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are any of these things actually badly designed or is the dude that made the site just an unintuitive moron?

― RJG, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've only looked at a few of them. he seems mighty unintuitive and a mite, um, dumb. like. he should read things if they say things and he wants to use them.

― RJG, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I'll tke door #2, Monty!"

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The whole thing is deeply Andy Rooney-ish until you get to "it is inside out?" I wuv "is it inside out?"

― nabisco, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.baddesigns.com/vcr.gif

hm, not so much bad as old.

what's eating gilbert grape?

not so much bad as...

― RJG, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Seems to focus on inanities rather than things that are genuinely unusable. Annoying.

― Graham, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is the best website ever!

I think this guy is the most stupid person in the world!

― jamesmichaelward, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco, you nailed it with the Andy Rooney comparison. : )
Oh man, and I need to go to sleep soon- now I'm going to sit up half the night reading about unintuitive toothpaste caps!!

― lyra in seattle, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The best ad ever for Viagra would be Andy Rooney doing the "is it inside out" bit.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"With these crazy things, you just can't tell. ... It gets you wondering exactly when everything had to get so darn complicated, and if I weren't going to have an erection for two hours I'd probably just have done with it and take a nice long nap."

― Andy Rooney, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My favourite (apart from 'is it inside out?' obviously) is the truly mind-bending tuna can confusion. Life is so hard.

― Archel, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My favourite is the toothpaste fiasco. I can just imagine him returning to his airline seat, with toothpaste-coated trousers, while his patient and long-suffering wife sighs and shows him how to open a tube of toothpaste correctly.

Classic

― C J, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

wow this website has poor design! I haven't seen one of these http://www.baddesigns.com/cool.gif since like 1998!!

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 20 March 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

I had an old-style VW Beetle and the headlights definitely turned off with the ignition. Maybe it's just me, but the design of things has always intrigued/frustrated me.

― jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 20 March 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

my ergonomics lecturer at uni directed us to this site as one with quite a few good examples of poor designs where designers have really kind of ignored the ways in which humans behave. that was in about 1999 though, i don't think the website has been updated since then.

― gem (trisk), Sunday, 20 March 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

the fuck is wrong with tuna?

― f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 20 March 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

They don't design tuna cans like that anymore, obv. And there are even MORE types of tuna out there. And some of these complaints are actually quite reasonable ones, esp if coming from the viewpoint of someone who's not to be expected to live with those designs on a daily basis. However, with a great many of these, the solution is either so ridiculously simple (e.g. reading the user's manual) or incredibly easy that... well... yeah, this guy might have been a bit of a dunce. As of 1999, that is. *tsk*

― Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 20 March 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

criticism vs. bitching.

I can't believe he didn't know how to open the toothpaste. If your wife can explain to you how to do it and she wasn't even there, it's not bad design, it's you being a dumbass.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Sunday, 20 March 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

I liked the fact that all his friends are morons too. The one about "trapped between two doors" killed me. They pulled the door to go out, turned round, pulled the same door from the other side and then when it didn't open ASSUMED THEY WERE TRAPPED.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

The door thing is stolen pretty much directly from the ubiquitous design book "The Design of Everyday Things" (originally titled "The Psychology of Everyday Things") by Donald Norman.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 20 March 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

What a fucktard. The parking machine has a BIG RED SIGN that says you have to push the button to start.

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 20 March 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

"Going on a trip, I quickly packed my suitcase taking the hand lotion (bottle on the left) instead of the shampoo (bottle on the right). I didn't discover my mistake until I was in the shower the next morning in the motel and my hair was full of hand lotion! Have you ever tried to wash hand lotion out of your hair with a bar of soap?"

Wait, is this guy the sergeant from Police Academy?

― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 21 March 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

Worst search engine ever, courtesy of famous upmarket store Selfridges. Try anything, then go for the 'search tips' option and try to make sense of the Lauren part, and try any of their examples, or anything else - and let me know if you succeed in finding anything at all. http://www.selfridges.co.uk/internet/iweb2002.nsf/frameset?openview&restricttocategory=frontpage

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

maybe it isn't plugged in

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, why is there any flash on this page at all??? That annoying endless loop of the shopper walking could easily be done with an animated gif. Nothing comes up on any search.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

It's the tips part I love: 'Searching for "Lauren" will find "Ralph Lauren" (amongst others possibly) but searching for "Ralph Lauren" may not work.' How does that get through to release? (And searching for Lauren gets nothing - ditto the other examples, Versace and hampers.)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

"Many people might blame themselves for not knowing how to open the toothpaste tube, but I opt to blame the designers of this tube for not making it more obvious how to open it."

