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Are you cynical? What is it exactly?

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Do you find you exaggerate small things in your head to the point where they seem massively daunting and major?

I can't stop doing this with my job, normally I don't worry about anything (I made a resolution when I was about 11, oddly) but now I keep just thinking these bastards are paying me like shit, treating me like shit, and eliminating any desire I have to do anything but laze around in my freetime. Not only are they fucking taking most of my week, getting me up insanely early, they're also taking my drive to do anything constructive in my free time. I realise this is as much to do with my own laziness as them but that's not really a constructive solution.

In general do you find you start thinking about how much you hate someone/some situation/opinion and then by the time your crazy imagination has finished you really fucking loathe them/it. It doesn't even have to be rational, just a general misjudgement or unfounded dislike for all sorts of things.

As a further aside, how many of you hate your jobs, all this summer job teaches me is the absolute burning necessity in me to do what I want career-wise, because the effect that this fucking shit seems to have on my general personality and humour seems radical and pretty undesirable.

― Ronan, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(this puts London into perspective aswell I guess but then perhaps I'm overanalysing my tendency to exaggerate also, I don't know)

Also especially interested in people, how harsh a judge are you? With friendships? With boyfriend/girlfriend situations?

― Ronan, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Also with the laziness throw in a childish attitude to authority, the sum of my aspirations in the job is telling this one manager to fuck off on the day I walk out of his stinking swetrol station.

― Ronan, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

This isn't cynicism, it's just being pissed off.

― N., Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Many people (esp. those with somewhat well-to-do parents who valued education) suffer from 'permanent record' syndrome, fear of doing something bad cuz'll it'll be written down forever and you won't get into college. Fuck that, there is none. Tell your boss to fuck off, slap him around a bit, maybe blow up his house with him in it, etc. It doesn't matter, it's only a job! Alternately, laugh at all the unfortunates around you who will be there forever, and more tragicomic yet, have this idea that they won't be

― dave q, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I know N. I just didn't really expand the thread to fit the title in the end cos I decided it would be too long winded and personal.

― Ronan, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I rephrase all this as "if you had a choice between feeling vaguely cranky 7 days a week at various intervals or feeling absolutely top of the fucking world from friday to sunday in anticipation, during and after your night out but then angry and bored and useless all week which would you choose". Basically I'm saying is it better to have the massive swing or the steady dullness?

― Ronan, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you find you exaggerate small things in your head to the point where they seem massively daunting and major?

yes i do do this. it takes me a helluva long time to get started on anything that isn't a hobby, especially if it has a deadline. and i am a pretty harsh judge of people too and i'm torn between thinking i should be more laid back about people, but at the same time hatred is a useful defense mechanism. why would you want to be friends with someone if you know that they are gonna hurt you?

― di, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i still don't see what being cynical has to do with this. do you mean it like the vague dullness is due to cynicism towards the up 'n' down swing life? cos i feel like that all the time. but like all cynics i see it as realism; I'd rather have the reality of the vague dullness (yr words not mine)than being like those deluded muppets who try so hard to forget their lives on weekends and then wake up on mon morn and think "gosh life is shit." at least vaguedullness = awareness = some sort of platform to build on = hope

it is 3am why am i blurting this shkit?

― Bob Zemko, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

oops vague dullness not yr words at all

― Bob Zemko, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

In general do you find you start thinking about how much you hate someone/some situation/opinion and then by the time your crazy imagination has finished you really fucking loathe them/it. It doesn't even have to be rational, just a general misjudgement or unfounded dislike for all sorts of things. A lot of the time I'll do this in my head when I'm really pissed off but ususally after I have a break and /or some time to rationally think about the person or situation I realize that it really isn't all that bad..Ronan take a break and cool off,go out and do something fun tonight :)

― brg30, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it is kind of like cynicism when you start clinging to hating something and you want to give it up because it's making you feel worse than the object of your hatred does through its own actions but you can't.

― martika, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread should be about laziness. I like that. laziness is cool. but it's sometimes very hard to do. I like it because it can get on other ppl's nerves. they hate it when others are lazy.

― erik, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm a professional cynic, but my hearts not in it

― damon, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan - come back to London.

Okay I know you can't, but shit as it is, it's only a summer job. You will get away. Find all the bile on the call centre thread and feel comforted that other people have supported themselves in equally horrible ways. Feel lucky that at least you can get away. Think about your website, do something for that. Send some ideas to Gavin. Think of the money if nothing else.

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan - this is possibly the most important lesson you will ever learn from work. All work is shit, but some work is really, really shit. You have an end in sight and you will also have a nadir that you can compare everything else to. That extra half hour knocking some words together though can really help.

I rather like my job but sdoesn't mean I want to come in in the morning.

And to answer your question I just do the same stuff over and over again. I'm cyclical.

― Pete, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the thing here is that you're all right, but that's what pisses me off, other people can do jobs they hate and not moan about them and put themselves in fucking horrible humour. I feel like a spoiled child or something, which I probably am anyway.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

No Ro, it's fine. I still feel bitter and resentful of my time spent telemarketing, of my time spent working in BHS cafe. I can remember terrible boredom of sitting behind the till in a Co Op (random manager quote: "If I had hair your colour Anna I'd dye it.").

Pete is right. It makes you appreciate having a job you like.

Count the days.

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I rather like my job but sdoesn't mean I want to come in in the morning. And to answer your question I just do the same stuff over and over again. I'm cyclical.

Pretty much my fate! But thankfully I don't have to talk to many people during the course of the day aside from my brilliantly evil and funny coworkers.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I empathise with your 'out of london for the summer blues'. I cant even remember how much a travelcard is, or anything! (becomes reely over dramatic)

― chris, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

After a lengthy conversation last night with mate in New York via msn, I am going job hunting today in record shops, we'll see what happens but it seems a good idea.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)


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