what is the difference between a pot and a pan?

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settle this once and for all, dear readers.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:18 (fourteen years ago)

There is not a difference ("not a" is an anagram of the letters different between the two words).

if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

This answer isn't actually true tho.

if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

i always thought a pot was designed to be filled with liquid and "pan" covered a broad spectrum of other cooking vessels.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:21 (fourteen years ago)

A pan has one long handle, a pot usually has two smaller ones.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:23 (fourteen years ago)

usually?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:25 (fourteen years ago)

Coffee pots and teapots are an exception, they have one looped handle (but *not* a pan-type handle). They're more of a jug variant anyway though.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

pans can be flatter (like frying pan, but not frying pot)

dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:28 (fourteen years ago)

I think initially a pot would have been clay/earthenware based and a pan would have been metallic, but they've been mixed up over time.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

Pots are deeper and narrower and pans are ^^ flatter and wider. Also, different etymology?

mysterious centimetres (doo dah), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

Who the hell are the people who are confused about this?

ENBB, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

I've never really thought about how old bed pans worked. And I don't think I'm going to start now.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:33 (fourteen years ago)

pans are good for hitting people on the head with. you can't do that easily with a pot.

dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:34 (fourteen years ago)

Pots are deeper and narrower and pans are ^^ flatter and wider. Also, different etymology?

So you're saying a saucepan is actually a pot? Controversial!

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:34 (fourteen years ago)

Pots are good for protecting your head with if someone is hitting you with a pan. xp

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:35 (fourteen years ago)

Pot:

I. A vessel used for storage, cooking, etc.
1.
a. A relatively deep vessel (typically with a cylindrical or otherwise rounded body and made of earthenware, metal, plastic, etc.) used chiefly to hold a liquid or solid substance.

Pan:

I. A shallow vessel, and related senses.
1.
a. A vessel made of metal or (formerly) earthenware, usually broad and shallow and often open, used for cooking and other domestic purposes. Freq. in pl. in collocation with pots, as pots and pans.

oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:36 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1900A_ktEg&playnext=1&list=PLBEFF9BAA2D8D372D

ENBB, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

pan ^^^

ENBB, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

When critics pan a movie or a book, that is what they are figuratively doing.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:41 (fourteen years ago)

Pots are deeper and narrower and pans are ^^ flatter and wider. Also, different etymology?

So you're saying a saucepan is actually a pot? Controversial!

Yeah, I wonder why they aren't called saucepots? Because they've only got the one handle?

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

yes, you have homed in on it - "saucepan" is to blame here

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:43 (fourteen years ago)

oh, you saucy pot

dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:43 (fourteen years ago)

pots get accused of being a hypocrite when it insults kettles, pans get away with it.

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

saucepan is still a pan because it's usually still wider than it's high?

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

A vessel made of metal or (formerly) earthenware, usually broad and shallow and often open, used for cooking and other domestic purposes.

sinister

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)

xp
I'd mention asparagus pans here but I don't want to muddy the waters.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:47 (fourteen years ago)

Or casserole dishes which are clearly not dishes.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:49 (fourteen years ago)

Hm, I am wondering if it is a sauce "pan" because you reduce the liquids? But with a pot, you are trying to keep the liquids from evaporating?

mysterious centimetres (doo dah), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:49 (fourteen years ago)

sinister

Basically assault and pooping.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:49 (fourteen years ago)

so it's height/diameter ratio? <1 = pan, >1 = pot?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)

rule of thumb

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:52 (fourteen years ago)

Pans have to be broader than they are tall to balance out the weight of the one long handle.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:56 (fourteen years ago)

Simple pan physics.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:57 (fourteen years ago)

you ever try flying pot-am? no? well that's settled then.

dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

by law, if it's more than 75% as tall as it is wide, it's a pot, and if it's less than that, it's a pan.

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:00 (fourteen years ago)

Seriously, it is important that you know this stuff if you're thinking of getting involved in the cookware blackmarket as the penalties do differ greatly between pot-dealing and panhandling.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

wahey

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

"milkpan": http://www.johnlewis.com/231034624/Product.aspx

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

loooool NickB

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

lol

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)

Haha max A+

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:56 (fourteen years ago)

also I don't really get the confusion. This is like when a guy asked me what is the difference between a dress and a skirt...like I would never have know there was even a question

Pot - deep
pan- shallow

saucepan misleading but English language is WTF so

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:58 (fourteen years ago)

so a pot with a long handle on it is called a pan, is what you're all saying

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:08 (fourteen years ago)

like if a skirt had pockets you'd call it a dress or something

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:10 (fourteen years ago)

no you'd call it a skirt with pockets or a pot with a handle

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

do we need to set up a school for this

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:14 (fourteen years ago)

This is like when a guy asked me what is the difference between a dress and a skirt

seriously someone asked this?!

like if a skirt had pockets you'd call it a dress or something

tracer! no!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:44 (fourteen years ago)

i'm kidding!! skirts and dresses have a clear demarcation between them, and that doesn't change because of some extraneous appendage

VegemiteGrrl do you seriously ask for "the pot with the handle" in the throes of cooking?? come on now.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

no. pot - deep, pan - shallow.

you said "so a pot with a long handle is a pan?" to which I replied it is just a pot with a long handle, ie handle is not contingent to definition, at least imo

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:36 (fourteen years ago)

why would a pot have a long handle?