So OTM, and yet so damning. What WOULD it would be like to live in the same world I do now, but be slightly more clueless?

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

oh god that's infuriatingly dumb.
http://www.baddesigns.com/gaspump.html
so, wait, is the price the one with the huge $ in front of it, or is that how many gallons I've pumped? What's more, do I put the petrol pump nozzle in the hole behind this closed flap, or in the easily accessible and completely open pipe that sticks out the back of the car? A person shouldn't have to make these decisions.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't look like it would be confusing, but it is.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.baddesigns.com/badnews.html

News just in! Left-handers are completely unable to use their right hands for anything, anything at all. Especially intricate tasks such as ripping off sheets of toilet paper.

I'm going to stop right now before I link to every single page and weep.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

It's always bad design to disappoint users with misleading, attention-grabbing links.

I mean, people, "A Reach-Around Mirror" can only mean one thing, right?

http://www.baddesigns.com/mirror.html

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.baddesigns.com/doors.html

These are the same kind of people who get trapped on escalators.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

THANK YOU, ANDY ROONEY!
THANK YOU, LARRY DAVID!

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

He's OTM about the condoms. People this retarded need all the help they can get in not reproducing.

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

I searched for linen, cutlery, shirts and pakora, coming up empty each time.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

Somehow, that guys bad designs site reads like a wonderful Onion article. I love it, he's insanely batty.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

I mean: "Design suggestion
It might help if the inside and outside were different colors (or shades) and different textures. Well, maybe not different textures! "

!!!!^%!%#

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

www.selfridges.com have redesigned. They have completely thrown away their masterpiece of a search engine, and added LOADS of Flash. There's an image where parts of it represent the sections of the store. "Men's" is represented by P. Diddy. "Food and Drink" is represented by an attractive woman. "Women's" is represented by an attractive woman. "Health and Beauty" is represented by an attractive woman. Because obviously they need something new for "Leisure and Technology" (I imagine because we know those sweet girlies can't work technology), that is represented by... a dog. It also has a horrible menu bar that you fumble to follow around.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 2 December 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

omg how does it know it's morning??!

lame. what makes them think i want it full screen? the image seems 'backward' agreed. there is just no reason for it to be entirely Flash (but i say that about all sites now).

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

"awe inspiring animated version of our site"

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

That gas pump one is killing me. There is a design affordance, you ass -- there's a giant dollar sign next to the amount that is in dollars! There are a handful of good criticisms in here that I'd feel embarassed to send to anyone because there are so many stupid ones.

Martin, that selfridges site is useless. It took me a few minutes to figure out what range of items they sell, let alone find any useful information...

― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think it looks alright.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't find that one... however, some of them really *are* badly designed. I mean, how do you open this fridge?

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

While I agree that the fridge is not the best-designed thing, you can see very clearly in the picture that there are hinges on the left side, meaning it will open from the right.

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't see that from the photo!

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

bad users

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

My microwave is badly designed. There's one button on the panel that stands out from the rest, it's bigger, it's RED, it's conveniently located in the lower right on the control panel, and it's... wait for it... the stop/clear button. The start button is small and looks like all the other buttons. I can't seem to train myself not to enter the time I want to cook something and then press the BIG RED BUTTON. And really, I shouldn't have to.

Bad design.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have a fridge with handles on both sides, it never occured to me that anyone wouldn't know what side to open. Maybe I was lucky in getting it right the first time.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

red means stop, stupid

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

RJG, you're being perverse. These things are clearly terribly designed.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

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I bet you've got a dishwasher, too

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

i would love a dishwasher. then i could fire my servant.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

If "form follows function" became a "money-spinning credo", does that mean that form and function both follow money? So there's money at the front, but which comes next? Is form following function following money, or is function following form following money? Or perhaps money is really following function, and form is following money? Or maybe form is just another word for God, for the primum mobile, the "first mover" or "first cause", and therefore both money and function are following form? And where's desire in all this? I suppose it's in the "following". Desire means following the thing we want because we lack it. Money, form and function all "lack" each other, but only some of them know it; the ones which are following the others. The other, the leader, stubbornly refuses to admit its dependence, its desire.

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been so glad to see you turn up on a thread.

However, I think you've got it the wrong way around. Money follows form that follows function. Rather than form and function following money. If you build a better mousetrap, then the world will beat a path of gold to your door.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Money follows form that follows function. Rather than form and function following money. If you build a better mousetrap, then the world will beat a path of gold to your door.

But isn't "building a better mousetrap" (rather than, say, a more elegant or pretty mousetrap) a question of function? And therefore, aren't you arguing that money follows function, and that form is an incidental attribute of function?

