Has ILE influenced your vocabulary?

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FuXoR / = / cockfarmer / Pfff! / etc. (Examples, written &/or oral?)

AP, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

FuXoR now in my SPOKEN vocab (pronounced as it's writ: "fucks-or" w/ heavy "cks" [=X] emphasis).

Sinker iz top three exponent of rock-write bracketry (others: Rev Norb, M. Prindle), esp. square bracket. Never used those [much] before. Now can't get enuff.

Have appropriated/pinched from Ally, writing & talking in absolutes. Everything's the best ever. Except when it's the worst ever. Doing that more: commiting wholeheartedly to opinions that'll be eclipsed tomorrow or in five minutes = grand thing.

AP, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It has compelled me to stop talking entirely.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah I saw this band the other nite & I told 'em, Hey yr set = GRATE!, they totally din't know what I was tlking about.

duane, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When someone is intellectual, I flatter him (or her) by saying "Dude, you're so MOMUS!" ;-)

nathalie (nathalie), Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What are you talking about? ILE steals vocabulary from ME!

Kate the Saint, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kate what're you talkin about, nobody else here talks anything like you. I can tell a post is from you within the 1st 2 words. Hey it's good to see you back BTW, I had become convinced something horrible had happened to you.
So who is INFLUENCE #1 on the IL(x) lingo, it'd be be Mr S. right?

duane, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

or i guess more like sinker/ally/norman, =. (I mean = in its old fashioned sense)

duane, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm quite influenced by doompatrol, myself.

duane, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, I find my IL* speaking is fairly net-specific. IRL I have a whole other set of mannerisms, including "hella" and more interestingly using the definite but vague quantifier "item" in all sorts of sentences, often as a conclusion to ones which would otherwise trail off into nothingness. I'd like to take credit for the occasional uses of "on the [xxx] tip" and "c.f." as well as the extension, still rare, of roXoR and suXoR to the lovely term "fuXoR". Also, did I introduce the "!=" symbol, coz I'd sure like to take credit for that one.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, the old alt-music-alternative is prolly the biggest influence, providing the dialogic framework of ILM/E what with Classic vs. Dud and Search vs. Destroy.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nobody talks like me cause nobody *can* talk like me. Sigh. This is the only board that hasn't started to bend to the force of my own personality and posting style. Maybe why I'm constantly drawn back...

Certain lists in the past I've been on have just about needed dictionaries to handle the amount of Kate-speak issuing forth on them. I guess it's because I've never posted much to alt.music.alternative that my posting style has never quite fit in or jelled here.

Kate the Saint, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am a reformed programmer, yo, I use != habitually. And a nonreformed pedant - cf. 'c.f.' which I didn't pick up here.

Josh, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I seem to use a lot more Anglicanisms ( ie Trainers,Jumpers,hoover) then i used to .

anthony, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh my god, I just caught myself using "twunt" in another forum.

Kate the Saint, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hee hee hee, that's your subconscious telling you to write some e-mail, Kate.

I've already told Ally she's my own personal language virus but personally I like to resuscitate creative insult terms like wassock and dunderhead.

suzy, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Posting style full of watered-down Meltzerisms (via Byron Coley, prob.) w/ a bit of Mark S thrown in. = v. handy verbal shorthand that I now find myself using in everyday speech. Have also learnt to be wary of the word 'influence' here or anywhere else! GRATE and interweb = urgent and key. Can't bring myself to say cockfarmer or twunt, tho, and I still don't like Buffy, hurrah!

Andrew L, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

did i get 'Beaten With Sticks' from here? from Ally i think?

gareth, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hurrah!

mark s, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Like, hello, of course this cockfarming beeotch has influenced my vocabulary. Specific examples include heavy use of '=', X0r and the aforementioned cockfarmer and Ally talk. I do use '!=' rather alot, but I think I might have introduced that one myself, being another programming type.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No not really, hmmmm, no it hasn't! My own over use of !!!, is really affecting my ability to write academically!!

jel, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

|-|3y y00 14Y/|\0rZ!!!! g00gl3 !z n0w a\/a!labl3 in h4x0rsp34k!!!!

