india vs china

this is about food, right? i choose india

DUMPLINGS!

dumplings

for food, china.
for future rulers of the world, china again.

were it not for my increasingly delicate stomach, i'd go with India as far as food goes. these days, however, i eat Chinese b/c DUMPLINGS! and wonton/egg drop soup are easier on said delicate stomach.

i'll take a pass on who's going to be the future ruler of the world. i'm inclined to go w/ India, but that may be b/c (a) innate contrarianism (what with all the talk about "China is the future ruler of the world"); (b) India (and offshoring to India) has a MUCH bigger daily impact in my line of work than China does; and (c) that India is more chaotic politically and more laissez-faire economically probably means that they may survive an economic shock better than China will. officially, though, that may all be horseshit and FWIW i'm putting my money on Latin America becoming the next economic monster.

i prefer Chinese culture to Indian culture, so i'll vote for China.

i vote for spelling bee winners, mindy kaling, yoga, and spicy food.

can i vote for bhutan and its "gross national happiness" indicator?

this is about food, right? i choose india

― DINPLINGS! (some dude), Monday, 14 February 2011 05:38 (9 hours ago)

countries themselves

or 'who would win a war' idk

india would use its better food to win the war

via chili grenades

http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/theappetizer/archive/2010/03/24/food-fight-india-unveils-its-new-anti-insurgency-weapon-160-hot-peppers.aspx

Indian food over Chinese any day. Also I want to visit India more. Also Gandhi>>>>>>>>>>Mao.

However, Kung Fu movies>>>>>>Bollywood musicals.

the idea of china is better than the idea of india

india, baby

or 'who would win a war' idk

― the philosopher named after a whiskey (nakhchivan), Monday, February 14, 2011 10:17 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

the indian air force is really good and actually beat the USA in war games a few years back

ya but china just made an f-22 clone which they should have production ready in a few years whereas the russian/chinese stealth fighter is still in development

the real answer to 'who would win in a war' would of cause be everyone who gets to see a full on nuclear war in glorious high-definition without themselves being vapourized

my ttly uninformed opinion is that the chinese military is seriously overrated

I recall reading somewhere that discipline in the Indian army is extraordinarily good.

tittily informed

I am having all kinds of trouble with this one. I view it through the lens of China's utter pragmatism vs. India's chaotic idealism. What do you get when you cross India with China? A Zen Buddhist. I don't want to give up the one in order to get the other.

(holds gun to his own head)

I voted India.

China

Will cheat by treating this as a poll between two ideas, since I've never visited either country.

Still can't decide.

I choose the pluralistic democracy founded by an ascetic, non-violent saint. also their food is better

never been to China. been to India twice

and will go again, hopefully

Cd pick apart all of these characterizations of each country tho, so still can't decide.

Will cheat by treating this as a poll between two ideas, since I've never visited either country.

― Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:09 (15 minutes ago)

same

my objective criterion is that indian men are hotter

Haven't China got a million infantry alone?

Also, let me just find it...

Why would China be the more popular pick for 'future ruler of the world'? More innovation and entrepreneurship comes out of India, right?

'the idea of' - china
food - china
conventional war - india? maybe, idk
hotties - china prob
ppl - india cuz i know more of them (via former colonial diaspora)
cats - china

India has better bitter melons too.

What does 'the idea of China' mean here?

Here it is,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/19/huangyangtan_mystery/

(Because, like, the idea of a pluralistic democracy with Fabian roots sounds better to me than the idea of a totalitarian People's Republic.)
xpost

Chinese food kicks ass though.

Why would China be the more popular pick for 'future ruler of the world'? More innovation and entrepreneurship comes out of India, right?

probably all of the media attention on China and its growing economy right now. and people tend to think of India more in terms of offshoring than innovation.

off topic, but wow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

if true?

What does 'the idea of China' mean here?

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:38

the very name! and its associations re 'cradle of civilizations', intellectual lineage from antiquity, 'the celestial empire'

india could claim similar accolades, but as an idea (and insofar as that begets an actual history....) it seems more diffuse and contested

india as an actual place is of course rather more appealing -- a fractious but more-or-less working democracy vs the odious ccp

i think it's pretty obvious that Gandhi and Nehru are more appealing aspirational leaders than Mao and Deng Xiaoping.

xpost

my objective criterion is that indian men are hotter

― Example: Hell (Matt P), Monday, February 14, 2011 7:26 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

India has hotter women too IMO.

^^^yes

probably all of the media attention on China and its growing economy right now. and people tend to think of India more in terms of offshoring than innovation.

― Poontang Clan Ain't Nothin' ta ... (Eisbaer), Monday, February 14, 2011 2:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

all that growth is gonna fuck them eventually obv

it kind of already is...?

DUMPLINGS!!

― ice cr?m, Monday, February 14, 2011 12:41 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

DUMPLINGS!

― markers, Monday, February 14, 2011 12:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

vs. naan

Whatever - even the best DUMPLINGS! can't make up for the shittiness of what gets passed off around here as "Chinese" food.

India because I find it fascinating and would rather go there to visit.

http://manofroma.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/aishwarya-rai.jpghttp://cnreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/zhang-ziyi.jpg

AR is so unbelievably beautiful.

zhang ziyi = nice face but too skinny (via "rating" chix)

The only truly inedible Indian I can recall visiting in the UK was in Abergavenny.

S'pose it's sort of easy to vote India if you're British. Also hard to warm to China with the Communists still in control.

