place names that do or have required a definite article

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bonus points for historical examples

the levant
the palatinate
the caucasus

i guess (the) ukraine is beyond this now, but perhaps we still have (the) crimea

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

the nile river valley

one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

the mississippi delta

one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

the rockies

one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

The Lake of the Ozarks

Trip Maker, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

political units, then

den haag

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

the Argentine (archaic)

boxall, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Irish_Riviera_%28disambiguation%29

lol

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

the boogie down bronx

chief content officer (m coleman), Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

the ______ coast (ideally 'north' and referring to cleveland)

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

The OC.

nickn, Sunday, 21 August 2011 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

the earth

RR, Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:18 (fourteen years ago)

the 101
the 405
the 10
the 110
the 105

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:42 (fourteen years ago)

your mom

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

The Southland
The Valley
The Inland Empire
The Westside
The Eastside

the wheelie king (wk), Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:34 (fourteen years ago)

The Hague

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:38 (fourteen years ago)

The Sudan.
The Antarctic.

fields of salmon, Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:44 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEsRYkRpySY

Shrimpkin mæchen barfen (Eisbaer), Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:48 (fourteen years ago)

The Dalles, OR
The Palouse
The UP

joygoat, Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

The Gambia

a lot of these are hangovers from imperialism iirc

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 07:55 (fourteen years ago)

The Lebanon
The Congo
The Wirral

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 07:57 (fourteen years ago)

the calton
the garngad
the gallowgate
the falls road
the shankhill road

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:00 (fourteen years ago)

Ugh, I hate it when columnists insist on The King's Road, The Edgware Road etc for any old place around London. The M6 is fair play though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:03 (fourteen years ago)

i guess (the) ukraine is beyond this now, but perhaps we still have (the) crimea

There isn't a definite article in Russian. I get the impression that 'the Crimea' is slowly being phased out in English when talking about the modern region but is still used almost universally when talking about the war / historical region.

goldie hawn (ShariVari), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:05 (fourteen years ago)

The Lizard

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:06 (fourteen years ago)

The Weald

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:12 (fourteen years ago)

The Great Orme

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:16 (fourteen years ago)

but "Orme's Head" no "the"

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:21 (fourteen years ago)

The Wrekin

to "go round the Wrekin" is a phrase used by my old man meaning to take a circuitous route either literally or metaphorically

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:23 (fourteen years ago)

the old transvaal
the bermuda triangle

estela, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:30 (fourteen years ago)

the morning side of the mountain
the twilight side of the hill

estela, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:32 (fourteen years ago)

the bronx

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:43 (fourteen years ago)

The Bronx is my favourite, it raises the possibility of there being a single Bronck somewhere therein.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:54 (fourteen years ago)

it makes me think of the sphinx

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:54 (fourteen years ago)

there should be a sphinx of the bronx

also spanx, i guess

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:54 (fourteen years ago)

the ned raggett

buzza, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:55 (fourteen years ago)

the yukon

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:56 (fourteen years ago)

The Massif Central sounds like a Dutch hiphop crew

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 August 2011 08:59 (fourteen years ago)

"i guess (the) ukraine is beyond this now, but perhaps we still have (the) crimea"

"There isn't a definite article in Russian.

― goldie hawn (ShariVari), Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:05 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark"

iirc there's an issue of whether to use 'v' or 'na' to say 'in ukraine'. I think na implies it's still a province.

Vasco da Gama, Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:43 (fourteen years ago)

That London

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:56 (fourteen years ago)

The Wisconsin Dells

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:35 (fourteen years ago)


The Dalles, OR
The Palouse
The UP

― joygoat, Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:58 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

Da UP

kkvgz, Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:57 (fourteen years ago)

The Woodlands, TX

kkvgz, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:00 (fourteen years ago)

The People's Republic of Cork

Can't Stop the Rop (seandalai), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:36 (fourteen years ago)

The Netherlands

Can't Stop the Rop (seandalai), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:39 (fourteen years ago)

the fens

old money entertainment (history mayne), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

The Boondocks

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

The River ________

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:46 (fourteen years ago)

the maghreb

old money entertainment (history mayne), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:49 (fourteen years ago)

the negev

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)

The Holloway Road.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:14 (six years ago)

The Gorbals.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

The Trongate. I'm sure Glasgow has a lot of these.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

The Hurlet. An area between Paisley and Glasgow, which only exists as the name of carvery now but people still refer to it.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:22 (six years ago)

... and the carvery is closing too, so the Hurlet is now literally a stretch of road and some fields.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:25 (six years ago)

And, of course, most towns in the UK will have the High Street.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:36 (six years ago)

six months pass...

the sahel

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:40 (six years ago)

The Nullarbor

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:27 (six years ago)

Did we mention itt that a lot of the time the "the" is added because the name refers to a geographical feature? Like the Ukraine because ukraine derives from "borderland", the Philippines because they're the Philippine islands, the sahel because sahel derives from coast in arabic, the Gambia because the small country's whole territory is along the Gambia river (the Congo for the DRC similarly due to an eponymous river), the Sudan because Sudan is short for "bilad-as-sudan" ("the land of the blacks") etc

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 14 November 2019 06:15 (six years ago)

The Lebanon because of the mountain

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 14 November 2019 06:19 (six years ago)

Hometownpeninsula thoughts... I guess the Wirral might fit that pattern, with the common usage of the definite article coming from 'The Wirral Peninsula'.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:17 (six years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida

tempted by the fruit of your mother (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:03 (six years ago)

The Hamptons

(loads here in the Netherlands. The country's name kind of gives it away)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

The Colony, Texas

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:13 (six years ago)

The Trossachs

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:15 (six years ago)

The Wash

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:22 (six years ago)

The Shore (as part of the New Jerseyism "We're going down the shore this weekend.")

