Best sin / activity from "a range of activities that The Miracle of Frogiveness brands as sinful"

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Originally 89 sins listed in the intro to this wiki entry on the Spencer W. Kimball book. It was a challenge to whittle them down to 50, but here we go. Sorry if you wanted to vote for "hatred of God" or the classic catch-all, "pride," for you Milton fans. Or any sex I just left in the catch-all "every sex perversion," just in case. Note that "disobedience to wives" was never included in the first place.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
every sex perversion 7
fleshliness 6
filthy communications 5
inventing evil things 2
becoming a stumbling block 2
speaking evil of dignitaries 2
irreverence 2
greediness for filthy lucre 1
double-tongued talk 1
slander 1
despoiling 1
incontinence 1
cursing 1
disobedience to parents 1
presumptuousness 1
unholiness in masters 1
disobedience to husbands 1
self-will 1
defiling 0
vengefulness 0
insatiable appetite 0
implacability 0
bitterness 0
provoking 0
evil speaking 0
instability 0
clamor 0
ignorance 0
maligning 0
lack of understanding 0
impatience 0
lack of truth 0
whispering 0
backbiting 0
indiscretion 0
flattery 0
high-mindedness 0
lack of natural affection 0
improvidence 0
striking 0
brawling 0
foolishness 0
ignobleness 0
filthiness 0
profanity 0
boasting 0
inhospitality 0
unthankfulness 0
quarrelsomeness 0
disobedience in servants 0


Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

I am thinking "inventing evil things," because it makes me imagine a Satanic Edison tinkering over an altar.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

I guess if a frog gives you something (other than a palmload of froggy piss when you pick it up) that's a kind of small miracle...

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

are we voting for which one of these is most fun/profitable/life-enhancing to do? cos I'm v. torn

I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

I assume "whispering" means telling secrets and not just the act of speaking softly although I sort of wish it did.

I'm leaning towards evil-speaking too, I think.

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

Kept reading this as Miracle of Froginess and now I've noticed the typo

I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

I am really curious about some of these, like why "incontinence" is a sin.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

lol I hadn't noticed

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

Thank God typos are not a sin! But I think saying "thank God" is a sin.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

cursing, self-will and every sex perversion are all pretty classic

"incontinence" means sexual incontinence I wd imagine. also pretty classic

I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

"lack of understanding"

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

I'm thinking incontinence must be the like lack of self-control definition.

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

'speaking evil of dignitaries' presumably including ilx mods

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

NV otm

" Often used to refer to a lacking in moderation or self-control, especially related to sexual desire.[1] This concept is also called wantonness."

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

"foolishness" = pretty fucking harsh sin

I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

Oh man "speaking evil of dignitaries" is so, so great, too. I bet it includes Scout leaders.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

I speak evil of dignitaries on a daily basis, in the process of committing a dozen of those other sins.

I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

I would say I've engaged in 15-20 of these in the past week tbh.

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

"indiscretion"

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Not saying you've committed indiscretion, E. I have a couple times a day, without knowing, pretty sure.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

lol

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

'every sex perversion' makes me lol, because it's like they have in mind all those people who say, "okay so sex perversion is a sin but what if I get off on angels? or fluffy rabbits. is that a sin?" They're like, EVERY perversion.

also I would like to know more about these:
despoiling
ignobleness
clamor

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

CLEARLY din is a sin.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

a quiet world is a sinless world

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

filthy communications huh. Boy am I screwed.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

I love that one because it makes me imagine a smutty telegram.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

hah

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

I also took out "petting" – the most confusing verb ever. I'd hear Mormon leaders talk so much about how "petting" is a sin but they never explained it. I'm still not sure it's like handjobs or just steamy neck caresses.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

I think of petting as rubbing through like 9 layers of tweed and crinoline.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

"becoming a stumbling block"

Dans la Bot (seandalai), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

This list would make a great weekend.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

I would love a whole weekend of unholiness in masters.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

unholiness in US Masters
http://content.hollywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/tiger-woods.jpg

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

lol

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

greediness for filthy lucre
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00244/_Sex_Pistols_244801s.jpg

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

I don't understand why backbiting is included here when there's already a catch-all for sexual perversions.

i probably busted a nut when i was tossing her cookie salad (unregistered), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

MEMO

To: Young LDS church members
From: The Elders
In re: Petting

It has come to our attention recently that some younger LDS members are confused about the exact meaning of "petting" when used to describe acts between two humans of the opposite gender.

