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After spending most of the night scanning my computer (24Gb of hard drive takes a long time) and having to re-install Windows I'd like to ask:
Has anyone here ever indulged in creating viruses and if so why?

DG, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My programming skillz extend this far:

10 PRINT "TOM IS ACE"
20 GOTO 10

So no. What virus was it?

Tom, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dude, you should always start with 10 CLS.

I learnt that from a book about programming which taught via the medium of DINOSAURS. One was called Spike. They were really funny dinosaurs. They went sunbathing on the beach and wore hankies on their head! Ha! Ha!

sarah, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I use Apple Mac. That sort of sums it up: I am a cyber-moron. I barely know how to html.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

God, I hate viruses. I know what you mean about scanning - I have two 30gb hard drives that take forever. I pity these people with their new 80gb and up drives. Ach.

Anyway, thankfully I've only ever suffered from one virus to date, and I caught it before it did any damage. Hence, I've never had the desire to actually create a virus, and think it's irresponsible because you end up hurting people you don't even know.

Paul Strange, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And of course I don't know how to spell but that's also outside internet.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was called 'Worm[something or other]' and all it seemed to do was attempt to send emails with itself attached to other people. But you can't take any risks with these things, can you?

DG, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

my friend had this worm virus recently. have you sorted it now? if not, i'll find out what she did to sort it

gareth, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DG, my friend Talitha has just caught a v.similar virus on her (non-Mac) computer. Over the weekend she sent herself ten million email a doc that confirmed she was a yoga teacher (which she already knew), copying me at work (I know too). All day monday and yesterday they were pinging in every 25 mins or so. The Mac at work caught nothing, as far as virus scans can tell. How did you rid yourself of it, so I can tell her? (I am away from wor for five days, and fear that all Angel will be bloated to heaven with the yoga email when I return).

mark s, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DG - sorry, I wrote that worm virus. I did it to impress a girl. It all seems so silly now. Sorry about the hard disk reformatting thing.

Nick, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It sounds like kakworm. Which is probably not a very good way of impressing girls Nick. But I guess it's what you do with it.

This webpage may help if you are among the afflicted of said kakworm:

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp? VName=VBS_KAKWORM.B

Martin, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used Norton Anti-Virus to scan my hard-drive, but it turned out to have infected a file called sirc32.exe which I found after Norton had quarantined it, making it unusable) is necessary to run *anything* in Windows. I had to use the Win98 startup disk to re-install Windows from DOS to replace the file. I am not a happy bunny.

DG, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

kakworm? a scatalogical worm. or is that a tapeworm? I can only see Omar giggling at this post.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A nasty dose of the Sircam worm. So good it's been knighted. Apparently it hides in your recycle bin too which is a bit cheeky if you ask me. Worms have no standards these days.

Martin, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What does this 'Sircam Worm' do? All it seemed to want to do is send itself to everyone in my address book.

DG, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It wants to send itself on to every email address it can possibly find on your machine so they can have some worm action too. Which is nice...

Martin, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think SirCam is the one that attaches a random MS Office document to the emails it sends out... I got some report on Brazil from some guy I didn't know, which I recognized as suspicious and ignored.

What do you people have 24Gb of that needs to be scanned? I guess its safer that way, to make sure nothing gets missed, but if its mostly mp3s you're wasting your time.

Cryosmurf, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Am I mistaken in my belief that no one would need to worry about these modern email-borne worms and viruses if they chose something other than Outlook Express as their email program?

Nick, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes.

Martin, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Am I mistaken in the belief that I have never yet seen an e-mail virus attachment which did not pretty much scream "HELLO I AM A VIRUS DONT OPEN ME"?

Tom, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It has nothing to do with Outlook Express whatsoever, and hasn't for a while.

Cryosmurf, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OK - just checking. It's just that no program on my Mac seems able to interface with Lotus Notes in any way at all so I'm dead impressed if some virus writer has managed to get it to send out emails.

Nick, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Here is the site about the w32.sircam.worm virus, with handy link to the utility you need to get rid of it. If you've gotten any e-mails that say

Hi! How are you?
I send you this file in order to have your advice
See you later. Thanks

then you need to clean your machine, otherwise your hard drive is toast on October 16th.

Dave M., Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Getting Lotus Notes to interface with anything is a blast. I think SirCam comes with its own built-in email code, so it only needs to find addresses.

If people wouldn't run stuff they knew nothing about, or would pay attention to the sort of thing Tom mentioned, viruses would become a non-issue. I've never needed a virus scanner, and never had a virus. The problem is in the user, and blaming Microsoft is like blaming Ford when your car runs out of gas.

Cryosmurf, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's ridiculous. If you haven't touched the attachment, it can live in your inbox forever. No cleaning, no dying hard drive, no nothing...

