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― plax (ico), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
^^
finally found occasion to use accent grave and acute accent from character map bingo!!
― dell (del), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
literary theory is great, though. i guess everyone needs bangles
― dell (del), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
weird that you just started this thread—I checked out a bunch of Cixous from the library just yesterday (Selected Plays, Hyperdream, The Neuter, and a recent short book on Beckett)
Stigmata is obviously classic, especially the stuff about visual art
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
'The Laugh of the Medusa' kicks so much ass, inc some quality penis jokes iirc.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
I went to see her give a talk about 3 or 4 years ago. I didn't know much about her and I still don't know really, but iirc it was based around a partially autobiographical anecdote about her early life in Algeria. She's a very comfortable speaker, it was more like listening to a storyteller at times. I wouldn't mind reading 'The Laugh of the Medusa', seems interesting, but not sure about her basic ideas tbh.
― historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
- Twelve Steps on the Ladder of Writing <------ probably one of the most important books about writing ever written, imo. so infuential.
- Dream I Tell You <------sort of a really weird dream journal, also endlessly fascinating in regards to how she treats her own psyche
- Manna <----- a book conflating/comparing the lives of Anna Akhmatova and Winnie Mandela. a lovely feminist romp through oppressive regimes.
totally classic, everything she writes is pretty rad.
― sold my soul to satin (the table is the table), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
i'm totally put off by her idea of a "feminine" kind of writing or w/e which does make it seem like she totally missed the point of simone de beauvoir but honestly there is no other contemporary critic/philosopher that i would rather read, she is a kickass *writer*
― plax (ico), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
i will research this person , and also i apolijize for being flippan in this thread which tried t obring dignity to msgobrd!
― dell (del), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
t table: have you read "Black Sail White Sail", her play about Akhmatova? I read that one last night and really enjoyed it
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)
plax - eh but i think that kind of notion is developed from a response to de beauvoir on the basis that there are material conditions (some of em pretty obvious) for why we can't really think of men and women as being potentially on absolutely the same plane, as de b would suggest is possible, no?
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
simone de beauvoir has kindof said that her notion of feminist writing is p bullshitty
― plax (ico), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
feminine writing
eh i'm a fan of sexual difference, despite the booby traps of essentialism and crude oppositions it leaves everywhere.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Hehe, you said 'booby'.
I think the idea of a feminine writing is mostly rubbish, but it depends on how you approach the subject - from a socio-historical point of view it seems reasonable to theorise upon the spaces that female writing has co-opted as its own, as long as one repudiates any essentialist reading.
― emil.y, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway, I need to read more Cixous.
Also, balls, a bunch of non-corresponding verbs and prepositions in my original post, sorry.
― emil.y, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
hehe, you said "balls"
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
bernard, i should read that. what i really should do is raid my friend's bookshelf when i get back to oakland.
― sold my soul to satin (the table is the table), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
― emil.y, Monday, August 22, 2011 9:11 PM (Yesterday)
like i think the basic gist is that its a reaction against debeauvoirs claims about femininity being the other of language and so she's like hey that's a pretty negative outlook, that there is no space that is uncolonised by masculinist hegemony, lets just build our own feminine writing and simone is all um did you even hear what i just said?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:36 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but in that there's a kind of diagnosing of what it means that femininity is the other of language, what this means that language is, and then thinking through how that can be otherwise.
dunno what i'm talking about here rly, but i guess that's 1. ilx and 2. philosophical discussion for ya.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
i mean, i don't know cixous very well so maybe she is avoiding the dirty work involved in that, but i know that e.g. irigaray does a lot in the way of looking at what exactly the linguistic figures of the exclusion of women are and developing alternative linguistic figures as a response to that.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:20 (fourteen years ago)
yeah irigaray is a whole different ballgame
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:50 (fourteen years ago)
w also kiw
dunno the theory stuff but i've got the novel angst by cixous somewhere and it's rubbish
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:29 (fourteen years ago)
i really want to read julia kristeva's detective novels
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:31 (fourteen years ago)
I'm hoping to really and finally dive into both cixous and irigiray this year, specifically to use them in my research.
― qpә (EDB), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:54 (fourteen years ago)
"use them"
― and you will know us by the trail of dead... in my vagina? (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:18 (fourteen years ago)
Really? You've never heard that phrase?
― qpә (EDB), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:55 (fourteen years ago)
I was just lolling at the... oh never mind
― and you will know us by the trail of dead... in my vagina? (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
Always sorta look for a cixous novel when I'm out there...
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
Coincidentally two of her bks have been favourably reviewed in the latest issue of the TLS.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)