The greatest athlete ever?

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Why is Mildred Didrikson-Zaharias not one of the most famous people of the Twentieth Century? Why, when the greatest athletes are discussed, does she not get much of a mention? Some info, in case you are wondering who I'm talking about...

She was born in Texas in 1914. At 16 she led her basketball team to three national titles. At 18, she entered the national athletics' club championships. She won the shot putt, long jump, high jump, baseball throw, hurdles and javelin, setting three new world records, in the space of two and a half hours. She was the only representative of her club, and she beat the second place club (which used 22 athletes) by a clear 8 points. (She still holds the world record in the baseball throw, an event only abandoned in 1957.)

She was only allowed to enter three events in the Olympics that year, so she went for one each of the three main types. Javelin: world record, gold medal; 80m hurdles: world record, gold medal; high jump: world record and first, but she was denied the gold medal for using the Western Roll technique (the Olympic authorities changed their mind later).

After an interval playing pro baseball and basketball (and skipping over her reported excellence at tennis, diving, swimming, bowling, lacrosse, skating and billiards) she took up golf. She became the best in the world, naturally, at one point winning 17 tournaments in a row. When she turned pro, she lost only once in seven years.

How many of you had even heard of this woman? Don't be embarrassed if you haven't, because Chamber's Biographical Dictionary doesn't rate her among the 20,000 people worth covering, and my two sets of encyclopaedias don't mention her. Her autobiography is no longer in print, even in America. I'm inclined to think that if a man (especially a white American, as she was) had a list of achievements anything like that he'd be as famous as Muhammed Ali, say, and would have been the subject of countless biopics (there was one in 1975, starring Susan Clark and Alex Karras, which is hardly the big time).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Blimeyhe hell hasn't she received as much coverage as other ggreat sportspeople??

Mind you I can't see that a black woman athlete in 1920's/1930's USA would have received much coverage at all, surprised she hasn't been covered since though.

Where did you get the info Martin?

chris (chris), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:17 (twenty-three years ago)

blimey just read your question more carefully and she was white? One less reason why she wouldn't have received coverage.

chris (chris), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I had heard of her once or twice before, and mentioned her widely, to people who had never heard of her. That info above mostly came from an item in the sports section of today's Independent On Sunday, plus some Googling. As for race, Jesse Owens was a top black male athlete in the '30 and is well remembered: I think that black people were allowed to excel physically then, but athletic women were regarded with considerable suspicion.

Incidentally, the Zaharias in her name came from her marriage to George Zaharias, a pro wrestler known as The Crying Greek From Cripple Creek! And she was nicknamed Babe because of large number of home runs when she played baseball as a youngster.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember seeing something about a top British tennis player of the same time who was amazing, swept all before her, however was not allowed to join or play at many clubs in this country as she was Jewish.

chris (chris), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Babe Zaharias, great person, great athlete. I knew about a number of her achievements but not all of them -- thanks for the fuller portrait!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:48 (twenty-three years ago)

"Why is Mildred Didrikson-Zaharias not one of the most famous people of the Twentieth Century? Why, when the greatest athletes are discussed, does she not get much of a mention?"

Probably because she was born in 1914, and therefore at her peak before the golden age of television and so forth. How many great atheletes from the 19th Century can you name?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:56 (twenty-three years ago)

John Sullivan and er um ah...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

That's clearly a factor Matt, but we remember Jesse Owens and Babe Ruth and others - they are famous names not just in America but beyond. As for the Nineteenth, organised leagues and both national and international competition were just getting started at the end of that century, so there wouldn't be much to choose from.

I put too much focus on this as if it was a PC objection to the canon: I am just overwhelmed by her achievements and wanted to share her, and especially the insanity of entering and winning the national clubs contest as an individual. When I was young most British comics had a sporting element, but I don't remember anything that implausible. (For the record, the second place team had less than three-quarters the points she gained solo!)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 12:14 (twenty-three years ago)

The greatest athlete ever is Bontcho Gutchnev. The only footballer to play both for Real Madrid and in the Ryman's League.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember him at Ipswich - for a while he was the only top division player whose first name might have got him in the Marx Brothers.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Babe Didrikson is better known in America. I think she's pretty much acknowledged as one of the greatest American athletes of all time -- at least she rated pretty high when ESPN did its top 100 athletes of the 20th century.

She was said to have one the most fluid, perfect running strides ever seen, man or woman. I really wish I could see a film of it but I don't know if any exists.

I think Secretariat may have been the greatest athlete ever.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

wasn't in guentchev? played for hendon didn't he?

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, he's still there. He was in the Football Fives tournament a few weeks back, playing for Ipswich. Great old laugh those games are, Hoddle scored some crackers for Spurs.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm fairly sure I've seen footage of Didrikson at the LA games, unless I'm getting her big grin mixed up with that of Fanny Blankers-Koen. I always associate Didrikson with Jim Thorpe (aka Wathahuck-Brightpath), the Native American sporting great of the first two decades of the last century, probably because I read about their achievements as a kid and the 1910s seemed very much like the 1920s... they weren't really contemporaries, though.

I suspect Thorpe is much more famous - he's been on stamps and so forth...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 26 August 2002 22:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Babe Didrikson is one of the few athletes I have heard of.

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 00:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Rod Stewart, if the rumors are true.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 02:45 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
Actually, Didriksen didn't even rate as the top woman for ESPN. That was Jackie Joyner-Kersee.

That said, the ESPN SportsCentury website has a biography of Anna Kournikova but nothing for Pele, so that shows who they're publishing for.

NickH, Friday, 27 September 2002 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

bring back buck... ho ho ho

Kiwi, Friday, 27 September 2002 13:45 (twenty-three years ago)


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