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

this is not a pan, obvs
http://www.startbreakingfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/carry-buckets11.jpg

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

yes, you have homed in on it - "saucepan" is to blame here

Uhhhh, hate to throw a (s)pan(ner) in the works here but chip pans aren't the shallowest either

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:48 (fourteen years ago)

Is THAT what a spanner is?! For some reason I had it in my head that a spanner was a another name for a divining rod or it was some other sort of navigational device. What was I thinking?

A pot is deep and has various types of handles.
A pan is much more shallow and used to fry/saute things

It's in the depth, not the handle
At least in my world, which is clearly a little subjective and often plainly wrong

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:54 (fourteen years ago)

Eh? You don't know what a spanner is? You've lost me... Chip pans are not shallow

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

i like your world, lechera :)

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

... "frying" is possibly more important than depth

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:00 (fourteen years ago)

Spanner is Brit English for wrench

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:00 (fourteen years ago)

A pot is deep and has various types of handles.
A pan is much more shallow and used to fry/saute things

This is correct.

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

You don't use the phrase "spanner in the works" then? Shame :(

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

wrench in the works!

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:02 (fourteen years ago)

ha! I guess it is a tool of some sort. I just spent the better part of an hour thinking a spanner was a special frying pan for potatoes, so hey -- truth is ~fluid~

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:02 (fourteen years ago)

Trying not to confuse the Americans further, chip pans are used to fry, errrrrrrrrrr, french fries

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

I grew up in Akron, Ohio. There were no spanners there except in Smiths cassettes I checked out from the public library. Lots of pots and pans though.
Even so, I know what a chip is :)

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

This must have confused a lot of people then:

http://www.tilleysvintagemagazines.com/gallery/bookLennonSpaniard.jpg

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

I'd imagine so.

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:05 (fourteen years ago)

What do you call a wrench then? If you call a spanner a wrench?

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

What do you call a wrench?

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

A spanner!

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.tudorshoppe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kitchen_wench.jpgwhaaaaa????

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

Oh right, you mean, what do we call a wrench as opposed to a spanner?

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

yes

pots and pans are not minimal pairs linguistically or otherwise
there are lots of differences between them

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

at least more than one

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

a wrench is a spanner on steroids.

a spanner is a non-adjustable wrench

ledge, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

Wiki'd it:

The term wrench refers to a type of adjustable spanner

But it's even more of a minefield than pots and pans

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

(xp)

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

How do monkeys fit into this?

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

Either the first is a nmonkey wrench or the last is a monkey spanner. I'm no expert though.

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:16 (fourteen years ago)

Do you use wrench as a verb? For example, "I think I wrenched my back lifting that monkey into his bed"

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

Absolutely, "spannered" means getting drunk tho, I think

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)

Do we use wrench as a verb? I don't think I've ever heard that before.

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, it's usually used as a synonym for "pull" when you're talking about injuring muscles (as La Lechera says)

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:19 (fourteen years ago)

Huh! I didn't know.

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wrench

I'd forgotten about the emotional jerking definition

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:22 (fourteen years ago)

Whoa whoa whoa, take the emotional jerking to TMI.

Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:22 (fourteen years ago)

It can be for other things, but it's not that common. Like wrenching something into place, connotes hard work and possibly also a circular motion?? Like, you wrench on one of these:

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4258706/2/istockphoto_4258706-boat-steering-wheel-cutout.jpg

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:23 (fourteen years ago)

oh duh like heartwrenching - of course

I just don't think I've ever heard anyone say it in terms of injuring themselves or something similar.

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, it's not an Americanism, maybe not is use in all parts of the UK tho

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)

in use... not is use

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)

lol, read more fantasy books and you'll find more wrenching than you can shake a +4 Stick of Extreme Twisting at

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:26 (fourteen years ago)

In old Europe all cooking vessels were pans, and were shallow. That's because depth wasn't known yet - just look at early Medieval paintings for proof of this. When depth was invented, people realized they could keep more stuff in a pan by increasing the height. This was the birth of both pot and soup.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

http://chestofbooks.com/travel/ireland/John-Stoddard-Lectures/images/An-Ancient-Celtic-Copper-Cauldron.png
that's deep

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

actually when is a monkey an ape?

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

heartwrenching

Is this not meant to be heartrending though?

Gut-wrenching is definitely a thing though.

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

What's the difference between a plot and a plan?

I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

In old Europe all cooking vessels were pans, and were shallow. That's because depth wasn't known yet - just look at early Medieval paintings for proof of this. When depth was invented, people realized they could keep more stuff in a pan by increasing the height. This was the birth of both pot and soup.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:31 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Is that from Sellar and Yeatman?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

What's the difference between a plot and a plan?

― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:20 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a pot is tactical, a pan is strategic

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

A really good way to remember the difference between a pot and a pan is that Peter Pan has a longer *handle* than Pol Pot.

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

Would Pol Pot pan pot? That is the question.

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

Take a pol.

Joseph Beuys II Men (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Ask not what Pol Pot's pot's not got, ask can Van Dam's gran's flan pan slam Japan, man.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Or casserole dishes which are clearly not dishes.

"A casserole, from the French for "saucepan", is a large, deep dish used both in the oven and as a serving vessel"

Yep, this clears things up.

Number None, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)


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