What's your favourite 2Unlimited song?

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The debate is happily raging in the office at the moment. Personally I find No Limits to be too obvious, and have a passing affection for Tribal Dance after I somehow won a CD single of it in a Radio Nottingham competition in the early nineties...

― Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Faces... different faces.... some are laughing some are crying. Or was that Ace of Base?

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Faces Faces Joy and Pain!

"No Limits" is the obvious answer yes but also quite possibly the right one. Likeliest challengers - "The Workaholic" or "Get Ready For This".

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

TWILGIHT ZONE (although sometimes the right answer is "Tribal Dance")

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

get ready for this. easy. i remember a TOTP performance of Twilight Zone that had me in stitches. it was in one of TOTP's ill- advised "you must do it live" era, and singer was k-flat. really really incredibly bad. marvellous

― Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex! Hello, you've found my board. Or did I give you the URL?

This is Alex. He's lovely and a very good friend of mine from university.

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Flattery will get you nowhere...

Actually, dear, I found this place ages ago after Dr Offbeat put me on to I Love Music.

I've just never been arsed to post here till yesterday. Oh, and the Guardian boards are just going too far up themselves to be fun any more....

― Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

You've watched me spout rubbish and lurked and NOT SAID. (Don't call me 'dear' you patronsing thing).

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

You've watched me spout rubbish and lurked and NOT SAID. (Don't call me 'dear' you patronising thing).

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I could say something about watching you spout rubbish and not saying anything for five years, but that'd be mean. :-)

2Unlimited song?

― Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Spouted rubbish twice even! Welcome Alex. There are a number of other Alexs (Alex in NYC, Alex T, Alex in Mainhattan, Alex in SF), so you must identify yourself from here on it. ;-)

2 Unlimited...I know I must have heard the song Dan mentions, but I am not recalling it.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry thread hijak, I was surprised.

Get Ready For This, no question.

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

No Limits! Without question or doubt it's No Limits. "techno techno techno techno"=the world is forever plunged into shocking misunderstanding of what type of music this is.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

You are WRONG Fitzgerald, JUST PLAIN WRONG.

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to confess that, while messing around on the local hospital radio station as a yoof, a mate and I used to piss ourselves laughing after fading down random easy listening songs requested by the OAP ward and shouting "TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO" over them...

We didn't last long.

― Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan is completely correct in that with one song the meaning of a whole genre was definitively changed ('misunderstanding' my arse). It's like if in the middle of "Live Forever" Liam had yelled "indie indie indie indie".

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

People, people, for heaven's sake, the bestest ever is...

'LET THE BEAT CONTROL YOUR BODY'!

Or it was 'No Limit'. Or 'Maximum Overdrive'. One of them anyway.
They tried a comeback of sorts about five years ago except it was Anita Dells and some blonde girl instead of Ray ("tribul dey-ence, tribul dey-ence cummoorrrrrrrrrn"). My mate bought the single, but no one else did, so...

― DavidM, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Rubbish! If the meaning changed then what is Richie Hawtin or something now? I am a firm believer that if everyone misuses a word then the meaning can change but not everyone misuses techno, just people who don't like techno. As an Englishman Tom you should be ashamed for lapsing into such American ways. (haha what's that at the back, techno fans are anal????)

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(ILE is quickly becoming I love Old Skool, classic)

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Richie Hawtin is still techno duh Ronan, it just meant 2 Unlimited AS WELL after they used it!

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

techno-pop?

― Anna, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway Ronan you don't like real techno.

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

haha is that a joke? you're right anyway though, I don't.

I'd actually be interested to know where techno really came to mean all dance music. Or why? Is it cos it's a much fancier way of saying it than "dance music". I mean "dance music" doesn't really convey the mystery and suspicion enough does it.

(I still disagree in general)

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

although I have to say in Britain I don't think enough people use techno in place of "dance music" for it to be true that any great change has taken place.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree that Hawtin and 2Unlimited are different. I'm just saying that genres don't have definitions, they're basically socially defined constructs and their meaning changes dependent on social construct i.e. if a bloke in a dance music shop says "techno" it probably can mean Hawtin, if a 12-CD bloke sitting next to you at work says "techno" it probably can mean 2Unlimited - neither are 'right'.

Techno came to mean all dance music cos it was snappy and because the specific meaning of 'house' (its rival in the late 80s) was picked up on by more people than the specific meaning of 'techno'.

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm suddenly quite scared.

― Alex M, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that in the US the blame lies squarely with Technotronic.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought you'd been reading this board for ages Alex!

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there is too much of a split for the bloke in work to be right, more people would say dance music instead of techno I think, on this side of the atlantic at least. I don't think the meaning has changed so much as vaguely altered, ie techno could feasibly mean all dance music but this is the exceptional case. The 12 cd type is not a reliable gauge for the meaning having changed, and even if he was so few 12 cd types would even use the word techno in that way.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think actually Ronan you might be right in a sense, in that the meaning has now changed back from its post-Technotronic/2 Unlimited generalisation.