PH34R MY 31337|\|355!!!!

x0x0

|\|0|2/|\4|\| |=4'/, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sheesh no. though i wish cuntburglars would take off...

Geoff, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The first thing I said to my friend Ross in the pub last night was 'I AM THE UNTAMED FIREPUSS!!' so the answer has to be yes.

Nick, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cockfarmer, Cockfarmer, Cockfarmer.

Talking in absolutes, too. Except when you are required to tell aesthetic lies.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I only talk like me, because hello, I have the best vocabulary ever. I can't bring myself to use cockfarmer, it seemed very 15 minutes ago about a week ago, and it's more 15 minutes ago now. Nothing against anyone who still wants to use it.

Ally, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, obv. "botard" is this week's cockfarmer. (And snap w/ Andrew L above: got most of this {this = yr, w/, etc} from B. Coley in FE ca. 87.)

AP, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wuv that the ruling ghosts of this entire land (=bar) are B.Coley, T.Pynchon, N.Molesworth and N.Fay. Also I wuv who doesn't succumb — Ally & Robin for starters (not to mention, sitting in a tree).

mark s, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Botard != "this week's cockfarmer" due to botard being purely regional slang which has been around for ever, and will probably never catch on in general use, you botard.

Kate the Saint, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't use botard, it'll offend Nick because it derives from the Brit-only made-up word retard. *sigh* But it'll only offend him because he's in love with me, anyhow.

Ally, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what? "retard" is a british term too now? am i misunderstanding something?

i used "cf" before. (surely it's a commonly used abbreviation?) i notice myself shamelessly writing and sometimes speaking in british slang: "bollocks," "you lot," "a good bit," "rubbish," etc.

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think that retard is a purely British slang (as, obviously it's a principle part of the new Word Of The Week, Botard, which originated in upstate NY) but I think the idea that it is offensive and un-PC may be a British idea.

Kate the Saint, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In Idaho people say "Motard". Does this word (not its slang usage) have something to do with glaciers?

1 1 2 3 5, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Perceive "botard" more as contracted version of "blowhard". Which is so v. appropriate. As fer dunderhead, prefer chunderhead. And snapperhead. "Motard" iz derogatory of someone's driving skillz.

AP, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

True answ. : surprisingly hasn't. Compared '91 DZ diary w/ '01 ditto w/postage style - exactly the same! a head of my time or fuckin what.

duane, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...readin these old diaries...i just wanna share this with you... (scene - cocktail party, may '93) - "(...) was there...he said 'Are these olives stuffed? well you should get some new ones'"...yeah well i thought it was pretty funny.

duane, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...did i say "ahead of my time"? sorry i meant "RETARDED", obv.

duane, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I do find myself wanting to use XoR in real life, but am always stopped short when I realize nobody will know what the fuck I'm talking about. My "et cet." thing comes from Barth. But to get real Pynchon we'd have to adopt usw. which I don't see happening. Also, my stutter thing is classic Pynchon. Josh and I, at various periods, spent some time on the P-List, and I wonder to what extent that affected our vocab. Certainly for me, my years on the P-List back in the day were a fairly formative internet experience.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The 'classic or dud' meme has infected my Chadwell Heath associates.

DG, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used "usw" in my notebook last night on the bus and woke up this morning and thought "where the FUCK did I get that from?". So thankyou for reminding me.

Tom, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Also many times used usw; stopped eventually when it never got printeDoR in magZoR. A-also sometimes use stutter (once in hed to thread on ILM: th-thing...)

