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Which one of the three original Mario Bros. games do you love the most?

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

My initial choice would be SMB3 because it's just such a damn fine game. But if I had to take only one of them to a desert island or something, I'd probably choose SMB2 because

a) it's damn wacky,
b) it's really big, and I've never played it all the way through,
and
c) it was originally some middle-eastern game called "Doki Doki Panik!", which most certainly adds to the charm of the game as a whole.

Additionally, I've just created myself a wonderful new wallpaper (which prompted me to post this thread), which you can view here.

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

My answer = exactly the same as you. Cept a bit more on Mario 2 = it is really sinister, like a ghost town, where everything you know and love has left and been replaced by these weird looking veggies and baddies, and its all done in weird pseudo-fifties-cowboy-cabaret-pianorolls-pastel-colour-screenshiftin'-madness. It is really bizarre. And I never played it through fully.

david h (david h), Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Subtitled: Super Mario Sunshine - can you wait?

david h (david h), Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

i didn't realize until now how solid the mario series has been. There's never been a bad mario game, has there? I pick mario 3 though, mostly because i happened to be at just the right age (like 12-13, I think?) to appreciate it when it came out.

Dan I., Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

super mario bros. 2 is clearly ahead of the game...of course it has little to do gameplay-wise with the rest of the series (i.e. no block breaking, creature stomping, or koopa shells), but david is right that it's got this vaguely creepy vibe to it, as well as being incredibly dense (there always seems to be a lot of movement going on just off screen or around you.) it was the whole reason i bought a gameboy advance.

i played super mario sunshine this week and it's ace.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan - SMB3 and SMB64 are serious contenders for Game of All Time. Them, LoZ:Ocarina of Time, Street Fighter 2 Turbo (SNES) and... oh, God, don't david. Yes, SMB2 - intro'd this element of character-picking strategy ("do I want to jump higher? or dig veggies quicker? or FLOAT?!") that it chewed up and dropped by the road, never to appear again, as well.

david h (david h), Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:54 (twenty-three years ago)

my favorite video game ever was super mario world - i think that's right. the one where there was the circle of stars little hidden area up in the clouds

ron (ron), Saturday, 31 August 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, if you're talking about the best Mario game of all time, please, please, please consider Yoshi's Island. It is one of the most addictive, fun, and just plain brilliant games ever, IMO.

And I agree about the bizarre atmosphere. Sliding around on ice, throwing eggs at bosses, pulling up turnips - all very strange and disturbing stuff.

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 31 August 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

didn't 2 have a frequent problem with slowing down due to too many characters onscreen at once? so yeah it WAS dense.

Josh (Josh), Saturday, 31 August 2002 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

i love/hate it when i pick up a game i haven't played for 10 years and instantly remember all the warp zones.

funny that this thread should come up now; i have been spending this week of my summer holiday trying to videotape me clocking mario 1 in under 2 mins. what an artefact i will have!

sigh. bubble bobble anyone?

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 31 August 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Dood im like way too young to remember Mario Bros on NES. My only memory of NES(Nintendinho) is the vaguely shape of some game about olympic sports

Zac, The Black Power Ranger (vicc13), Saturday, 31 August 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

The original. The only game I could finish in about 10 minutes using the shortcuts or for freaking hours at the end.

WHADDA you mean you mean shes in another castle! ARGH!

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 31 August 2002 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)

smb2 = originally "Dream Factory" i thought. hence the it was all a dream sequence at the end

boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 31 August 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm with everyone on #2: I could spend hours taking Peach through the ice levels, where that long floaty jump of hers would just skim smoothly across the platforms.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 31 August 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

nab, I think that thought belongs in the 'profound things' thread. ;)

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 31 August 2002 19:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Mario Kart is best ppl.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 August 2002 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I only have the first Mario Bros. game, it's alright. I love Bubble Bobble so much, but I can't get past level 37 oh those stupid bouncey bubbles. Now it's time to make a journey to the cave of monsters.

Elisabeth, Sunday, 1 September 2002 00:49 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread has just prompted me to google a midi file of the Bubble Bobble theme and rock out to it at 4am in my pyjamas. I either love you or hate you.

Graham (graham), Sunday, 1 September 2002 01:11 (twenty-three years ago)

wonderboy 3 > *

it's true, and you fucking know it.

webber (webber), Sunday, 1 September 2002 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I now have the bubble bobble music in my head. I found cheats for the game but I will feel like a quitter if I use them to pass the dreaded level 37. Hey webber some guy told me how to get past level 1 on bart vs the space mutants, something about saving spray paint, I just got a bit confused.