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Not in the US, it hasn't. Some people are still holding on to the horrible catch-all "electronica" while others wil MAYBE make a distinction between "trance" and "techno". About the only styles that are clearly deliminated are trip-hop and drum 'n bass, and even that's up to debate as far as the general public is concerned.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dance music" is a beautifully broad one. The handy part about dance is that it's discussed in terms of singles so much more than artists or albums, so it's easier to be cut and dried.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

it was in one of TOTP's ill- advised "you must do it live" era, and singer was k-flat. really really incredibly bad.

sort of like the Spice Girls on Saturday Night Live? i wish they would still do it like that, the results could be hilarious.

― Dave M., Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always considered "Get Ready for This" to be IDM.

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Urgh, can we PLEASE forget about these Belgian monstrosities? Don't even DRAG Confetti's from my memory bank. Oh and why not Plastic Bertrand? "No Limit" makes me think of "I should be so lucky lucky lucky" > how many MORE times did they need to REPEAT the line. ARGH!

― nathalie, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

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― mark s, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

2 Unlimited No Limit 2000 (Push Transcendental Remix). But that's mainly because it doesn't even use one single sound OR melody from the original apart from one short vocal snippet, and because it's a Push/M.I.K.E. track (= guaranteed quality).

As far as originals go, No Limit or No One.

― Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"No Limits" is thee obviouls one, yes, but in this case for good reason, b/c it is surely one ov thee best singles EVER MADE.

― Norman Phay, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

nah it's definitely "y'all ready for this"! the "techno techno techno techno" refrain of "no limits" puts it firmly in novelty song territory, as does the fact that everyone was going round singing "no no, na na no no, na na no no, na na THERE'S NO LYRICS" and collapsing in heaps of mirth.

― katie, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anybody remember a two page Q interview that just completely took the piss a bunch of years back? I remember it as being one of the funniest things I'd ever read; I'd love to see it again to find out if it still holds up. Best question;

Q: Do you ever get to a point where you're like, 'Hey man - limits'?

― Mark, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you sure that's not from when Chris Morris interviewed them. His Wayne Carr characted interviewed them for the music show he did for Radio1 around 1994 with a similar type of questioning. Very funny although it makes my toes curl round the back of my legs in embarrassment.

― mms, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i distinctly remember q's 2-page spread. mebbe it wos a transcript?

― mark p, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

wc: "when you say the line 'no valley too deep', do you really mean that?"

2ul girl: "of course i do - there's no valley too deep and no mountain too high."

wc: "even if it was an underwater valley?"

2ul guy: "yeah, even if it was an underwater valley."

wc: "so when you sing 'no limits' does that mean that you really think there should be no limits?"

2ul guy: "well, *we* ain't got no limits..."

wc: "is there anything at all you think there should be a limit on?"

2ul girl: "racism"

wc: "so if there was a racist rally and they were singing 'no limits' you'd say 'hey! limits!"

2ul girl: "hey, stop, here's the limit, man!"

wc: "anything else?"

2ul guy: "i like gangsta rap, yeah."

wc: "do you think there should be any limits on that?"

2ul guy: "nah - people shouldn't take it too seriously..."

wc: "but if snoop dogg pulls out a piece on somebody, then should he be limited?"

2ul guy: "nah... if it's in a video..."

wc: "..but if you videoed the real thing it would be in a video but it'd be REAL as well, and that's where the tragedy of modern life lies."

2ul guy: "i understand your point as well, but on the other side, i think that people... these things happen in the states you know"

wc: "in the states. it should be limited then."

wc: "you know, i'm after an answer here!"

2ul guy: "they should make guns plastic with plastic bullets in them, so it still hurts but it doesn't kill."

wc: "so ice-t would be like cop bruiser then?"

2ul guy: "uh, yeah."

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 18 August 2002 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

heard at Celtic Park last Wednesday night -
Mo-mo, mo-mo, mo-mo, mo-mo, mo-mo, mo-mo sylla.

2 Unlimited live on in rubbish football chants.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 20 August 2002 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

Some people are still holding on to the horrible catch-all "electronica"

Which catch-all term should be used instead and why?

― man, Friday, 4 April 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the point is to not use a catch-all, at all.

What erks people is that it used to be called "dance music" but that was unacceptable to indie and rockist types who despise the word "dance" because of certain, uh, connotations.

Now electronica makes more sense these days than using "dance music" as a catch-all, but the etymology bugs.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 4 April 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Should we stop using terms like "classical", "jazz", "rock" and "pop", too?

― man, Friday, 4 April 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sure those terms make various music-lovers cringe too. Language and names are like that. oh well.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 4 April 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's a dumb term because we already had/were using "techno" and "dance music"; inventing a third term to make people addicted to guitar bands feel better about themselves is a copout.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe no-ones loving "The Workaholic" here...

― Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

But not all alectronica is dance music! And calling house, trance, techno, drum'n'bass etc. "techno" makes the term "techno" very ambiguous.

― man, Friday, 4 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Which electronica isn't dance music? I betcha most of it could be described as "ambient".

(In general I do agree about the overuse of the word "techno", which is why I like "dance music".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

What about noise and idm? And "dance music" doesn't necessary include only electronic music.

― man, Friday, 4 April 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree that dance music isn't only electronic music. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by noise, but what do you think the DM in IDM stands for?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I know it stands for dance music, but lots of IDM isn't danceable.

― man, Friday, 4 April 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

is all rock music "guitar" music or "electric" music? (not rhetorical).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 4 April 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

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