makes Chevy Chase the winner, and Bill Murray the loser by association.
― /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\||||||( *__* )||||||/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (res), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Hmm, I'd say Murray and I can assure you that hipster fellation never has nor never will enter into my calculations.
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
http://possumblog.mu.nu/images/carl%20spackler.jpg
Vs.http://www.listphile.com/Six_Degrees_Kevin_Bacon/Chevy_Chase/image/chevy-chase-celebrity-photo.jpg
― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
Funny that Chevy Chase has been playing overbearing fathers since the '80s, while Bill Murray rarely plays a dad, and when he does, it's usually one with no apparent relationship with his kids
― da croupier, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
chevy just hasn't had as many great roles. maybe if he'd made some better career choices and not been a dick to everybody?
― carles II of spain (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
what kind of trophy would you give chevy for winning a "people who won't suck your dick" contest? a singing bass with the mouthpiece sealed in epoxy?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Although... Chevy Chase is associated with Steely Dan, whose music is absolute concentrated horseshit (*ducks*).
― /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\||||||( *__* )||||||/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (res), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Chevy's career totally nosedived after like '85 or so. Murray's by far the superior actor with the better cv
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
who would you rather hang out with.
― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
in your karoake room.
― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
c'mon, murray all the way. maybe chevy in the 80s but not now.
― carles II of spain (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Chase is supposed to be a total asshole irl.
― ENBB, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
A VOTE OF NEUTRALITY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krVXRCcr2M4
― Dream impossible dreams (R Baez), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
so i heard.
isn't the last big thing he did a lithuanian cola advert or something?
x-post
― carles II of spain (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
lol
I guess the Community thread really DOES have everyone in the country who watches that show on it
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
x-posts lol I wouldn't be surprised. I read an article once about how he was basically blacklisted in Hollywood for being an enormous jerk and just too difficult to work with.
― ENBB, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
sorry, it's actually turkish cola:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EvISlP24Ek
― carles II of spain (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
This is a funny thread title, cuz they had a fistfight just before an SNL Chevy guest-hosted circa '78.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Find more life in Chevy's old guy persona on Community and Hot Tub Time Machine at the moment than Bill Murray's old guy persona in Oscar-bait, but Murray's definitely made more great movies and done better work in them.
― da croupier, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
I tried to watch What About Bob the other day, and reaffirmed my belief that Bill Murray should always play the smartest guy in the room, not the stupidest.
― da croupier, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
wtf at the cola ad
― brownie, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
I assume you guys are just going by movies, cuz everyone knows SNL sucked pre-Rachel Dratch
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
what about bob is geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenius!
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
love that movie.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
julie haggerty's comedic talents have been under-utilized, haven't they? bedroom scene with shaquille oneal in 'freddy got fingered' notwithstanding.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
fletch better than anything murray's done
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
gotta hand it to chevy for getting himself a third act at this late date. he was totally nowheresville and now people like him again.
his talk show was one of the most uncomfortable things i've ever witnessed. its definitely up there with the titans. paula poundstone's late night show and rosanne's comedy show. as far as late night train wrecks go.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
why do britishers adore fletch so much? they do, don't they?
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
Been re-watching the Season 1 SNL eps on Netflix, and it amazes me what NBC Standards & Practices let Chase get away with on "Weekend Update," with those phone bits at the beginning of each.
"Yes, I understand, at a certain point . . . but who yanks the beads out?"
"Remember that time we were driving? I'm pretty sure that truck driver saw your head. No, it did not look like you were napping."
― children with wasting diseases (Phil D.), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
i hope ur not saying im a britisher
fletch is all-american bro
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
chevy did that creepy thing with the singing heads on his show, like all the time. dredging up old nightmares
― brownie, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
hhhmmmmm. if chevy had made 8 or 9 films as good as fletch, you might have a point.
x-posts
― carles II of spain (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
Fletch is amazing.
― ENBB, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
always been a fan of this album by the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJjhSsH5zo
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
very dreamy dream pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGa3M4bIP48&feature=related
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
Cornelius Crane "Chevy" Chase - great real name
― ENBB, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
I'm going with Bill, despite this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-cIUVgacaY
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
"i hope ur not saying im a britisher"
i don't know what you are, just reminded that i've heard big english praise for this movie over the years.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
For the number of times I've watched Fletch and the Vacation movies I really have to vote Chase.
― ENBB, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
but yeah bill all the way. he's bill murray!
i'm gonna watch that zombie movie again just to watch bill murray! hahaha! so funny.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
Chase never did films to compare with Rushmore and Groundhog Day.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
actually i've heard that they are both kinda nasty in real life.
I'd buy that. Murray seems like he'd be a dick.
― ENBB, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
i liked it when i was a kid but i can't watch meatballs anymore. him and that kid. blah. i hate that kid. their man/boy love thing makes me cringe.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
Is there a Chevy Chase equivalent to "Quick Change"? That's pretty much what gave my Billy vote the edge.
