I think it's time now to talk abt striped shirts, especially as they're coming back in diagonal striped shape

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I like the vertical ons with broad stripes. the broader the better. I have a shirt with horizontal red and blue stripes some small some broad but all over. I think it's a kid thing from the 60s.

the verticals some are preppy some pretty. I think the diagonals are new at least over here. I have seen some tough guys wearing it. they look stupid in it. but I saw someone praying in the church who looked gorgeous.

erik, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

diagonally diabolically gorgeous answers

erik, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

People who wear striped shirts with non-stripey collars and cuffs (often in a contrasting colour) should be shot on sight.

Discuss.

Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, that's the first diabolical one

erik, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I call those striped shirts with white collar'n'cuffs 'liberal shirts.' They are the sperm of the devil.

(Semi-)broad (semi-)multi-coloured stripes = good. I may even move into 'em myself soon (I have my eye(s) on one).

Also, checks seem to be making a foray onto the scene as well.

I'm not sure I have the nerve to wear a diagonally-striped shirt.

Tim Bateman, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I find the stripy shirts with white collars and cuffs very alluring on the right person and consider them to be pleasant things.

I have stripy shirts. One is brown and one is green. They are perhaps the only brown and green things I own, other than the brown trouser I bought the same day that I thought were green. They have many very slender stripes of varying shades. They are good but perhaps a year out of trend which is probably why they were reduced from $99 to $60. I have not worn them yet.

toraneko, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

White collars on non white shirts used to mean I AM POOR. Way back before washing machines collrs and cuffs were seperate and would be washed more often than the shirt itself but not having them match meant you were too poor to haveenough shirts and collars.

And somehow in the 80's it ironically meant "I am an investment banker and I want you to know I have lots of money".

Not sure what it means now - I think they may just be trendy again under the 20 year rule. Of course being a product of the 80's I can't stand them.

Winkelmann, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When I see mis-matched collars, the first thing I think is "Canary Wharf tosser."

The next thing is "physical violence required."

Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*sobs*-(like someone who has found their long lost siblings) I truly despise anyone in those shirts too. FUCK. For me I think its some highh school jock asshole thing. I fear to look down to see if there are boat shoes involved.*wince*

jeskam, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ok Ive stopped crying. I think the diagonal stripe sounds flash, I saw it on some stocking socks in yellow and black and that was cool and hazardous.warning warning 'she got legs she knows how to use em'kinda thing.
just as long as there are 2 sleeves involved in this diagonal shirt thing and no lycra..its ok

j, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

those shirts that have a white collar but the rest of the shirt is a different colour

gareth, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

boat shoes are still a mark of the devil though.

nicole, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, the devil having cloven hooves and all, he wishes to mock everyone's feet accordingly.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...
I don't like the stripes that are on a diagonal. Have we waited out this trend?

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I suspect that we have. Although it is possible that they might start appearing in hip-hop videos next week, which spells doom for the human race, believe you me.

Millar (Millar), Sunday, 27 April 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.poster.net/aguilera-christina/aguilera-christina-photo-christina-aguilera-and-lil-kim-6203224.jpg

lil' kim rocking the diagonal striped belt... are we done for?

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 27 April 2003 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.poster.net/aguilera-christina/aguilera-christina-photo-christina-aguilera-and-lil-kim-6203224.jpg

lil' kim rocking the diagonal striped belt... are we done for?

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 27 April 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

wow
all the clothes threads seem to come back in the new answers list.
socks, bikini's, jel--'s short sleeves, shirts, belts.

is ILE going retro all over?

erik, Sunday, 27 April 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

all the clothes threads seem to come back in the new answers list

i wonder *who* could be responsible?

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, I used to wear nothing but striped shirts in HS (right, jaymc?). They were usu some bright colors and my friend would call them 'edible shirts'. He's weird.

buttch (Oops), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary, did you win the lottery? You have shopped so much lately. Anyway, stripes are really a bit rub in general, except on boatneck tops because then it looks a bit French. You should buy one of those and wear them with a full-ish skirt and a scarf around your neck. That'd be really good.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I know -- I feel like such a vulgar American. It just seems like the more you shop, the more you need.

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I blame Patrick Bateman.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm writing an entire 10pg or so essay on Patrick Bateman right now! Not literally right now but will have to in a few minutes, but I think I want ice cream and some new shoes first.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, I'll want to read that.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll distribute copies!

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

we all want ice cream and new shoes.


I don't like striped shirts, I think when people wear them out it looks like they bought it thinking "this will be great to wear out". I am getting sick of shirts, they are too tight.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I have a copy please too Ally, if it's available electronically?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a striped shirt, it's white, yellow and red. It's totally garish, but I kinda like it.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan, I will buy you ice cream and new shoes, def. What flavor do you like and what size do you wear? You will have to come to NYC to retrieve though.

Martin, you can def. have a copy! I will availablize it.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I like mad flavour.