Elisabeth, Sunday, 1 September 2002 08:07 (twenty-three years ago)

i still think bill the demon is cute, and i got all the way through it (in saved stages)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 1 September 2002 08:29 (twenty-three years ago)

between 2's delirious weirdness (now i can't remember if i ever made it all the way thru dammit), 3's epic worldscapes (made somewhat mystical thru my version being a chinese 'bootleg' that allowed you to generate items and skip levels at will) and 1's childhood-defining addictiveness (who remembers that crazy level with the maze that got stuck in an endless loop if you didn't proceed thru it in the correct sequence?), making me choose just wouldn't be right.

mitch lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 1 September 2002 09:20 (twenty-three years ago)

(made somewhat mystical thru my version being a chinese 'bootleg' that allowed you to generate items and skip levels at will)

jay-z was right man...

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 1 September 2002 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Tangential question: Which do you prefer, of the Zelda 64 games -- Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask? My vote's for Majora. Impending doom never looked so good.

Prude, Sunday, 1 September 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

The only one of the original three I didn't own was Super Mario Bros. 3, but I remember it the most fondly, borrowing it from my friend all the time. No other game at the time seemed as big and beautiful.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Sunday, 1 September 2002 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Careful Graham, I may have that cartridge hidden around.

Super Bonus question: What level was the secret hidden entrance that avoided the bad ending on?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 1 September 2002 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not only was SMB3 an amazing game in itself, when one actually tries to develop games for the NES you realise just the kind of adversity the developers at Nintendo came up against, and you realise that Super Mario Bros. 3 is possibly the greatest technical and artistic achievement of the last century.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 1 September 2002 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Appropriate IRC quote:

Intra - do you have any other stuff that is on the same basic level as moby?
No one is on Moby's level
He's stuck on level 3, world 7 of the original Super mario Bros.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 1 September 2002 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry moby, the princess in another castle.

webber (webber), Monday, 2 September 2002 02:54 (twenty-three years ago)

"do I want to jump higher? or dig veggies quicker? or FLOAT?!"

or do i want to twiddle my feet daintily as i sail through the air?? (ie pick luigi. why would you!!?! there was only ever one answer to that question and it was princess)


minna (minna), Monday, 2 September 2002 04:15 (twenty-three years ago)

i want nes so bad and then mario one. it haunts me

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 2 September 2002 04:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I enjoy Super Mario because he is very happy to win his tooch.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 September 2002 06:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah yes I remember the days of going next door every day after school to escape to Giant Land or Dark World. The great maps and faraway lands, the wardrobe changes, and all the whistles and hammers and other magical objects make THREE win for me. Now I have that eerie whistle tune for the cloudy warp zone stuck in my head. And that's a good thing.

Keith McD (Keith McD), Monday, 2 September 2002 07:49 (twenty-three years ago)

anthony you know you can v easily download nes games (ILLEGALLY!) from the interweb and run them on pc nes emulators? (ILLEGALLY!)(unless you own the original cartridges too.)

and be warned: sitting on a chair, staring at a monitor (aged 20+) isn't the same as sitting on the floor, staring at the tv screen (aged 12-). cookies can only help, tho.

mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 2 September 2002 08:35 (twenty-three years ago)

With regard to Mitch's above post, Anthony should get into contact with me. :)

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 2 September 2002 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)

you gots cookies andrew?

mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 2 September 2002 11:11 (twenty-three years ago)

No, I wish I did though.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 2 September 2002 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

minna you needed luigi to get to the warp in level 5-2 (or 5-3?) to get to level 7-1.

otherwise, yes, total fairy.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 September 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)

in grade 7 i had a nintendo related seizure at a friends birthday party which was triggered by the light patterns in super mario 3. ive been afraid to go back ever since

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 2 September 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

jess you are WRONG. this thread made me download the game and i found a way to get to the warp thing using mario by super-jumping from a carefully positioned bomb-monster! HA! and they said i'd never amount to anything

mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 2 September 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

The voices in the Gameboy advance version of Mario 2 sound like how i imagine the voices in people's heads sound.

Honda, Tuesday, 3 September 2002 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)

more mario 'wtf'-ness: i'm playing "super mario all*stars" and in mario 3 when i return the magic wand to the king the text box reads: "can i wear your clothes? no dice!? what a drag!"

wtf?

mitch lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
now this is what old ilx was really all about.

old ilx rocks, Friday, 2 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

ha i just read the whole thread without realizing it was 3 years old. not that it makes much difference

(ps. bubble bobble rocks)

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

super mario 2 : shigeru miyamoto :: robert altman : popeye

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

I honestly think if I had to pick one of the 8 bit Marios it would have to be SMB2. I know that's generally considered the red-headed inbred bastard leper of the canon, but I really liked the milieu and I loved the whole pick-stuff-up-and-throw-it mechanism. I hope they rerelease it online for the Revolution along with the rest of them.

TOMBOT, Friday, 2 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

And as for picking characters in Mario 2 I WANTED to pick Toad constantly but ended up picking Luigi for most of the game because I could use his wiggly-toe jumping to offset my horrible jump timing. Mario himself I've always kinda hated.

