Which stylesheet do you use in 2011?

I was partial to old.css at first, but now I use blueski-2.css for better readability.

i use old.css because it looks the least suspicious at work

not that it matters but I just noticed the bookmarking function in naus.css doesn't work

I might use naus.css from now on

standard

old

xp I think I fixed it once, but I don't think Keith is around anymore to put it up.

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kenan dark

makes it look like I'm reading some goth board but I hate looking at a blinding white light for long periods of time

test!!.css

Just old.

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I made a new one, swiss.css, and you can get it at Preferences → I want to change the way the site looks.... Not finished yet (the colours need sorting), but I'll do that in time. Hope you like it.

it looks p fancy! I quite like it!

think I still like blueski but this is p keen

I like it!!

Thanks guys!

I particularly like block quotes, which I was never happy with on the original stuff I did some years ago. I think they are better not being indented, but being highlighted in a different way.

I have been using kenan dark for a while now.

this is pretty dope!

The dark side of Kenan is well worth investigating. It is a king amongst stylesheets.

wow i love it

Thanks, harbl!

my only comment is that the header font (ILX NEW ANSWERS, or WHICH STYLESHEET DO YOU USE IN 2011? for this page) could be just a bit smaller. still, i like it and i'll probably keep using it as is. thanks keith!

and yeah, the block quotes look great!

Ha ha, it's massive size is a 'thing' I actually had it probably 50% bigger than it currently is earlier today! I like big type.

So maybe this is of interest:

+---------------------------------+----------+
| blueski-2.css                   |     1075 |
| style.css                       |      815 |
| old.css                         |      509 |
| new.css                         |       90 |
| kenan_dark_style.css            |       30 |
| iPhone.css                      |       28 |
| keith.css                       |       27 |
| kenan_style.css                 |       24 |
| caek.css                        |       23 |
| blueski.css                     |       22 |
| swiss.css                       |       21 |
| style2.css                      |       13 |
| style3.css                      |       12 |
| black.css                       |       12 |
| blueski-css3.css                |       10 |
| style-monochrome.css            |        7 |
| style-monochrome-no-borders.css |        5 |
| keith2.css                      |        4 |
| 3270.css                        |        3 |
| test.css                        |        1 |
+---------------------------------+----------+

Also, it looks different on Windows and OSX, because of the different installed fonts on these systems. I tried to make it good fonts irrespective, but it does mean they are possibly quite different. Windows uses Franklin Gothic Book, but OSX looks like this:

http://i48.tinypic.com/scg7sx.png

looks nice but is too big for me @ 1024x768, sticking with kenan dark

Quite right, it wasn't really designed with low res in mind although the above picture is massive because it was taken from a Retina display.

Trying out swiss.css, and I'm not seeing any difference between clicked and unclicked links. Is there nothing in the sheet for that?

Swiss is cool! A little softer on the eyes without losing the basic clarity and punchiness of ILX. Agreed that the thread title (and "Site New Answers") could be much smaller, and I would at least slightly shrink the various things in the "Add a Post" box - no way does "Display Name: whoever" need to be so big....

Could maybe also fold the show/hide formatting help option into the Add a Post box, as another button next to "Convert Simple HTML to BBcode"? Just a thought.

Also wonder if something more dreamy and Wayne's World Flashback-y could come in with the "Three Years Pass..." breaks between revives, now that you have these gradients and soft tones. Not sure what exactly, but the current version seems a little harsh relative to the overall swiss chill factor.

Swiss is probably the most tempting non-old.css stylesheet I've seen, but I'm gonna keep it old-school.

Yeah, I might eventually go back to old.css too. Trying to give this one a good shake though.

Am I right that italicized text is bigger?

Yes indeed, italicised text is bigger. I read that in a typography book somewhere that it's better to have italicised text 1pt larger than the surrounding text.

Huh! Not sure how I feel about that - - - it kinda changes the way a post reads or is emphasized, for me at least. But interesting.

Swiss

Great chocolate

And cool stylesheet!

Thankyou!

Doctor, yes I thought it was odd when I read it, but I decided to try it and I have got to like it. It's certainly a bit odd, I mean, you'd think that type designers would just make their italicised versions a bit bigger but then there you are. The point the book made was that italics tend to look smaller at the same point size, so you get the same odd feeling of it not flowing so well. All very strange.

i'm gonna keep this one for a while, i dig it

still curious about the clicked/unclicked links issue

Yes, I'm looking at that. It's quite tricky in that I'm trying to get an answer that lets you be able to tell, but doesn't make the screen look messy - it can be a bit of information overload when half the things on the page are one colour and half the other. It's not easy getting something that's close enough to look okay but different enough such that you can tell.

I'll stick something in, in a minute, but I may not leave it that way - not sure it works particularly well.

Okay, I think I may have the answer. Only applies to threads on the new answers page, which makes things a bit tidier and makes them the same colour as the headings.

Looks great, thanks!

I added in a page to show you who's doing what. You can get it from the bottom of the front page (Theme Statistics):

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Pages/stylesheet-popularity.jsp

hey keith, question about the new style--

when you try to post something but other ppl have posted in the thread while you were typing, the page that shows their messages seems to be displaying their message text in the blue color, which implies that their messages are links. am i wrong about this? was it intentional? thanks!

No, that's just a balls up. I'll sort it out tomorrow. Thanks for letting me know.

np! thanks again.

kenan_style.css	23

22 other people and I know what's what.