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

But some people just buy the orange juicer that looks like a metal spider because it looks cool rather than the one that actually works better.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Money and form are both following function, I think. Apart from the silly orange juicers. Is that the idea behind "form follows function" that form is an incidental attribute of function? I don't think so. I think that the Sullivan/Gropius ideal is that they should be married, one and the same, two halves of the same coin, rather than one being subject to the other.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, mentioning Breuer, when I think of a building like the Whitney Museum (by Breuer), I put it in the category of "iconic buildings", buildings that promote themselves and their owners and get on magazine covers. Trophy buildings like the Bilbao Guggenheim. The money follows the form, and the function is secondary to the form (they had to put the 5th floor admin space at the Whitney back into the brownstones next door eventually, to cram in more gallery space).

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

On the other hand, the thing which causes someone to try to build a better mousetrap is the knowledge that they will be able to make money from it. So in that case the form and the function are following the money again.

― James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's a bizarre love triangle!

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, to be a bit swanky, this touches on my Design Rockism article for AIGA Voice, in which I call "rockist" the belief that form should follow function rather than desire. I then argue that function, for instance in high-tech style, is itself just another style, another formal choice. I quote an Amazon reader review of Muller-Brockmann's "Grid Systems", where the guy goes from saying "it is essential that a design be based upon an objective process that centers on functionality and a logical progression of reasoning" to saying “I was jumping around like a kid at Christmas when it arrived.” In other words, function too is ultimately something we desire, in a strange way. Jerry Seinfeld has a joke about how men do DIY just to hang out and feel like they're being ultra-pragmatic and functionalist, when in fact it's just their version of a coffee klatsch.

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

OK, we're getting off topic here, because the bizare love triangle of money, form and function is what Branding is all about.

However, I have just spent a few minutes in our kitchen (at the watercooler, coincidentally, as I'm thirsty) looking at the two, nearly identical fridges. They are both the same size, the same shape, and the same colour. However, one has perfectly symmetrical face, and it is not easy to tell from looking at it head-on which side it opens on. The other is not symmetrical, there is a handle on one side. It is much easier to tell just by looking at it, without any close examination of the hinges (which are actually slightly hidden from the angle at which most of us look at it) which way it opens.

Now, symetricality or not may be a question of taste and design and clean lines and all that. HOWEVER, the useful thing, when actually using a fridge, is to know which side it opens on!

(Anyway, all this talk of clean lines is clearly superfluous when we all know that my tastes run to the gothic and Victorian and I'd buy a fridge with curleques and paisley and bits of gold leaf around the edges, and a big sculpted hand pointing towards the INGRESS if I possibly could.)

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think symetricality is a matter of taste

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Of course it is!

Anyway, my GIS reveals that an *actual* Victorian fridge was actually symmetrical:

http://www.p4a.com/item_images/medium/23/79/95-1.jpg

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

How long did it take you to work out how to open the symmetrical fridge? Does it just sit there unused because of its impractical design?

― James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Momus were you saying that preferring a wheel to be round is merely a (rockist) style/form preference rather than recognising that this be the 'most correct'/logical format for the desired function? Perhaps it depends on whether the desire is based on what is needed as opposed to what is merely wanted.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, it's symmetry anyway.

x-post dammit, I was enjoying the moment of actually spell correcting the pedant, but yes. I've always avoided that particular fridge, and never quite put my finger on why, until I realised that it was the door.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I would certainly favour a handle on a fridge, on one side. I would judge this to be better design than the handle-less fridge, even if the former ends up less attractive aesthetically than the latter.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Now, symetricality or not may be a question of taste and design and clean lines and all that. HOWEVER, the useful thing, when actually using a fridge, is to know which side it opens on!

But it's not the symmetricality (or not) which makes us know how to open a fridge, it's habit and convention. That's why Flash is more clunky than HTML; everybody does their own custom interface with Flash, and you have to learn the navigation anew each time.

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Anna's fridge opens on the other side! It's terribly well designed because her housemate is an architect - but every single time I open the thing I think I've broken it. (This is another story.)

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, this door handle:

http://www.baddesigns.com/doorhand3.gif

What on EARTH are you supposed to do with that? It is clearly badly designed! From an ergonomic point of view, as well as an intuitive "which way does it open" because it's just in the most inconvenient spot to grapple with the centre of gravity.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

our freezer is on top of our fridge (it was like this when we moved in) which bothers me as i prefer and am used to it the other way round. in addition, the fridge door opens to the right but the freezer door opens to the left which has resulted in confusion as the freezer door has no handle (unless i'm mistaken, which is possible - i mean, it's been several hours since i last looked at it).

