2012 republican presidential nominee II: back into hell

Romney vs. Perry right now, could go either way imho

Nice--all that's missing is iatee's "something weird" option.

http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/kang-and-kodos.jpg

man I have no idea how it plays out after somebody gets the nomination. I think the horse race right now is between romney and perry, and I think the party gives it to perry because he'll be more willing to be aggressively an asshole. I do think perry will be a hard guy for the Democrats to beat because they don't know how to deal with somebody that aggro. Mitt just lacks the killer instinct though I think -- he has that pathetic "please, give me this, I really want it" vibe to his campaigning. Perry conveys confidence, which voters like - I think Bachmann does well for the same reason, but she's kinda lawful evil whereas Perry is chaotic evil. the advantage to chaotic evil is deniability; lawful evil has to stick to its guns.

frankly I think elections would go much better if candidates were forced to declare alignment

Why is Huntsman even here except to anger a googling Perry staff member?

you geeks are gonna have a new thread for every primary, God Almighty. I really need to quit these.

stop smelling rick perry's shirt

huntsman here cuz amster had him as a frontrunner and that just amused the hell out of me

Cain/Summer '12

"...leaving me hear on my own."

gonna save my vote but if I were voting right now 'perry will win the nomination but not the white house'

Most of the time, however, Perry upheld the traditional Texas economic model. If Perry is nominated for president in 2012, the Texas model is the model Republicans will again offer Americans, for the third time in the past four presidential elections. Compared with Obama's free-spending liberalism, it may seem the lesser evil. But you have to imagine that there are millions of Americans hoping for a third choice: an approach that balances budgets and holds the line on taxes -- but that also strengthens the private economy and supports a broad middle class.

That third choice is the kind of active, effective government Republicans have championed since Abraham Lincoln signed into law the transcontinental railway. Won't at least one Republican speak up for it now when it has rarely been more needed?

lol @ Frum

kill em all and let mammon sort them out.

good thing we have two of these thread so far, cant wait to purchase the box set

Was he a sportscaster? I've only heard of him RECREATING baseball games that were happening elsewhere off a teletype. An excellent head start in embellishing.

― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Monday, August 15, 2011 2:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a p impressive skill tbf

Once, the ticker gave out and he made some player hit balls foul for 20 minutes.

balances budgets and holds the line on taxes -- but that also strengthens the private economy and supports a broad middle class...

... plus kills all the poor, sick and weak, electrocutes lawbreakers, and distributes free lollipops and puppies to all blue-eyed children.

ha those pictures on the previous thread...I went to A&M and the fact that Perry was in the Corp pretty much tells you all you need to know about him.

I've already expressed my thoughts on Texas enough times here, but fuckin' Aggies are the worst.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YTepCLMf_I

ha those pictures on the previous thread...I went to A&M and the fact that Perry was in the Corp pretty much tells you all you need to know about him.

― ryan, Monday, August 15, 2011 3:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

plz do tell, these pix are just like i dont even know

http://static.texastribune.org/media/images/AM-Perry_jpg_800x1000_q100.jpg

He looks like he's answering a personals ad: "Interested in: collies and bugger."

*buggery

Perry didn't top 40% in the 2006 election, even right-wing Texans don't really like him. I have a hard time believing he can run nationally.

"Yell" leaders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU8mL1639uo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Xjrs2mqqE

reading up on him perry seems to have a frequent tendency to say things that almost everyone disagrees with like 'social security is unconstitutional' and 'texas should leave usa'

40%? was that some crazy MN-style situation with 3rd candidacies and such?

xp to milo

I only disagree with one of those things.

xp

lol mee too

people keep bringing up 2006 but it was a 4 way race.
he won easily in 2002 & 2010

that boots pic is perfect for "Lili Marleeen" or "Tomorrow Belongs to Me"

reading up on him perry seems to have a frequent tendency to say things that almost everyone disagrees with like 'social security is unconstitutional' and 'texas should leave usa'
--ice cr?m

who disagrees w/ #2?

Right, but he was a sitting Governor who'd faced no real challenges and ran into a 4-way race. He won easily in his other races because it's a one-party state - if he placates enough of the TX Baptists to keep the nomination, it's a guaranteed win.
Perry's got a lot of ethical skeletons in his closet and he's so far right (wildly more right-wing than Dubya was in 2000) that while he could win the nomination, I don't see how he could win a national campaign.

Once you've called for secession, I think moderates have a hard time voting for you.

what if unemployment hits 10%

Secession? He'll reframe it as a joke. Easy enough to do, unless there was a whole lot of obviously serious follow-through trying to make it happen.

really tho in any normal country the secessionist shit would be enough to disqualify him from running the country he doesn't want to be a part of. this is America tho, so I think it will 'be an issue' for a week or so and then the media will move on.

feel like the secession comment could easily become an 'al gore invented the internet' type sticky joke

has rickperryhatesamerica.com been purchased

Guy who wanted to secede or Guy born in Kenya whose wife hates USA.

xp!

I've been waiting for a batshit Corner post today and could find nothing :(

http://c0848462.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/783c103a9fe02e127e7c97185be0c5ec712c80deb6.jpg

if governor perry wants to start his own country with no social security i wish him all the luck in the world *smirk*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4tWZNxnABk

He'll reframe it as a joke. Easy enough to do, unless there was a whole lot of obviously serious follow-through trying to make it happen.