As an aid in assisting your understanding, we have prepared this handy guide.

Q: Is all petting done with the hands?
A: No. Petting is commonly done with the hands, but may engage almost any body part. The tongue, for instance, or the ball of the foot.

Q: Can I pet, or be petted, through my clothing?
A: Yes. The sensitivity of skin allows effective petting, even when clothing intervenes between the petter and the petted.

Q: Is all touching a form of petting?
A: No. God allows touching.

Q: How then, am I to distinguish between touching and petting?
A: Petting is not only deliberate, but repetitive, and progressive.

Q: Am I allowed to imagine petting someone or being petted by someone?
A: Not outside of marriage. Married couples are permitted to pet, by God's all-wise sufferance, provided they do not fall into the sin of Onan.

We sincerely hope this memo will save many young members of the church from falling into unwitting sin.

Aimless, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

That is some Poe's Law shit there, Aimless.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

Perhaps you are familiar with the anti-masturbation (with bonus homophobia) pamhplet To Young Me Only?

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

haha to young Men only
young me can't masturbate, she was a girl!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

my fave is stumbling block, tho also the one i often feel most guilty about

also "FROGiveness"!!!!

http://www.scottramsey.com.au/playground/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/frog2.jpg

I forgive u, ribbot

Mordy, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

xxp I can't help but hear that in the voice of Marlon Brando as Jor-El

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

display goldmine up in here

post-rock was most definitely the future of post-rock (Edward III), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

The factory and automatic release work on their own schedule.

lol

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

2 Nephi 26:20 And the Gentiles are lifted up in the pride of their eyes, and have stumbled, because of the greatness of their stumbling block, that they have built up many churches; nevertheless, they put down the power and miracles of God, and preach up unto themselves their own wisdom and their own learning, that they may get gain and grind upon the face of the poor.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

they have stumbled because of the greatness of their stumbling block! Maybe that's your problem, Mordy? (Note that "Gentile" here just means "non-Mormon," confusingly)

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

grinding upon the face of the poor is a pretty great turn of phrase

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

I think the being a stumbling block thing comes from Leviticus 19:14, "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind, but fear your God. I am the LORD."

Mordy, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

Obv you're the expert on Mormons, but that's the traditional meaning of being a stumbling block: That you're tripping people up and helping them to sin.

Mordy, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

oh well yeah BofM is just Bible fanfic – 2 Nephi is mostly just a rip of Isaiah with the occasional bonus "and it came to pass" in it, for flavor ––– I just like that they got the word stumble in there 2x, it is something your avg ILXor would apologize for. "I can't believe I said 'stumble' twice!"

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

grinding upon the face of the poor is a pretty great turn of phrase

― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, January 17, 2011 2:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah. I have a feeling some of them might welcome such activity.

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.next-gen.biz/files/imagecache/article_content_360x270/nextgen/Companies/Activision/tony_hawk_grind.jpg

i probably busted a nut when i was tossing her cookie salad (unregistered), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.homesteadsupply.net/coffee%20grinder.jpg
When I was a kid, looking at the Habitat catalogue, I always wondered what these were for.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

My housemate had one but I think she found it at a yard sale and it was so full of dust and weird shit I was too skeeved out to use it.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

<3 this thread, gonna have to vote for "disobedience to parents"

enfuque (Matt P), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

as in, if i wasn't already, i'd probably be in a mental institution

enfuque (Matt P), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

She said, "How'd you like to waste some time?"
And I could not resist when I saw little Nikki grinding upon the face of the poor

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

hahah

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

I don't see nothing wrong / with grinding upon the face of the poor

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Based on how many times I was told to "be reverent" as a kid, I am thinking "irreverence" is a p big fucking deal!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.latter-dayvillage.com/store/images/zazzle/i_can_be_reverent_poster-p228217374946793330vsu7_325.jpg

First GIS result for "be reverent" – try telling your Mormon friends to "be reverent" and see if they reflexively fold their arms! It worked on me long after I'd left the Mormon church ;_;

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

voted "slander"

bigdawg (crüt), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

I am freaked out by the coloring page from the Sunday School manual's lesson on reverence:

http://lds.org/images/Manuals/tchg-pix.nfo:o:2e15.jpg

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

It's got kind of a Man Ray vibe to it.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Hahaha Abbott isn't your family's dachshund trained to do a little prayer posture when you tell her to "be reverent" or did I just make that up in my mind?