(ps re-read all molesworth when home in shropshire at weekend, instead of working on book: more sex referred to than I expected hem hem, but actually IL• are better so 1000000000000 boos to g.willans and r.searle)

mark s, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In a work discush abt why women always pick crap men to date, I used the no- comeback-there line "That's because girls equals rubbish..." Response = silence and end of argt.

mark s, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

MaRK S SeZ: I wuv that the ruling ghosts of this entire land (=bar) are B.Coley, T.Pynchon, N.Molesworth and N.Fay.

BeiNG PuT iN LiZT W/MoLeZWoRTH = NiCeZT THiNG aNYoNe HaZ eVeR SaiD aBT Me!!!!! THaNKS MaRK!!!!

x0x0

Norman Fay, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I want to use 'usw' but after the first time I read the bookI realized no one would ever know what the fuck I was talking about.

Josh, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

USW? I missed that, what be that?

DG, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

U S W. You sexy watermelon.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For tha answer, Nathalie wins a BRAND NEW CAR!

(At least, she would in a perfect world. In this one, she gets my hearty chuckles.)

Dan Perry, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This week's "botard" = gripper. I'm keeping tabs.

AP, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wait a minute, mark invented '=' and 'v.'? Inconceivable! I would have sworn that I've been seeing/using those two for years. Not usually the spongey type... Could be true tho... no proof otherwise. Slang is such a special virus.

Kim, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark just uses "=" a lot, more than necessary but that's why it's good. As for 'v.', that's been blatantly stolen from Bridget Jones and it bothers me greatly, in that light, that people around here use it. BRIDGET JONES IS CRAP. DON'T STEAL THAT SLANG, BROTHERS AND SISTERS. RISE AGAINST IT.

Ally, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I adopted it as a mistake, yeah. Embrace the glitch!

Tom, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My brain pronounces FuxoR as 'fuck-sore', yes.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it was DIDO! yes, that's who it was! on the sign promoting her album at the record store, her worldwide smash hit is spelled "thankyou." admit it, ewing, you STOLE it from her. just like eminem.

fred solinger, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

D Nick: I am appalled at your poor standards 5 years ago. I thought you, too, had a classy education.

the pinefox, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Knackers I just said "wuvly" to a colleague and got a funny looXoR.

Tom, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People so far have not batted an eyelid when I say pubXor. But a more acceptable "oR" combo for when in STRAIT LACED company = BooZoR.

ILE had defintely influenced the hate-filled slogans we wrote for the Essex Green on Saturday night, THOSE BASTARDS. Jools Holland is coming and he WUVS WOO, ver Essex Green you Pink Floyd tribute band yah boo spitZor.

Sarah, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I use twunt now and again usually to some bafflement. Over the past few weeks I've started using 'bonkus on the conkus' to descibe any unusual or or zealous behaviour, especially since it's now conkus picking season.

Billy Dods, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have started using "fuckpuppet". its starting to catch on with my friends, too.

di, Tuesday, 9 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i called my mom a mentalist today (!) she thought it was the greatest thing evah.

jess, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm starting to spew out Hanle yisms. I gotta get away from here I think.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Me at work yesterday: hey, are there any ATMs in this bitc.. er, building?

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i've been saying "as proven by science" all week.

jess, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i did wonder where that came from on here. me'n'me mates often use "it's been proved by scientists that..." e.g. "Julie Burchill is a chimp", occasionally elaborating the scientist accessories (clip- boards, white coats, conical flasks, etc)

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I dont know where DG got it from but it predates IL* for me - being a market research in-joke referring to the completely bogus and unscientific nature of the biz. cf. "Macy Gray Proved Boring By Science", tagline for the first focus group.

Tom, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Shampoo ads?

Nick, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I didn't consciously pinch it from anywhere, it just entered my vocabulary one day. Look out for that new L'Oreal ad with Catherine Deneuve in though, and wait for the killer line.

DG, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not quite vocab, but yesterday I typed an essay with <P> instead of paragraph breaks, like I do ILE posts.

Graham, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

During my first few weeks of school this year I used "big up" while explaining myself in a philosophy class. I was forced to seek alternate means of expression, though.