I'm thinking of that scene in The Candidate where the brain trust is sitting around planning strategy, they're trying to figure out what to say about Vietnam, and somebody comes up the idea to brush any questions off by saying, "The Communists can't even see the beaches of Santa Monica, much less land on them." Everyone laughs, they're ready to move on, and someone says, "But do we really want to say that?"

So if he does come up with a clever dodge, yeah, I would hope there'd be some follow-up.

there was secessionist shit with palin's husband's political affiliations, remember?

yeah, and she didn't become Vice-President

not todd's fault!

Remember it well. It kind of got lost in the shuffle of everything else with her, and maybe the same thing will happen with Perry.

stating the obvious: its a lot easier to ignore something a vp candidates husbands friends said than something the pres candidate himself said

the opening is fine it was his glassy eyed rambling later on that was uncomfortable/sad

yeah but there's this myth that that was a horrible moment. That he just said that out of the blue.

oh, ok. but later he did actually drift away from the lectern and wander around stage while others were answering questions. it was weird. i think people referring to that moment are just using it as a shorthand for the overall meltdown of his debate appearance. poor guy.

yeah I remember him answering questions with complete non-sequiturs + uncomfortable silences. it was weird. like watching someone with alzheimers being ridiculed on nat'l TV

he did in fact have alzheimer's.

:(

that's weird if there's some myth about "who am I? why am I here?" as a bad moment - it was actually his best moment that night iirc, a hilarious scripted breath of fresh air.

like when Palin said, "Can I call ya JOE?"

yeah it shows up over and over as one of the "worst debate moments" xp

Hope it didn't seem like I was posting the Stockdale clip to ridicule him--it was a funny moment, and my comment below the clip makes it clear I liked him too. I think his connection to Perot was that Perot had done a lot of work (actual negotiating, even) to get POWs returned from Vietnam, and that Stockdale was one of them. It was a bad pick because Stockdale was clearly unprepared for the intense scrutiny of a nationally televised debate and a presidential campaign. Ditto the guy at the beginning of the clip, the difference being that Stockdale wasn't a career politician and had a legitimate excuse.

lmao http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/barney-frank-i-thought-the-gingrich-group-was-his-wives-1.php

the best joek is at the end:

The comedy routine continued as Matthews brought up a recent interview with former lobbyist and convicted felon Jack Abramoff’s in which he said Gingrichs was “engaged in the exact kind of corruption that America disdains.”

“Don’t you mean ‘historian’ Jack Abramoff?” Frank deadpanned.

barney frank FTW

hahaha

loool

Barney Frank is fantastic

...at zings and telling righty nuts to go to hell. I wish he was more committed to meaningful financial reform.

why would he? He's gay and wants to preserve his standard of living.

needs to keep himself in rent boys

Dead, slow-floating fish in a barrel:

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/97553/newt-gingrich-terrible-things-list

what is newt's brand of churchin'? (don't say 'money')

Only4RM TMiami -- Dear Dems, PLEASE LET NEWT SURGE. Keep your oppo dry for the general. Thanks. @billburton716 @PaulBegala @davidaxelrod daxelrod @DWStweets

PLEASE LET NEWT SURGE

romney called the supercomittee process a "faustian bargain" - nice!

anyone watch todays debate, no ilx liveblog :(

“The fact is, I do no lobbying, I have never done any lobbying,” Gingrich said. “I am a strategic adviser. Anyone who watched any of these debates knows I’m capable of being a strategic adviser.”

lol

"I'm capable of any position within the executive branch, especially say - cabinet member..."

is that gingrich?

lol.

he is also capable of being a buyer for tiffany's. or a fry cook at denny's. or arby's.

also bron is obvs a choker and horrible coward everyone knows

lol wrong t

no no makes sense here.

LEBRON JAMES IS UNFIT TO BE THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE BECAUSE HE IS A CHOKER AND A HORRIBLE COWARD AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT

otm

really wish this was the year Ditka was eyeing politics instead of 04-- can you imagine?

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There is definitely some humor in watching the Republican's going through their own 7 dwarves primary.

and watching you fucking you mother too thats funny too actually

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Get in here, Santorum-Gergen goons.

(Is there any way to delete Mr. Newgod's posts? To paraphrase RN, this is a respectable Republican-wingnut thread.)

Thank you, moderator. I can now wistfully relive the first stirrings of the the Gingrich surge unencumbered.

Those are the stirrings of the Tera Patrick surge.

Joe Klein: "But this is it: only one can emerge as a plausible candidate after this contest. And if past South Carolina campaigns are any indication, this could be brutal--especially now that Gingrich is indicating that he’s about to go feral."

Homer Simpson (and me): "Mmmmmmmmm...feral."

I can't remember who first noted this on twitter, but I really wish all talking heads would google "santorum" before tossing around phrases like "Santorum surge" all willy-nilly.

Ryan Lizza said something similar a couple of days ago in a funny piece about what outcomes the media are hoping for tomorrow:

5. Rick Santorum wins Iowa and much of the English-speaking world Googles his name.

Try it yourself, but please not at work or when children are in the room.

So I tried it. And now I see what you mean.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/12/lizza-list-top-five-electoral-outcomes-journalists-are-secretly-rooting-for.html

2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

nu-ilx, nu-thread

I was kind of hoping for "2012 Republican Presidential Nominee III: Get in Here, Wild Gossipy Political Horserace Goons," but thanks anyway--this one's way too long by now.