Size shoe:10.

i will start saving my cents.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks, Ally!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, my pet peeve about striped shirts, whether they are jersey or broadcloth, is where the stripes are just printed on instead of being woven into the fabric.

I think my position on diagonal stripes is as follows

asymmetrical (diagonals going one way: indifferent to good
symmetrical (like where the diagonals meet in the middle like a herringbone, even when perfectly matched): yuck

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Horizontally striped shirts are just so ugly. I can't remember seeing one I ever liked. They remind me of the eighties in a bad way.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

when i started this thread august last year that was just the beginneing of the diagonal shirt trend. it's diagonal overkill now. my eyes hurt like when you watch a badly transmitted TV channel.

Erik, Sunday, 27 April 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

striped shirts are great. I don't like the diagonal ones due to eye-watering probs. I do have one but its very discreet white-on-white. Shirts don't have to be too tight, evil clothes designers just make them that way. I saw the most lovely shirt last weekend, it was grey with black stripes and a high frilled collar, a fitted waist and sleeves that gathered to a frilled cuff. It was wonderful but too fucking tight and so I could not buy it. This still rankles.

isadora (isadora), Sunday, 27 April 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

diagonal striped shirts are way better than horizontal and vertical because they're more interesting. i have one but i hardly ever wear it because it is so amazingly slutty. i do not know many people who wear the.

Maria (Maria), Sunday, 27 April 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Amazingly slutty = I am interested in purchasing this shirt.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Stripey to thread! And there are too such things as good horizontally-striped shirts (but the stripes should be thin).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

This trend, which I am somehow unaware of, is not one-sixty-seventh as bad as the newsieboycap trend that is sooo Mitsubishi-commercialish-2002 AND SHOULD GO AWAY ALREADY. KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vic, Monday, 28 April 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

(look Tarquin! -- A thread just for us ...) :)

As you can probably tell by my name, I do like my stripey shirts. I have dozens of them, and have worn stripes since I was a little kid. I'm sort of a collector of stripes -- but since there are so many out there, I've learned to be choosey (trends be damned!). Here's my cheat sheet :

1) horizontal stripes on jersey knit --
these are my favorites, but only in a stripe-height of say, 2 cms or less, and only in colors that actually go together. The classiest versions usually have tone-to-tone matching (tan and brown, say) -- but the most cheerful are always bright white w/primaries or pastels. Now about size : if the stripes are any larger than 2cm I avoid them -- I look like a convict! However, if these stripes are seperated by smaller stripes (a la Brady boys or vintage surf-wear), that's fine coz it breaks up the "prison bars" effect. On those types of shirts, I think the more colors the better.

2) vertical stripes on "dress" fabrics --
in general, these look better on proper button-down shirts than on casual shirts. And I think the stripes should be small, small, small ("pin stripes", no larger) unless you want to look like a Juventus fan! Which is fine if you actually ARE a Juventus fan, mind. I avoid vertical stripes on knits because they look painted on, and they get distorted whenever I move, which makes me look distorted too, and gives other people headaches if they have to look at me for a while.

3) diagonal stripes --
these are probably best left to op-art galleries, gas stations and psych rock bands, but when I get them, I keep the stripes small and I try to be sure that they don't "point" to anything that I don't want to draw attention to.[The way haute couture deals with the diagonal stripe issue is to put only one part of a shirt(the patch pocket, say) in diagonal stripes, and then to put the rest in a similar-color solid. This is great because it is both interesting and restful on the eyes -- but I leave that look on the catwalk, coz all the knock-off versions make me look like a court jester!]

misc tidbits --
oddly enough, I find that the less fitted the shirt is, the better it will look (this is because fitting distorts the lines, making the body look distorted, too). So all during the ultra-tight "baby-t-shirt" phase of the 90s, I bought my stripes in the men's section instead of the women's section -- because the cut was less fitted for men, and therefore less distorted. (Stripes is one of the few truely unisex patterns out there, so feel free to range all over the department store in persuit of a good one). I wear my stripes with solids. Stripes with stripes is overkill. And yes, I have to agree, printed-on stripes just aren't as nice as yarn-dyed stripes (How can you tell the difference? Turn your shirt inside out. If the stripes are as dark on the inside as they are on the outside, it's yarn-dyed. If you can't see the stripes at all on the inside, it's printed-on.)

Anyways, that's my stripey philosophy in a nutshell. Well, maybe it's a bit big for a nutshell ... ;)

stripey, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

That was one of the most OTM posts I have ever read with respect to its thread topic.

Yesterday I saw a man walking up Madison Ave. wearing a button-down shirt with pink, navy and white stripes going diagonally from upper left to bottom right, including the placket. It seemed like the kind of shirt about which someone might say, "That shirt looks so nice-- every time you wear it!"

Today I am wearing my pink, green and white striped button-down from 1986 again. Mmm . . . extra-heavy starch.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Horizontally striped shirts are just so ugly.

Argh, I meant vertical stripes! Someone who mixes up vertical with horizontal shouldn't be allowed an opinion on shirts to begin with.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Fret not! But I was worried there!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)


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