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there's clearly a problem here. We rate originality highly, it becomes a "talking point" in designs, it wins prizes. But habit and convention (ie doing things the way everybody has always done them) make for ease-of-use. So a lot of the best design (in terms of originality) is automatically going to be the worst design (in terms of usability).

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, newer and more creative mousetrap != better mousetrap.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

you think you were correcting me

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's well known that *I* can't spell. You're a known pedant so you should know better!

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

guess I should have posted "I don't think "symetricality" is a matter of taste"

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Now enough picking on my spelling. What's your opinion on door handles?

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

they should be used, where provided

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

unless you don't want to access what is behind them.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but should they be clearly visible? Should they be on the side that the door opens from? Or does it not matter?

I mean, you say that anyone who can't figure out the examples on the site is an "unintuitive moron" but clearly some of these examples are *not* intuitive, or even sensible, in the case of that "put the knob in the centre of gravity" door up there.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I could say... does it really *matter* if I use one M or two in the word "symetricality" since you knew intuitively what I was trying to get across. Shouldn't design follow similar conventions? There's a reason that Owen Jones' great treatise was called The GRAMMAR of Ornament.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think that 5 seconds of thought is acceptable extension of inuition

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

nobody cares about the spelling.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but how can you accept that there are rules and conventions for spelling and grammar, yet not accept that there are similar rules and conventions for design?

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

there's no way to spell "symetricality" correctly

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

um, I accept that things can be badly/stupidly designed

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

So what's the difference between spelling correctly and designing correctly? Door handles go on the side of the door that opens!

X-post so you admit that some of the examples on that site are indeed examples of bad design, then?

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but should they be clearly visible? Should they be on the side that the door opens from? Or does it not matter?

This is like saying "What about trousers? Should they be black? Or blue pinstripe? Or denim?"

― James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

There is also grammar for dress! If you wore a pair of denim trousers to my office, you'd be sent home!

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

XP: Right, look: the "clearly visible" part is up for debate as seen in this thread. But the fact remains that handles can't be on the SAME side as the hinges and still function as handles. If they're supposed to be performing some other function of style/appearance then it's debateable again, but they're not HANDLES.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

well it's a handle by form but not by function ;)

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly!

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

those double door-handled doors are especially designed so that their opening direction can be switched

yes, it would be a better design to have an insert to plug or disguise the unused handles but, even without, less than 5 seconds of thought will reveal how the thing works. you needn't even touch it more than once, with luck

I am designing to leave the office, now

3 crossposts

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Have a good weekend. (pedant.)

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

If you just re-hang the door so that it opens in the direction that makes the most intuitive sense for your kitchen/space, then with any luck you'll always grab for the right side by force of subconscious convenience. Of course that may depend on the "wrong" side being so totally inconvenient (for instance, opening into a wall as in my kitch) that it's nearly impossible to mistake. Seems like a sort of seamless ideal to me. Unfortunately doesn't apply to fridges/spaces that are public or not under your control.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

Ok, this seems like a genuinely bad design:

http://images.jr.com/productimages/MEL1012U.PNG?CELL=380,380&QLT=67&FTR=3&BGCOLOR=FFFFFF&CVT=jpeg

It's a replacement coffee maker carafe. At first I thought it was brilliant -- the adjustable center part of the top screws up or down to fit almost any coffee maker.

But first of all, it's almost impossible to get to a good height, because the bump in the center pushes closed the little stopper-like part of the coffee maker that lets the coffee out after it passes through the filter. Even worse, and groser, is that the coffee runs over that bump, through one of four holes, and then over the whole screw-like mechanism on its way into the carafe. That means you end up with impossible to clean coffee residue in various parts of the carafe, and that the next coffee you make runs over that same residue.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 2 March 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, this seems like a genuinely bad design:

http://images.jr.com/productimages/MEL1012U.PNG?CELL=380,380&QLT=67&FTR=3&BGCOLOR=FFFFFF&CVT=jpeg

It's a replacement coffee maker carafe. At first I thought it was brilliant -- the adjustable center part of the top screws up or down to fit almost any coffee maker.

But first of all, it's almost impossible to get to a good height, because the bump in the center pushes closed the little stopper-like part of the coffee maker that lets the coffee out after it passes through the filter. Even worse, and grosser, is that the coffee runs over that bump, through one of four holes, and then over the whole screw-like mechanism on its way into the carafe. That means you end up with impossible to clean coffee residue in various parts of the carafe, and that the next coffee you make runs over that same residue.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 2 March 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/badjunctions/62-621-650.shtml

M62-M621-A650-A62 junction

― -- (688), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

or, more to the point

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Morley,+West+Yorkshire,+LS27,+UK&ie=UTF8&ll=53.746909,-1.633701&spn=0.009339,0.029697&om=1

― -- (688), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

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