Has anyone been to both Mumbai and Hong Kong? Which is better? And how about Delhi vs Beijing?

as someone who's eaten extensively in china, and chinatowns in new york city and philadelphia, I can say that I've only had really good Chinese food at exactly one restaurant in the US that was comparable to even a low-to-mid level in China

but IANAF maybe SS would have differing opinions

I've eaten Indian food in several different countries (not including India), and it has been quite different in every one. Indian food in Australia is weird. Reckon the closest I've got to 'authentic' Indian is in Malaysia. It's quite famous that the anglo-Indian curry is distinct from what you would find on the subcontinent.

... doesn't mean it isn't good though!

Don't get me wrong, I love Anglo-Indian food!

Along with UK dance music, it's one of the key triumphs of multiculturalism.

Indeed, tho uncomfortable with pretext "Anglo-"

prefix that is, not pretext!

There's nothing wrong with the pretext "Anglo" - Anglicised Indian food is what it is.

In England, yes

But then I suppose you have the Anglo-Irish Agreement which, curiously given the history of the various parties involved, no-one objected to

There is a very wide range of cuisines in India, obv, and what we get in restaurants here tends to reflect a limited subset of North Indian food. In my limited experience, however, the naan, biryani, etc that you get in medium-level restaurants in Canada and the parts of the US I've been to are very similar to the naan and biryani that you get in restaurants in Mumbai.

The South Indian food from this restaurant is certainly authentic. The range of food that you can get in South India is definitely wider than what our restaurants represent though, which is probably a necessity given the availability of ingredients. (In any case, the restaurants here tend to be more authentic than anything I cook so I don't get too worked up over it.)

I went to an Indian restaurant in Liverpool. It wasn't bad but it was expensive as hell. WTF?

as someone who's eaten extensively in china, and chinatowns in new york city and philadelphia, I can say that I've only had really good Chinese food at exactly one restaurant in the US that was comparable to even a low-to-mid level in China

but IANAF maybe SS would have differing opinions

― dayo, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:43 (1 hour ago)

damn

i'd guess you can get good chinese food in london but it won't be in chinatown

My fave two Chineses in London are both Schezuan and neither are in Chinatown.

which are they perchance

dayo, you ever been to Flushing, Queens?

Chili Cool in Russel Square and Gourmet San in Bethnal Green (xpost)

I would like someone to give me a real reason why good (ethnic food x) can't be made/found in america. like, in aforementioned flushing the overwhelming majority of chinese/korean food is going to be produced/consumed by immigrants and their first-gen children. (as is the case for other food in queens.) is it something about the produce? does new york water make everything taste like thin-crust pizza?

When Indian food in the UK is bad, every dish tastes like coconut milk or tomato soup.

unfair for 99% of us to compare based on food. dismissing chinese food based on what gets served as chinese food outside of china would be like dismissing italian food because of sbarro and chef boy-ar-dee.

as someone who's eaten extensively in china, and chinatowns in new york city and philadelphia, I can say that I've only had really good Chinese food at exactly one restaurant in the US that was comparable to even a low-to-mid level in China

― dayo, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:43 (1 hour ago)

let me guess, you write yelp reviews

that's uncalled for

so blatantly india

nobody has answered my question

ok I will.
I will not like to give you a real reason why.

the Indian food I've had on Devon in Chicago (the stretch of "authentic" Indian restaurants in the city) doesn't taste significantly different to me from the food I ate living in New Delhi for four years. but i am no "supertaster," i'm just a guy who eats food several times a day.

now i sound like a yelp reviewer

1 funny 2 cool 4 you

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dayo, you ever been to Flushing, Queens?

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah but only a few times, I ate sushi at a korean place and it was good

My fave two Chineses in London are both Schezuan and neither are in Chinatown.

― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

szechuan btw! or sichuan according to modern pinyin. and yeah the one dope chinese restaurant I've been to in the states was sichuan style. unfortunately, the last report I got from my folks was that they had closed due to lack of business and were scheduled to reopen in philly chinatown, presumably with a menu altered more towards the taste of the locals.

sund4r makes a good point upthread - that diasporic ethnic cuisine is prob based on whatever region the immigrants came from. so it's not very likely until recently that you would be able to find decent sichuan food outside of sichuan, since not many immigrants came from sichuan! idk

schezuan is the new sino-teutonic fusion scene that's making waves in london's yelp community

schezuan makes a pretty good google search!

from what I know about chinese immigration to america, the up until like the 90s most of the immigrants were from guangdong (taishan esp.) and fujian

guangdong (canton) cuisine imo is nice when you have quality fresh ingredients, but it doesn't 'cook down' well to make cheap fare

I grew up northern chinese food which relies heavily on in-your-face sauces and makes for more satisfying cheap food

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4886424175_24bb15aa53.jpg

RIP yangtze river restaurant :(

There's a N.Chinese Islamic 火鍋 restaurant in SF that is very off the beaten path but always packed with regulars. It's kinda rare for SF cuz of the heavy Guangdong majority of culture/immigration.

that sounds delightful

India for me, thanks - better food, better music, native languages more pleasant to the ear. (OK, to WESTERN ears.)(OK, to MY ears.)

is china super corrupt

because india is

i like how indian people speaka da english more than how chinese people do

but lookit these fukkin noodles
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2538192901_efe2243343.jpg?v=0

omg this hasn't been posted here yet ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtbyVFLl_7U

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glad that's settled then

If you trace the influence each has had on the other, India's influence on China has been much greater than China's influence on India.

rip china

u were good, but not not good enough