TOMBOT, Friday, 2 September 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

out of the marios i've played on all systems i'd rank them:

mario64 (n64)
smb 2 (nes)
smb world (snes)
smb (nes)
smb 3 (nes)
smb lost levels (snes)
super mario land (gamboy)
donkey kong (gameboy)
sml 2 (gameboy)
super mario sunshine (gamecube)

i know there's hundreds more i need to play. i will be buying a ds when my loan cheque comes through, how is mario & luigi? i really need to play super mario rpg as well, i'm considering getting an ntsc to pal converter just to play it on my snes. fuck playing it with a keyboard. i love mario. the super mario bros cartoon is being issued on dvd, along with the zelda cartoon. can't wait, though i'll feel bad watching them on my ps2. anyone remember the educational game mario is missing?

rio natsume, Friday, 2 September 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

popeye is my favourite altman film too!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

wiki page for SMB2's Famicom counterpart, just to clear stuff up.

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 October 2010 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

smb2 is really one of the great oddities of video game history

cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

like for a franchise with such consistent characters, world, physics, imagery etc it's so bizarre that that happened

cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

this post captures a very strong and very specific feeling from my childhood:

I'm with everyone on #2: I could spend hours taking Peach through the ice levels, where that long floaty jump of hers would just skim smoothly across the platforms.
― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:18 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark

ryan, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

I *loved* Mario 2 when it came out but my dad refused to buy it for us kids. "Why should I pay for 'Mario Does Gardening'?"

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

^same^

or that frenetic chase upward through the sand lair when you have the key and the evil keyguard-heads are chasing you. even just the opening bit is pretty iconic: you start the game, choose a character, open a door and whoooooooooooa fall from the air a few screens before touching land.

Z S, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

I think Super Mario 3 was my fav due to how much more expansive it was than SMB 1, but was a return to the 'familiar' Mario environment after the weird Super Mario 2 (the backstory on how that game came to me was weird!)

The Tanooki suit alone would break any tiebreakers with SMB 1.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

oops ^same^ to nabisco/ryan, xpost.

Z S, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

Man I think I am going to have to hook my SNES back up and put in Super Mario All-Stars sometime today, this thread is giving me memories.

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

*came to be

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

I remember back when we were kids it was a big deal re: bragging rights if you got the Mario titles first. SMB2 and SMB3 were always sold out and my parents bought SMB3 for my younger bro for his birthday, so we technically owned a copy first, but he got it later than our friends because we had to wait until his birthday.

So my circle of young 9-10 year old friends all argued all summer about who got SMB3 first which became moot when my brother and my best friend beat SMB3 on the same day around the same time of morning...and then the argument shifted to a vicious one on who truly beat the game first.

Ah, childhood.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

I remember everyone sharing the first warp whistle like it was a big secret. I saw "The Wizard," too, come on! It wasn't *that* secret.

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

also my friend wanted my brother's achievement to receive an asterix because this cross-eyed melon-headed doofus kid was at the house and he wanted to play a little, so he beat level 8-1, whereas my brother finished it and beat the rest.

Debate ended in a stalemate because in previous plays, my bro had beaten 8-1 himself, and eventually we got tired of arguing about that game and just argued about another one.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

lol at The Whistle part in The Wizard. "WARP ZONE ACCESSED!!!"

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

I've probably complained about that Wizard/whistle scene here before, but that was SUCH BULLSHIT! In the movie, for the final stage of the contest, everyone had to play SMB3, because it hadn't been released at the time and so everyone would be on a level playing field. But then, while they're playing it, Kevin Arnold's Winnie (don't remember their film names) just blurts out the secret about the whistle to him! How in the world would she know, pre-release, that you have to fly up and over the hidden ledge in the first mini-castle? And even if she did know, how would it be fair for her to tell him that mid-competition??

Z S, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

when the losing finalist went home to eat dinner with his parents that night, boy did HE have a story to tell

Z S, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

she was incepted into marilyn mansons head

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

SMB2 has the best tunes imho

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

smb2 is the most relaxing mario bros imo

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

The Wizard rules though for its cheesiness.

"You keep your 'power gloves' off of her, got it?"

or at the competition, the girl screaming "THEY NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT NO NEW GAME!"

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

The Wizard is fucking terrible. The few corny lol moments do not make up for it.

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

I always hated those video game competition type things because they always placed too high an emphasis on points over progress, I tell ya!

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure I'd hate it as a movie nowadays, but I refuse to remember it any way but fondly because of how absurd a premise it was.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

so absurd it made me giggle.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

alright, let's share our SMB1 high scores! Mine is 1340808972354 points, what's yours?!

Z S, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

No screenshot, no credibility

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

anybody here ever get their scores posted in Nintendo Power?

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)


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