non-Hughes '80s teen movies

st. elmos fire is no teen flick dude

hotel new hampshire? lol

Ooooh. I was all set to post 'Lucas just over Say Anything' but then I saw River's Edge

I hope somebody votes Hotel New Hampshire; that movie is just way too looney

BETTER OFF DEAD

i dont think ive seen a single one of these movies...

ha yeah apparently St. Elmo's Fire is a college movie? i was thrown off by it having a bunch of the same actors from The Breakfast Club the same year they all played high school students, i guess.

anyhow voted fast times over heathers (the bookends), many others i regard very fondly though revisiting even the ones i'm pretty sure are actually really good (eg risky business) pretty much always diminishes them in my eyes.

anyway i am voting Real Genius narrowly over Better Off Dead. i always feel like i should like Heathers and Fast Times as much as other people do but i've never really gotten into them.

st elmos is post college, it's "about" that, it's also about the most vile group of yuppies ever captured on film, whit stillman eat yr heart out.

real genius one of the very very few that held up for me

I love how The Last American Virgin takes a dark, sad turn. That NEVER happened in teen films then and definitely not now.

Say Anything over Gregory's Girl (show Bill Forsythe some love, bitches) and Real Genius. For lots of these movies "wretched" is too kind.

Fast Times, Rivers Edge and Heathers are all good fun, but I think I may vote for Valley Girl.

Say Anything in a walk, for me.

funnily enough this can also double as a 'best curtis armstrong movie' poll

michelle meyrink you are missed

tamtam southland tales ain't up there dude

no The Boy Who Could Fly, no cred.

its a college movie but you put it in the poll and im voting for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3njjD41f48

Zapped! needed to be here

fast times probably but baby it's you and my bodyguard are good iirc

lol The Boy Who Could Fly, ain't seen or heard of that in a minute.

what the hell was the name of that movie, I think on Disney, about the kid that was a robot....

I need all six days to consider my vote very carefully. This is an important poll to me!

movies about college freshmen generally fit under the umbrella of teen movies imo, although obv i was sloppy with including one of the Revenge of the Nerds sequels in there

ahh I know which one it was, Not Quite Human!

one crazy summer is actually my preferred savage steve holland/cusack collab and i strongly considered voting for it

never really been into that one. love Cusack but the lols were fewer and far between than in the far superior Better Off Dead, imo.

Fewer in what?

Better off dead is pretty hard to beat.

baby it's you seems qualitatively different than the rest of these

lol The Boy Who Could Fly, ain't seen or heard of that in a minute.

Saw this in the theatre lol

One Crazy Summer is great...except for the Demi-as-aspiring-rockstar parts.

I would be kidding myself if I voted for anything other than say anything as my fav but there are some classics here.

my heart is breaking over the exclusion of The Legend of Billie Jean...but I guess it's not much of a comedy.

you know what could have been in this poll is pump up the volume. lol.

I was weirdly obsessed with dream a little dream when I was younger. It's an incredibly weird movie.

baby it's you seems qualitatively different than the rest of these

yeah, and gregory's girl

is that a coreys movie?

xp

TALK HARD

But neither is The Chocolate War or Less Than Zero or...

The Legend of Billie Jean should REALLY be here. xps to me

omg talk hard

Dream a Little Dream? Yeah, Coreys.

you know what could have been in this poll is pump up the volume. lol.

― horseshoe, Monday, June 20, 2011 10:51 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

1990!

oh i didn't even see "80s" sorry!

Gleaming the Cube would've been eligible, tho.

Surprised pump up the volume was 1990 tbh

also yeah Legend of Billie Jean

FAIR IS FAIR

I loved gleaming the cube.

I was a slater fan.

so many gems here, kinda wanna go with the "underrated" canonical pick Last American Virgin.

Disney boy robot movie = The Computer War Tennis Shoes (Kurt Russell) probably?

things list is missing:
Over the Edge

bunch of stuff that doesn't qualify (Nerds, Stand by Me, St. Elmos)

I have no idea what the first on-screen boobs I ever saw were... probably Porkys. funny how BOOBS was such a necessity/guiding principle for so many films

what about something like "Brighton Beach Memoirs"?

isn't he like 10 in that...? I don't remember it very well

he's almost 15!

and yet exploding heads were a-ok.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:11 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol my dad showed me Scanners when i was like 8 or something. he also showed me and my brother Rocky Horror Picture Show and a host of other movies at a young enough age to probably permanently scar and/or pervert us.

Can I just...

http://www.youtube.com/v/E1UGjjkJTwQ&fs=1&hl=en

some dude, I don't know what list you were looking at, but it was a dumb list.

― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:13 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

hey man give it a rest! i already said i drew from several lists (of which NONE of them listed this movie) and i'd never heard it. don't blame me, blame society. it's not like you were gonna vote for it anyway, be real.

haha i remember my dad letting us see silence of the lambs when it came out on video (i was probably 13, my sister 11). a few weeks later my mom and step dad rent it, i'm upstairs in bed, and about 1.5 hours in i hear "MOTHERFUCKER" from my mom. deduction leads me to believe this was during the buffalo bill tucks his sack scene.

it's not like you were gonna vote for it anyway, be real.

