Bill Murray vs. Chevy Chase

If Chevy didn't come off as such a douche I'd say him.

Man, I just don't know. This is a battle of heavyweights. Now, more than ever.

I don't think many hipsters would fellate Chevy Chase with the kind of zeal that they would fellate Bill Murray. I guess that makes Chevy Chase the winner, and Bill Murray the loser by association.

Hmm, I'd say Murray and I can assure you that hipster fellation never has nor never will enter into my calculations.

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http://www.listphile.com/Six_Degrees_Kevin_Bacon/Chevy_Chase/image/chevy-chase-celebrity-photo.jpg

Funny that Chevy Chase has been playing overbearing fathers since the '80s, while Bill Murray rarely plays a dad, and when he does, it's usually one with no apparent relationship with his kids

chevy just hasn't had as many great roles. maybe if he'd made some better career choices and not been a dick to everybody?

what kind of trophy would you give chevy for winning a "people who won't suck your dick" contest? a singing bass with the mouthpiece sealed in epoxy?

Although... Chevy Chase is associated with Steely Dan, whose music is absolute concentrated horseshit (*ducks*).

Chevy's career totally nosedived after like '85 or so. Murray's by far the superior actor with the better cv

who would you rather hang out with.

in your karoake room.

c'mon, murray all the way. maybe chevy in the 80s but not now.

Chase is supposed to be a total asshole irl.

A VOTE OF NEUTRALITY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krVXRCcr2M4

so i heard.

isn't the last big thing he did a lithuanian cola advert or something?

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lol

I guess the Community thread really DOES have everyone in the country who watches that show on it

x-posts lol I wouldn't be surprised. I read an article once about how he was basically blacklisted in Hollywood for being an enormous jerk and just too difficult to work with.

sorry, it's actually turkish cola:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EvISlP24Ek

This is a funny thread title, cuz they had a fistfight just before an SNL Chevy guest-hosted circa '78.

Find more life in Chevy's old guy persona on Community and Hot Tub Time Machine at the moment than Bill Murray's old guy persona in Oscar-bait, but Murray's definitely made more great movies and done better work in them.

I tried to watch What About Bob the other day, and reaffirmed my belief that Bill Murray should always play the smartest guy in the room, not the stupidest.

wtf at the cola ad

I assume you guys are just going by movies, cuz everyone knows SNL sucked pre-Rachel Dratch

what about bob is geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenius!

love that movie.

julie haggerty's comedic talents have been under-utilized, haven't they? bedroom scene with shaquille oneal in 'freddy got fingered' notwithstanding.

fletch better than anything murray's done

gotta hand it to chevy for getting himself a third act at this late date. he was totally nowheresville and now people like him again.

his talk show was one of the most uncomfortable things i've ever witnessed. its definitely up there with the titans. paula poundstone's late night show and rosanne's comedy show. as far as late night train wrecks go.

why do britishers adore fletch so much? they do, don't they?

Been re-watching the Season 1 SNL eps on Netflix, and it amazes me what NBC Standards & Practices let Chase get away with on "Weekend Update," with those phone bits at the beginning of each.

"Yes, I understand, at a certain point . . . but who yanks the beads out?"

"Remember that time we were driving? I'm pretty sure that truck driver saw your head. No, it did not look like you were napping."

i hope ur not saying im a britisher

fletch is all-american bro

chevy did that creepy thing with the singing heads on his show, like all the time. dredging up old nightmares

hhhmmmmm. if chevy had made 8 or 9 films as good as fletch, you might have a point.

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Fletch is amazing.

always been a fan of this album by the way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJjhSsH5zo

very dreamy dream pop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGa3M4bIP48&feature=related

Cornelius Crane "Chevy" Chase - great real name

I'm going with Bill, despite this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-cIUVgacaY

"i hope ur not saying im a britisher"

i don't know what you are, just reminded that i've heard big english praise for this movie over the years.

For the number of times I've watched Fletch and the Vacation movies I really have to vote Chase.

but yeah bill all the way. he's bill murray!

i'm gonna watch that zombie movie again just to watch bill murray! hahaha! so funny.

Chase never did films to compare with Rushmore and Groundhog Day.

actually i've heard that they are both kinda nasty in real life.

I'd buy that. Murray seems like he'd be a dick.

i liked it when i was a kid but i can't watch meatballs anymore. him and that kid. blah. i hate that kid. their man/boy love thing makes me cringe.