There'll probably be a few balls ups in there in esoteric places that I didn't notice, because I did this one completely from scratch; it wasn't a modification of what existed already, so I'll sort them out as they pop up - I do want to get this one perfect though (whatever that means).

Also, this doesn't look exactly like old ILX (it couldn't really as there are more functions nowadays). I think what I was aiming at was roughly the same style - just text, but just removing the bits that were just functions of it being how browsers rendered HTML by default back then. Trying to be a bit more ordered without losing the basic "just a bunch of text" thing.

xp

im sure i will stick with this just long enough to never remember what i used to use and then try css3 and be convinced that wasnt it, which is what happened to me the last time i did this

submit post and convert buttons seem comically large to me as well

oh weird, when you xpost in this the previous post turns into a link or something wtf? am i just noticing this for the first time because its link colored (and adds underline when moused over) or is that a thing thats always been like that

I do like Swiss, but I never did resolve my issues with Helvetica (a version of Helvetica that I have installed for work) not displaying properly in Chrome.

Yeah I'm going to change the buttons. They're just default browser buttons. Actually, I've already changed them, but they're still not very good, so will work on them more.

xp

regretting not clicking on the xpost now, it might have taken me to some magical uberilx

Yeah that xpost bug has been there for years. It's because I forgot to type a ">" in 2006 once.

ha i think i never noticed it before because css3 has it in red or something right, which is not the color links are goddamnit

quoted text in a bigger font size is really disorienting to me

quoted text in a bigger font size is really disorienting to me

― My Chemical Romance did 9/11 (jjjusten), Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:00 AM (0 seconds ago)

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wait now it isnt wtf

Italicised? Yeah that's because I made this one from swiss.css as the starting point. I read that in a typography book - if you have 12pt normal, italics look smaller, so you should have 13pt italics. I actually really like it.

Hello there Hello there Hello there.

hey keith while youre here is there any way to get the original glyloop.mp3 onto ilx and back into http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=60&threadid=2955

the one on there now is way too slow and doesnt sync with the gifs

heres the original:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9627011/glyloop.mp3

lol

this is really important

really really really important

I understand that, but some things just take time.

this post was the one that weirded me out, maybe something else happened there: what is going on in your musical life

Yeah that is weird. It's not the bigger size, it's the letter spacing on the italics, I think. I'll have a look, but will be tomorrow now.

Took a gander, but I was disoriented by visited links being the same color as plaintext. :-|

AAAARRGGH! What's happened? How do I change it back? I can't even remember what my stylesheet was, but it's changed and it looks HORRIBLE!

blueski-2.css

can someone make one that looks like an excel spreadsheet

thanks Keith!

Yeah thanks!

yeah mine changed all of the sudden too and I hate it it looks like a bad MFA design project

keef, quirk i have noticed - in the swiss stylesheets i cannot see the numbers at the end of each line in this post: POLLy Jean Harvey - The PJ Harvey results thread

can see them fine in e.g. blueski. am using google's "chrome" internet browser.

actually, i like what you have done here, with blueski3

per discussion over on (still modless) ILP: is old.css still the stylesheet with the largest image display?

Not sure I follow, Roberto - can you post what does show on the others and what doesn't on Swiss? Will take a look and see if I can sort at some point.

Cheers.

http://i.imgur.com/QYCAjo2.jpg

Thanks. Weird though - works fine for me. Tried both Swiss and SwissHelvetica.

Although on a Mac - you're on Windows I think (because of the Franklin Gothic). Not that it really ought to make any kind of difference, but can anyone else on Windows see the same thing?

yep windows

Using the page here
POLLy Jean Harvey - The PJ Harvey results thread

Chrome (Version 26.0.1410.64 m)
   swiss.css - numbers are missing
   swisshelvetica.css - numbers are missing
IE9 (Version 9.0.8112.16421 64-bit Edition)
   swiss.css - numbers are there
   swisshelvetica.css - numbers are there
Firefox (20.0.1)
   swiss.css - numbers are there
   swisshelvetica.css - numbers are there

(Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit version)

Whoa - thanks for the comprehensive response. How weird though.

Not sure there's anything I can do about it. It's just a paragraph... Not a stylesheet thing. Guessing there's some bug in Windows Chrome that's screwing up at first sign of a tab character.

Hang on a sec and I can try it in Win 8...

Chrome (Version 26.0.1410.64 m)
   swiss.css - numbers are missing
   swisshelvetica.css - numbers are missing
IE10 (10.0.9200.16540)
   swiss.css - numbers are there
   swisshelvetica.css - numbers are there

Win 8 (64 bit)

Thanks again, looks like a Chrome (and maybe webkit) issue on Windows.

crazy old chrome

to be clear, i personally am not fussed, i like swiss but i am enjoying it here on blueski3, so i am not requesting any remedial actions for my own sake, i was just bringing this to the attention on the proper authorities like a responsible citizen

No it's fine... Just don't know what to do about it, as it's very unclear why it's happening!

crimsonhexagon.css is really nice not sure how long its been up but i just noticed it today

'Times New Roman', serif

^ yo what up stet

im back to newold after a lengthy fling with crimsonhexagon

kenan dark

― iatee, Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:47 PM (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink

i use this, and it is the style most similar to dark mode on zing touch

therefore it is the best

i have dark mode on almost everything else i can on my computer but i am so committed to old.css that i leave it blinding white

'Times New Roman', serif

^ yo what up stet