Cryosmurf, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If you've gotten any e-mails that say

Hi! How are you?
I send you this file in order to have your advice
See you later. Thanks

then you need to clean your machine, otherwise your hard drive is toast on October 16th.

Dave M - I got that email but didn't open the attachment because I am not a complete idiot. I assumed this meant that I didn't have to worry about cleaning my machine. Are you telling me something different?

Nick, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah I am concerned about this too - I had allowed myself to believe that by not being stupid and opening files from complete strangers saying they loved me, etc. I had escaped the viral horror but is this actually not the case?

Tom, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The *only 2 ways* you can become infected with the SirCam virus is to run the infected attachment, or to have unprotected network shares available which the virus can spread itself to. If you did not touch, look at, view, launch, or execute the attachment, you are safe. Receiving a virus email does not mean you are infected by it.

Ok, I'm worn out now...

Cryosmurf, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I never open attatchments if I even THINK its suspiscious. DO you guys know there are worms for LINUX? Who the hell would wwan tto sabatoge LINUX? I mean really

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Heh, I got one of the emails from your infected computer, DG.

Josh, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When did you get that letter? My PC should be fixed by now.
As for accusations of stupidity, I thought it was a mail from one of you lot, so I didn't think opening the attachment would be dangerous.

DG, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The *only 2 ways* you can become infected with the SirCam virus is to run the infected attachment, or to have unprotected network shares available which the virus can spread itself to.

But the latter doesn't involve opening the file, does it? And I did have such unprotected shares on my LAN, as many other users do. Besides, it never hurts to be careful, and the FixSirc.exe file takes about two minutes to run.

Dave M., Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was before you fixed your computer, DG. I knew it wasn't from you though because I got one from someone else (that I don't know at all) the day before, same grammatically damaged text, different attachment.

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jack, Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:52 (twenty-three years ago)

amazing. I want to be a robot too.

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:56 (twenty-three years ago)

six years pass...

i fucking hate the internet security 2010 virus. tonight i got it for the second time. after the first time, in november, i've done nothing risky, haven't downloaded jack, and still, a couple hours ago, kapow. had to spend $90 having mcafee remotely remove it. anyways, anyone know anything about this virus?

kamerad, Monday, 18 January 2010 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

Ha ha, 24 gb hard drive.

Jeff, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

What is this virus?

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Monday, 18 January 2010 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.apple.com

dyao, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

Are you using Internet Explorer? I spent this morning cleaning the System Security malware (which is similar, installs automatically from infected websites if you are using IE) off my mom's pc.

Jaq, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:12 (sixteen years ago)

anyways a quick google brings this:

http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-internet-security-2010-removal-guide-t16909.htm

cogito, ergo some dude (dyao), Monday, 18 January 2010 04:13 (sixteen years ago)

i'm running firefox through internet explorer. thanks guys for the tips. though malwarebytes found the virus, it couldn't remove it upon rebooting, which is why i ended up paying mcafee $90 to do that for me. god i hate viruses. next computer i get is for sure gonna be a mac

kamerad, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

This link tells you why you don't reboot with malwarebytes to get rid of this one.

Jaq, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:34 (sixteen years ago)

"i'm running firefox through internet explorer."

How exactly do you do that? No wonder you got a virus.

svend, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:38 (sixteen years ago)

well i'm using firefox. i thought firefox runs through internet explorer, no? (and yes, ignorance like this is conducive to catching viruses.) jaq, thanks for the link! but when i ran malwarebytes, before calling mcafee, i had gotten to what would be step 15 on the link, and malwarebytes told me it couldn't remove the virus without shutting down. maybe the internet security 2010 has gotten smarter? either way what a fucking pain in the ass

kamerad, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:47 (sixteen years ago)

Never pay for stuff like that. AVG Free is pretty good and could have done it for nothing. Firefox is separate from IE, which is why it is more recommended.

svend, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

except when i go there, i get this
http://c.ppcxml.net/?d=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50ac80723bee

kamerad, Monday, 18 January 2010 04:57 (sixteen years ago)

xp no, Firefox and Internet Explorer are two completely different products by different companies, etc., independent of each other. Think of them as Coke and Pepsi.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Monday, 18 January 2010 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

the timing
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/technology/internet/18defend.html?pagewanted=1&th&emc=th
i have another question, if anyone knows -- what does malwarebytes protection module do? is it any good?

kamerad, Monday, 18 January 2010 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

It's an anti-spyware anti-virus product that's as good as everything else out there. Just like the rest, you need to make sure it's updated frequently and that you run full scans on a regular basis.

Jaq, Monday, 18 January 2010 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Cleaning up my friends computer which got hit with this. Now, it won't connect to Windows Update. I keep getting a Error number: 0x80072EFF thru Explorer. I can't even manually d/l the updates, since it's either blocking connection or timing otu from the server.

WTF cat with unfitting music (kingfish), Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:26 (fifteen years ago)


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