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
chevy, of course, is legendary for being one of the biggest jerks in hollywood. like, henley/frey level jerk.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
i will watch bill murray do anything forever. because he is bill murray. even that arty coppola crap.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
i will even watch bill murray's brothers do anything forever. because they remind me of bill murray.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
I mean Mel Gibson is:
a) a raging anti-semiteb) a homophobec) a violent spoused) a raging, unpleasant alcoholice) a horrible actor with nothing but shit on his resume
say what you will about Murray but at worst he's only 2 out of 5 there
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
interesting question, especially re: lewis in king of comedy. i mean, the character's obviously meant to come off as a giant dick, but he's also oddly sympathetic. and it's hard to say to what degree these actors were or weren't in on the joke. (i dunno, maybe there's anecdotes...)
I'd say Jerry is the most likely to be in on the joke. After all, The Nutty Professor was essentially about his asshole and non-asshole sides, and as Buddy Love he certainly didn't softpedal the assholery.
― Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 7 January 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
yeah give Lewis some credit there
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
e) a horrible actor with nothing but shit on his resume
c'mon mel was in plenty of classics dude, p. good actor in his prime too
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)
classics?
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 January 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)
now you're just challoping
― ullr saves (gbx), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
what, is mad max suddenly not a classic
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
in lethal weapon he chokes out gary busey with a friggin triangle choke!!! that's cinema.
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:09 (fourteen years ago)
hm. i may have to give you the first two installments of that series.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 January 2011 23:09 (fourteen years ago)
mad max!, not "lethal weapon"
the 2nd Mad Max movie is the only decent thing he's done, and it's not like the best thing about the movie is him. the rest is garbage.
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:11 (fourteen years ago)
idk why people front like the first lethal weapon isnt a masterpiece
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
because it isn't
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
tbf most 80s action films bore me to tears
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)
yeah a lot of cool stuff seems to bore you to tears
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:14 (fourteen years ago)
you say tomato...
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:16 (fourteen years ago)
..you say "booooring."
― Kerm, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
and formulatic and generic.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 January 2011 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
mel's pretty great in both of the first two mad max films, lethal weapon 1 (don't remember 2), gallipoli and the year of living dangerously. at least decent in other mid 80s stuff. but that was a long time ago. don't think i've liked him in anything even half recent other than chicken run. still, "nothing but shit on his resume" is ridiculous.
― carles marx (contenderizer), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
mel gibson is totally formulatic
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
payback's pretty good, too
― carles marx (contenderizer), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
payback owned, he was cool in Signs too
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
no
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)
that film might as well be on my "things that make me irrationally angry" list
too much crying in the first lethal weapon, as far as sad clown movies go.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)
lethal weapon doesnt work without the sensitive bro stuff - and by the way gibson is legit great in it
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
is there a youtube mashup of all the scenes from Mel films where he gets tortured
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
wait who's this thread about again?
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 January 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)
Chevy Gibson
― tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)
has bill murray ever cried in a movie?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:35 (fourteen years ago)
there's that comedy tear at the end of rushmore's vietnam play.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
um Bill's cried in a bunch of movies
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:38 (fourteen years ago)
he cries in lost in translation no?
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:39 (fourteen years ago)
it's more like his eyes are leaking though. has he ever done the full harvey keitel?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
Broken Flowers for one
doesn't he cry when he loses in Kingpin? lol
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:41 (fourteen years ago)
tbf how many actors have done the full Harvey Keitel
you know, balls in the wind, screaming at the sky while high on crack crying
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
too many
― Kerm, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUcIzgeh-So
― scott seward, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)
deniro's mewling breakdown in 'analyze this' was uncomfortably genuine for a throwaway comedy.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:46 (fourteen years ago)
bob's inability to cry always distracts me in scenes where he's supposed to weep
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 8 January 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)
movies in which mel gibson was at least kind of dope:
mad maxroad warriorgallipolithe year of living dangerouslythe bountymad max beyond thunderdomelethal weaponlethal weapon 2hamlet (1 of 3 good film version of hamlet in recent years, though probably the least interesting imo)braveheartpaybackchicken run
he's losing his mind and probably evil but he's good.
― omar little, Saturday, 8 January 2011 00:34 (fourteen years ago)
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http://i.imgur.com/Cohrz.gif
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 8 January 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
rong, The Man Who Knew Too Little is ace
― basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Saturday, 8 January 2011 04:00 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think there is a single thing that I've really liked chevy chase in
― iatee, Saturday, 8 January 2011 04:06 (fourteen years ago)
other than steely dan I guess
hey guys don't know if you know this but i heard chevy is kind of a jerk
― henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 8 January 2011 05:07 (fourteen years ago)
Jerry Lewis in The King Of Comedy, or Alan Alda in Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Is Alan Alda supposed to be a jerk too? I never heard that.
― Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 8 January 2011 05:42 (fourteen years ago)
this past christmas chevy gave everyone in the community cast one of those handheld cat urine detectors. sign of a jerk or a lovable prankster? probably both actually.
― there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Saturday, 8 January 2011 05:50 (fourteen years ago)
I'd heard a lot of talk to that effect at the time C&M came out; but actually, the way the 30 Rock cast raves about him makes me wonder if that wasn't the case.
― Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:14 (fourteen years ago)