new pronunciation of the alphabet?

sorry ILPMers i want to cast this one wider -

Apparently kids are being taught to say "ah" "buh" "cuh" or something now, instead of "ay" "bee" "cee"? Can this be right??

My kid learned "ay' "bee" "cee" just a couple of years ago. Maybe this is some alternative method you've stumbled upon?

On the other hand, he says "criss-cross applesauce" instead of "indian style".

sounds like the eventual muslim takeover of america

first they took away our lightbulbs. and now this!

straight bananas! the metric system! etc

It's phonics, isn't it? It's meant to make it easier to learn to read, although it's controversial. It goes in and out of fashion in the UK.

I don't know about that, but they had this really strange alphabet chart in my daughter's kindergarten that was supposed to be more phonics based or something. So it had like a picture of a horse under the letter N since of course, a horse says "neigh"!? it was... bizarre.

oh yeah, it was the open court reading chart. here's someone's comment about it

I have the open court sound cards in my room and it was a disaster. For example, for A there is a picture of a lamb, N is a horses face (for nose, guess they couldn’t draw a human nose?), Y is a yak, and T is a tug boat. ...I couldn’t figure out why students kept telling me that horse started with the letter N, even when they could correctly produce the /n/ sound. ... The X card literally just has a red X on it. That’s helpful.

It makes a strange kind of sense - if you want to associate 'a' with a sound, the 'ah' in lamb is a reasonable one to pick. The same is probably true of 'nuh' / nose, and so on. When you start to do that with visual aids, though, it's going to get ridiculously confusing.

a for a lamb because it's "'a' lamb"

"p" for a photomontage

N for nose makes sense, but it's a picture of a horse's head!

also it's not referring to the "'ah' in lamb" (I don't think we have any ah in our lamb in the US) but to the fact that lambs go baaaaaa.

do americans say lemb?

that doesn't even work because sheep don't say "baa," they say "nneh"

lamb is pronounced /læm/. ah is pronounced /ɑ/

that doesn't even work because sheep don't say "baa," they say "nneh"

it might have been black?

found it

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kY4nofM6CYc/TbjSQCa77FI/AAAAAAAAAeI/VDekyyHrQO0/s1600/OC+Sound+Spelling+Cards.png

so apparently E is a chicken, H is a dog, and I is a pig, Q for duck of course, U for tugboat, O is for fox doctor?

E for egg I guess? Why are the vowels out of order? Arhg! That whole chart hurts my head.

this is what a rodeo legend gets for raising his child amongst forriners

E = hEn w/Egg I assume

most of them you will notice incorporate multiple instances of the letter sound in question

bouncing basketball, dancing dinosaur, happy hound?

(using the camera twice just seems lazy tho)

I guess the pig is probably supposed to be giggling

except that foreigners (the french) would have ducks saying "coin coin" and sheep saying "behhh".

Pig is supposed to illustrate the short i sound in the word pig. The idea being that long vowels are obvious because they just say the name of the letters, so it's more important to illustrate the short vowels. Still, I don't think an igloo is too obscure for a kindergardener.

and yeah, egg for E obv. but across a room? The first thing you think isn't "chicken"?

Why are the vowels out of order?

I guess that's a picture of a set of cards, so there isn't really an order, and some random person probably scanned them in and put this online.

ROBOT WITH A RAKE
ROBOT WITH A RAKE

no, as far as I know, the alphabet is still pronounced "ab cuh def gee jekyll muh nop qruh stu witz iz"

FOot covered in bandaids and what look like warts or something ew.

can someone explain the picture for "ng"? I see an Asian king bowing beneath a gong. is this supposed to be some racist "ching chong" thing? because I am not okay with that.

No its just a kiNG, who is sleepiNG, under a goNG :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5er4ueWBQ

lol was waiting for someone to post that (which is what I stole my post from)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcITeGy-U6w

re: sesame st., there's subtle differences between 1960s and 1980s versions! phonological shifting going on! fricatives to glottals!

my kindergarten teacher ca 1986 was all up on some new version of the song that prevented the tangly ELEMENO part

ABCDEFG
HIJKLMN...
OPQ
RST
WXY and Z

I was like 6 on some that's not how it goes, super pissed that she was butchering a classic

where did UV go???

it's running down my pants

My daughter used to say "H I J K and a little P."

lol

Sorry it was

ABCDEFG
HIJKLMN
OPQ
RST
UVWXYZ

A lot of american educational innovations remind me of those lazy man shortcuts that don't really save you time, like when you try to brush your teeth while peeing

brush your pee while teething

what's wrong with ELEMENO??!

can i get a report on the "Z" pronunciation? is it zee or zed?!

i need to hear the real news, from the streets

Maybe they should also break up the pledge of allegiance to avoid "antutha republic, for widget stands"

"don't waste your time on me, you're already a voice inside my zed"

I used to think it was "ella menna pee".

I was first taught my letters in the ah, buh, cuh style. They were still using it when I last helped out at a primary school.

As far as the zee/zed thing, there are areas of Scotland where people pronounce 'J' to rhyme with eye rather than bay.

hey they do that on my street in hackney too!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1520000/images/_1523708_alphabet2_300.gif

this is how i learned to read, i wouldn't sweat changing fashions in the world of teaching, it only affects the working class kids anyway

Why is "H" a dog??

H is for hair. Dog hair, it's everywhere

I don't even know what D is unless D is for Deformed Drawing.

I guess using animals for the sound they make rather than their name might be a useful concept if you didn't have other letters being animals because of their names on the same poster. Q for Quack and N for Neigh (if that even is what N is for) is just confusing on the same chart as L for Lion and Y for Yak.

(yeah my brain kept going "...hound?" but that too would be kinda weird on a simple-words-for-kidz chart. Is it howling? hopping? eh)

Man NV did you really use ITA in school? It seems like a very bad idea north of Watford. Visions of Liverpudlian kids baffled at being asked to spell "book".

ha i never considered that. yeah we learned ITA and then moved onto Traditional Orthography or whatever around 8. didn't appear to impede my reading but i'm not much sure what the point was other than accentual imperialism from the RP mob

btw with the phonics mimes i don't think it matters that the connection is very logical, it is just a question of getting the kids to remember the sounds and it seems to work okay

D is a Dancing Dinosaur!

If I'd made the chart, it would be Deadbeat Dad.

NV why were you taught to read by Chaucer?

assume that somebody in our local authority bought a bulk order of the Canterbury Tales in the early 70s. alternatively:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_Teaching_Alphabet