Josh, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
I've noticed that since July 4th certain ILXors have been cribbing my verbal style in a noticable fashion and I'm like, wtf?

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 9 August 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, wtf?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 9 August 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

when did ally take out a patent on the term "wtf"?

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 9 August 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

how you say, sorry? (some of us spoke that way before)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 August 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of you are not the people I was talking about.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 9 August 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"obv"

Mark C (Mark C), Sunday, 10 August 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I have started accusing my other half of hating fun whenever he doesn't want to go to the pub. And I have started saying "oh no [x], oh no!" far too much.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 10 August 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

it is impossible to say "oh no [x], oh no!"

the proud father (mark s), Sunday, 10 August 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

er, too much

bah (mark s), Sunday, 10 August 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone please tell me off if I ever start speaking like Ally K? Speaking like Ally C would be good though. I still laugh at "ne touche pas" = "no bums" hahahaha.

Sarah (starry), Sunday, 10 August 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

That's just bloody rude.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 10 August 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i like to think that i involve the word "cunting" much more into my daily conversations.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 10 August 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

no.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 10 August 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Yesterday in a meeting I said, "Taking Sides: pitiful versus incomprehensible."

Athey, Sunday, 10 August 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

btw, "wtf" has been around since the late 80s.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 10 August 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I find myself half-mumbling "wuhtuhfuh?" when I'm alone and something weird happens

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 10 August 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i was talking to a friend, calling someone a goddamn motherfucking rat-bastard piece-of-shit asshole fucktard (this guy...it's a long story). my friend was just like--"fucktard? that's a fantastic word! i have to start using that!".

i occasionally find myself saying that something is urgent and key.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 11 August 2003 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's interesting that I've already absorbed "classic or dud?", "urgent & key", and "who in this bitch..." into my online vocabulary, even though I've only been on here for what, four months? Awfully quick for me to be assimilated. You guys must be the Borg of the Internet. Resistance is futile, etc.

Offline, however, my vocab has yet to be affected. (Rest of crowd [in voice of Great Tyrant]: "Just you wait, my pretty pretty.")

Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 11 August 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i already told you i been saying "obv." since 1978 or 79, my friend phil in high school made that shit up, maryann brung it to ILX. i avoid all other ILXorisms, i find them corny

duane, Monday, 11 August 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

generally i manage to convince myself i invented them all (= obv eg)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 August 2003 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i convinced you you made them all up you mean

duane, Monday, 11 August 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
I have now managed to get these words used with alarmingly frequency amongst friends and also amongst many AFC Wimbledon fans:

Cockfarmer
Mentalist
Mentalism

Working hard on fucktard and ringstung arsehole.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, leave poor fucktard and his ringstung arsehole alone.

oops (Oops), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I was a little disturbed to see parenthetical exclamation marks in some of the essays in Chuck Klosterman's last book. I've never seen the mid-sentence surprise marks anywhere but ILX (though I suppose it's an Internet-wide thing).

miloazauckerman, Monday, 20 October 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope it is, ilx has enough problems without becoming the Bride of Chuckie.

Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I've stopped saying fuxor so much but increasingly frame arguments in T/S fashion.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Parenthetical exclamation marks like "this one time, when my aunt was walking her pet elephant (!!), this guy was all, 'hey, why do you have e pet elephant?'"? I had an elementary school teacher who used (!) and (?) a lot in hand-outs and comments and so forth. Klosterman probably just went to my school (?).

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Parenthetical exclamations are best when spoken aloud.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 20 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

The "[person], he/she has [endeavor] now." template has weasel'd its way into my IRL lexicon, as evidenced by me-to-my-boy-Kevin-yesterday: "Macho Man...he has rap album now!".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 October 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i now say LAME alot - british people do NOT use the word LAME.

jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

That's because you are all so very lame.

oops (Oops), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

things are definitely more crucial and key for me these days.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)


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