Hideous Lump, Friday, 15 November 2019 03:24 (six years ago)

define The Shore

like, atlantic city to cape may, or something else

mookieproof, Friday, 15 November 2019 05:28 (six years ago)

the ohio state university

na (NA), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

I'm sure Glasgow has a lot of these.

The Broomielaw

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:22 (six years ago)

Edinburgh meanwhile has The Meadows.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:24 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/sRUdP8I.png

Would venture to guess that exactly zero people have ever called it that.

pplains, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:23 (six years ago)

London: The City; The Elephant; The Borough (?)

fetter, Friday, 15 November 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

The Oranges (cities in Jersey)
The Fairfields (towns in CT)

These are both along the I-95 corridor, weird that no one mentioned them previously

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:45 (six years ago)

the elephant and the city yes, not the borough.

Fizzles, Friday, 15 November 2019 21:56 (six years ago)

six months pass...

I'm sure Glasgow has a lot of these.

The Calton.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:15 (five years ago)

the cowley road (oxford)

closed beta (NotEnough), Saturday, 13 June 2020 21:09 (five years ago)

The Grove, Texas
The Village, Oklahoma
The Plains, Virginia

pplains, Saturday, 13 June 2020 21:26 (five years ago)

The Plains is home to Great Meadow.. ok.

pplains, Saturday, 13 June 2020 21:27 (five years ago)

the barracks
the bungo

||||||||, Saturday, 13 June 2020 21:34 (five years ago)

Lots of distinctive geographic features use the definite article, e.g. The Grand Canyon (of the Colorado), The Panhandle (of Texas or Idaho), The Great Lakes, etc.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:31 (five years ago)

seven months pass...

Le Plateau/The Plateau in Montreal. Fantastic sour beers.

fields of salmon, Friday, 22 January 2021 00:56 (five years ago)

La Manche

(The English Channel in French)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:24 (five years ago)

The Islets of Langerhans

Hideous Lump, Friday, 22 January 2021 05:43 (five years ago)

Preposition + definite article

Unter den Linden

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2021 05:49 (five years ago)

The Shore (as part of the New Jerseyism "We're going down the shore this weekend.")

― Hideous Lump, Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:24 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

define The Shore

like, atlantic city to cape may, or something else

― mookieproof, Friday, November 15, 2019 12:28 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I would say that for most Jerseyans who regularly go "down the shore," it means whichever beach town you've been going to since you were a kid. My "down the shore" is Lavallette.

Hideous Lump, Friday, 22 January 2021 05:56 (five years ago)

There's also the linguistic phenomenon where you give your town a jokey nickname that uses the definite article, as in "The O.C." or "the Illadelph," or my hometown version of this, "The Banks" for Fairbanks, AK. Where did this come from? What is it modeling itself on?

Lily Dale, Friday, 22 January 2021 06:21 (five years ago)

two months pass...

I’d like to know this too

In “the” UK there’s “the ends” which just means pretty much any working class neighbourhood

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:49 (four years ago)

The Philippines

The Azores

The Seychelles

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:52 (four years ago)

The Caucasus

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:53 (four years ago)

In “the” UK there’s “the ends” which just means pretty much any working class neighbourhood

That's just a London thing isn't it?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:02 (four years ago)

Rivers have this. Most mountains don't... apart from The Eiger and The Matterhorn?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:07 (four years ago)

As an ESL teacher, articles are one of the worst, most arcane aspects of the English language.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:19 (four years ago)

The definite article with names

We do not normally use the definite article with names:

William Shakespeare wrote Hamlet.
Paris is the capital of France.
Iran is in Asia.

But we do use the definite article with:

countries whose names include words like kingdom, states or republic:

the United Kingdom
the Kingdom of Bhutan
the United States
the People's Republic of China

 countries which have plural nouns as their names:

the Netherlands
the Philippines

geographical features, such as mountain ranges, groups of islands, rivers, seas, oceans and canals:

the Himalayas
the Canaries
the Atlantic (Ocean)
the Amazon
the Panama Canal

newspapers:

The Times
The Washington Post

well-known buildings or works of art:

the Empire State Building
the Taj Mahal
the Mona Lisa

organisations:

the United Nations
the Seamen's Union

hotels, pubs and restaurants:

the Ritz
the Ritz Hotel
the King's Head
the Déjà Vu

But note that we do not use the definite article if the name of the hotel or restaurant is the name of the owner:

Brown's
Brown's Hotel
Morel's
Morel's Restaurant

families:

the Obamas
the Jacksons
https://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/english-grammar-reference/definite-article-the

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:30 (four years ago)

Tom yeah I think you're right

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:32 (four years ago)

yes, no the for most mountains, or for that matter lakes, or magazines

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:34 (four years ago)

the plus street name seems to crop up a lot when talking about non-British streets for some reason, e.g. "in the Mariahilferstraße"

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:53 (four years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/Ai3o1Mo.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:59 (four years ago)

OT: I get why it's Rio Bravo and Mississippi River, but why is it Lake Michigan and Great Salt Lake?

pplains, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:03 (four years ago)

four years pass...

The Minch

Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 July 2025 23:36 (six months ago)


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