Is there a Chevy Chase equivalent to "Quick Change"? That's pretty much what gave my Billy vote the edge.

chevy, of course, is legendary for being one of the biggest jerks in hollywood. like, henley/frey level jerk.

i will watch bill murray do anything forever. because he is bill murray. even that arty coppola crap.

i will even watch bill murray's brothers do anything forever. because they remind me of bill murray.

I mean Mel Gibson is:

a) a raging anti-semite
b) a homophobe
c) a violent spouse
d) a raging, unpleasant alcoholic
e) a horrible actor with nothing but shit on his resume

say what you will about Murray but at worst he's only 2 out of 5 there

interesting question, especially re: lewis in king of comedy. i mean, the character's obviously meant to come off as a giant dick, but he's also oddly sympathetic. and it's hard to say to what degree these actors were or weren't in on the joke. (i dunno, maybe there's anecdotes...)

I'd say Jerry is the most likely to be in on the joke. After all, The Nutty Professor was essentially about his asshole and non-asshole sides, and as Buddy Love he certainly didn't softpedal the assholery.

yeah give Lewis some credit there

e) a horrible actor with nothing but shit on his resume

c'mon mel was in plenty of classics dude, p. good actor in his prime too

classics?

now you're just challoping

what, is mad max suddenly not a classic

in lethal weapon he chokes out gary busey with a friggin triangle choke!!! that's cinema.

hm. i may have to give you the first two installments of that series.

mad max!, not "lethal weapon"

the 2nd Mad Max movie is the only decent thing he's done, and it's not like the best thing about the movie is him. the rest is garbage.

idk why people front like the first lethal weapon isnt a masterpiece

because it isn't

tbf most 80s action films bore me to tears

yeah a lot of cool stuff seems to bore you to tears

you say tomato...

..you say "booooring."

and formulatic and generic.

mel's pretty great in both of the first two mad max films, lethal weapon 1 (don't remember 2), gallipoli and the year of living dangerously. at least decent in other mid 80s stuff. but that was a long time ago. don't think i've liked him in anything even half recent other than chicken run. still, "nothing but shit on his resume" is ridiculous.

mel gibson is totally formulatic

payback's pretty good, too

payback owned, he was cool in Signs too

no

that film might as well be on my "things that make me irrationally angry" list

too much crying in the first lethal weapon, as far as sad clown movies go.

lethal weapon doesnt work without the sensitive bro stuff - and by the way gibson is legit great in it

is there a youtube mashup of all the scenes from Mel films where he gets tortured

wait who's this thread about again?

Chevy Gibson

has bill murray ever cried in a movie?

there's that comedy tear at the end of rushmore's vietnam play.

um Bill's cried in a bunch of movies

he cries in lost in translation no?

it's more like his eyes are leaking though. has he ever done the full harvey keitel?

Broken Flowers for one

doesn't he cry when he loses in Kingpin? lol

tbf how many actors have done the full Harvey Keitel

you know, balls in the wind, screaming at the sky while high on crack crying

too many

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUcIzgeh-So

deniro's mewling breakdown in 'analyze this' was uncomfortably genuine for a throwaway comedy.

bob's inability to cry always distracts me in scenes where he's supposed to weep

movies in which mel gibson was at least kind of dope:

mad max
road warrior
gallipoli
the year of living dangerously
the bounty
mad max beyond thunderdome
lethal weapon
lethal weapon 2
hamlet (1 of 3 good film version of hamlet in recent years, though probably the least interesting imo)
braveheart
payback
chicken run

he's losing his mind and probably evil but he's good.

he's losing his mind and probably evil but he's good.

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I tried to watch What About Bob the other day, and reaffirmed my belief that Bill Murray should always play the smartest guy in the room, not the stupidest.

rong, The Man Who Knew Too Little is ace

I don't think there is a single thing that I've really liked chevy chase in

other than steely dan I guess

hey guys don't know if you know this but i heard chevy is kind of a jerk

Jerry Lewis in The King Of Comedy, or Alan Alda in Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Is Alan Alda supposed to be a jerk too? I never heard that.

this past christmas chevy gave everyone in the community cast one of those handheld cat urine detectors. sign of a jerk or a lovable prankster? probably both actually.

Is Alan Alda supposed to be a jerk too? I never heard that.

I'd heard a lot of talk to that effect at the time C&M came out; but actually, the way the 30 Rock cast raves about him makes me wonder if that wasn't the case.