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

oh my gosh I wish I knew!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

ok I think made that up then.

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

"be reverent" is Mormon for "stfu kid"

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

Q: Is all touching a form of petting?
A: No. God allows touching.

this made me smile.

voting filthy communication.

Ludo, Monday, 17 January 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

Voted becoming a stumbling block.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

Though clamor is high on my list

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

You need to do all of those most days, just to get by these days.

not_goodwin, Monday, 17 January 2011 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

voted "double-tongued talk" — a fresh spin on the classic sin of equivocating. "lack of understanding" obviously the biggest dud.

bernard snowy, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

despoiling

brownie, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

After minimal reflection I chose "fleshliness", based solely on its mouth-feel when spoken aloud.

Aimless, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

If filthy lucre is bad is it ok if you polish the coins?

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 04:54 (fourteen years ago)

I like that "inhospitality" is on this list – it is such a fairy tale sin! Like if you commit it, frogs will come from your mouth every time you speak.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)

I want tot thank everyone for humoring me while I always talk abt Mormon shit.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

Frankly, I love it. Genuinely curious and interested, am I

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 05:02 (fourteen years ago)

I tried convincing someone at work that the Mormon church is really the most boring and anesthetizing environment I have ever been part of, but they'd heard about all the "god is a space alien" stuff and couldn't be convinced it amounts to sitting still for 3 hours and hearing "read the scriptures and pray."

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

fleshliness ftr

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:44 (fourteen years ago)

cant believe u dropped hatred of god!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry black metallers ;_;

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

I read that as "Hatred of Golf" for some reason.

Time to change the contact lenses.

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

"incontinence" means sexual incontinence I wd imagine. also pretty classic

wait waht

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

Every sex perversion because it hints and an endless and intriguing world of perversity just waiting to be discovered.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

" Often used to refer to a lacking in moderation or self-control, especially related to sexual desire.[1] This concept is also called wantonness."

Although sexual incontinence as a phrase is putting some pretty gross images in my head.

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

Is it really an English-ism or only appears in old books? "Incontinence" meant banging all and sundry for a long time - centuries - before it meant "dodgy bladder".

I thought I lived in England (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

I googled "sexual incontinence" and got about three items into the results before deciding NO

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that's probably one for Safesearch = Extreme Prejudice

I thought I lived in England (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

So, will mr thread starter list out all the Sexual ones, or are ye gonna poll them on TMI?

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

"every sex perversion" is so way cheating

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

unless you have an open relationship...

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

and is there really no line-item for drunkenness, insobriety or what have you? only thing that might nibble at the sex perversions.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

unless you have an open relationship...

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fucking eskimos

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

Well here's the full list Mr. G:

Murder, adultery, theft, cursing, unholiness in masters, disobedience in servants, unfaithfulness, improvidence, hatred of God, disobedience to husbands, lack of natural affection, high-mindedness, flattery, lustfulness, infidelity, indiscretion, backbiting, whispering, lack of truth, striking, brawling, quarrelsomeness, unthankfulness, inhospitality, deceitfulness, irreverence, boasting, arrogance, pride, double-tongued talk, profanity, slander, corruptness, thievery, embezzlement, despoiling, covenant-breaking, incontinence, filthiness, ignobleness, filthy communications, impurity, foolishness, slothfulness, impatience, lack of understanding, unmercifulness, idolatry, blasphemy, denial of the Holy Ghost, Sabbath breaking, envy, jealousy, malice, maligning, vengefulness, implacability, bitterness, clamor, spite, defiling, reviling, evil speaking, provoking, greediness for filthy lucre, disobedience to parents, anger, hate, covetousness, bearing false witness, inventing evil things, fleshliness, heresy, presumptuousness, abomination, insatiable appetite, instability, ignorance, self-will, speaking evil of dignitaries, becoming a stumbling block; and in our modern language, masturbation, petting, fornication, adultery, homosexuality; and every sex perversion, every hidden and secret sin and all unholy and impure practices.

I remember asking my dad if S&M was a sin for married couples and he was like: "UH...."

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

every hidden and secret sin ftw

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

I am pretty sure nibbling at it counts as a sexual perversion

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

Presumptuousness ftw!

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

oh wai...

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

Where would we be without irreverence?

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 3 March 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

SEX WIN SHOCKA

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Thursday, 3 March 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)


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