I really would have. In its place, I went with The Last American Virgin.

It's a shame The Legend of Billie Jean has never made it to dvd—music licensing issues is the claim—its rep is disappearing altogether because of it.

as I understand it, she was not Michael Jackson's lover; she's just a girl who said that he was the one (but the kid was not his son)

it's not without its pleasures, but it's a mess of a movie. the scene where yeardley smith gets her first period is lol. also the rich kid whose mansion they crash.

it is very proto-Thelma & Louise tho

wait we're defending The Legend of Billie Jean? Is it any good?

It's great! Ugh, why do I even bother.

I don't think it's great, but it is worth watching

I'm trying to think of a mainstream movie that's predates LTZ that prominently features gay hustling... is there one? (Cruising, I guess?

Midnight Cowboy? It won Best Picture and everything.

gay hustling not as prominent in Midnight Cowboy as most people tend to think/remember. Voight spends a grand total of ONE scene being propositioned by a guy in a bathroom that looks like Tom Hulce and iirc he turns him down and freaks out. which is a far cry from RDJ giving an on-screen bj while naked in return for coke.

er wait no the guy who propositions him is Bobby Balaban...?! can't remember

Voight also gets head in a movie theatre.

re: Billie Jean

The Joan of Arc nods are kind of heavy-handed (even thought so when I was younger) but aside from that it's a good rebellion tale starring a young, hot Helen Slater and one of Pat Benatar's best singles.

Plus Yeardly Smith, Christian Slater, Dean Stockwell, and Peter Coyote.

FAIR IS FAIR YALL

is that the Balaban scene? I haven't seen it in like 10 years.

xp

but yeah fair point Midnight Cowboy yeah. LTZ maybe just more blatant about it.

being propositioned by a guy in a bathroom that looks like Tom Hulce

all bathrooms look like Tom Hulce to me tho

In LTZ the novel the bisexuality is fairly explicit - and fairly unconvincing, like lots of Ellis.

gay hustling not as prominent in Midnight Cowboy as most people tend to think/remember. Voight spends a grand total of ONE scene being propositioned

You're not counting the John McGiver or Barnard Hughes scenes.

i think just one of the guys was my second tit flick.

stripes even had bush.

I think the first movie I ever saw boobs in was Kramer v. Kramer. Woohoo.

BTW they were Dustin Hoffman's boobs.

IIRC, in LTZ the book there is a fairly graphic paragraph detailing how difficult it is when dried-up semen sticks your tongue to the roof of your mouth

One Crazy Summer is on TV right now...Joe Flaherty's speech is so classic

Joe Flaherty is classic.

Got The Last American Virgin off netflix. Egads, that "I Will Follow" sequence...

Less Than Zero could've been a great 80s black-and-white movie, a la Stranger Than Paradise and Chan is Missing, but glossy.

Speaking of firsts, was there a scene somewhere where Tom Selleck dropped his pants to reveal male frontal nudity, maybe in 9-5 or something? That really traumatized me.

did it have its own mustache?

Probably. I tried to block it out. The memory, not the mustache.

uh Tom Selleck is not in 9-to-5

his penis is, tho (credited as "Dabney Coleman")

Apparently Selleck goes full frontal in "An Innocent Man" (89) but that's a bit late for me to have been traumatized. Maybe it was just some random mustachioed man who ruined my childhood.

Hot Dog: The Movie
Private Lessons
Midnight Madness

Voted Fast Times.

By the way, watched "My Bodyguard" for the first time in many decades last weekend and detected a homoerotic subtext I hadn't noticed back when I was the film's target audience. Anyone else notice this or am I just getting gayer as I age?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

never saw these results!

why would anyone vote for Risky Business, honestly, idgi

^^^Bob Seger is a lurker.

http://the-toast.net/2014/09/30/sexual-racial-politics-nerd-culture-dialogue/

Interesting--and, to my memory, spot on--observations on Revenge of the Nerds. I doubt that there is anything that they're talking about here that was at all out of sync with the sexual politics of the time (Animal House, RotN's own "urtext," contains a similarly rapey gag, remember), but as this film seems to enjoy a better reputation than the most of the others listed in this thread, probably worth minding nonetheless.

i have never seen this movie and literally the only thing i know about it is rape. it's because i've read thinkpieces, obv, but i could prob have just deduced it from the title.

The Last American Virgin is out on blu-ray May 26. Budget accordingly.

^^That one got a Criterion-style release on blu from Arrow in the UK.

Class 1

I was curious enough about this film--having caught pieces on it cable as a kid--to pay $1 for a VHS copy at Goodwill some time ago, and now having finally watched it I'm not sure how there even exists one person in the world who thinks that Class is superior to Say Anything, Heathers, My Bodyguard or even Fast Times at Ridgemont High, but it is not unwatchable. It actually flirts with sympathy for the Jacqueline Bisset character, though in the end her character remains underwritten to the point I actually got angry with the film for diverting scenes that could be devoted to fleshing out her character in favour dumb slapstick, teenage stoner antics and a boring test-cheating subplot. It's not a good movie, but there are moments where it feels like it is striving towards being a good one, and that's more than can be said for many of its contemporaries--or the still inexplicably overrated American Pie, for that matter.