― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 2 September 2002 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 2 September 2002 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Drugs cost money, and the more you use, the more money you need. Since the high of crack, from what I have heard, seems to last less than most, the amount of crack necessary to keep one going is larger than other drugs, and I have heard the crack is the most addictive out of any. This means that crack addicts need more money than other users, unless they are getting a good deal (I don't know the price of crack). A user may become a nasty motherfucker when they need the money, which they will eventually if crack is addicting as the ME-dia says.
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 2 September 2002 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
what in the world are you talking about??
i don't know much about crack, but i hold cocaine in fairly low regard. it divides people, plus my friend killed himself while on it.
― ron (ron), Monday, 2 September 2002 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Ron - I'm not talking about addiction and the downside of that. I mean the actual physiological harm caused by (non-OD doses of) an opiate. Which is non-existent, as far as I know. Why, what did you think heroin did to you??
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― MM, Tuesday, 3 September 2002 08:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― MM, Tuesday, 3 September 2002 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)
I also had a friend who was a former cocaine addict, who tried crack and enjoyed it, but did not become addicted. (She did later get hooked on tobacco again after smoking pot or hashish in Berlin, where it is apparently always mixed with tobacco.)
I think cocaine in whatever form is potentially very nasty stuff, and my friend's description of her withdraw from cocaine made it sound horrible.
― DeRayMi, Tuesday, 3 September 2002 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lynskey, Tuesday, 3 September 2002 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jackie, Tuesday, 3 September 2002 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/60minliv.htm
prescribing heroin to long term users, to be used in a clinic rather than taken away, has been introduced to the Netherlands and has proved a success in reducing crime and the health damage to users. I used to work in a drugs crisis centre and with those convicted of drug related crime in prisons. Crack Cocaine did seem especially voracious in creating dependency, particularly those who combined it with heroin.
― stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)
It meant that assuming you know what you're taking (which obviously with street heroin you don't), you'd have to take many, many times over your normal fix to overdose. 'Many, many' times being more than the multiple required to damage yourself with overdosing on paracetemol, where even a few tablets over the 2 tablets recommended limit can cause liver damage in some people.
Reason for deaths by heroin overdose now: the purity varies hugely.
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 4 September 2002 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― leane, Friday, 6 September 2002 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)
A very old friend did 16 months for 3rd strike possession, released on friday... his father came by his house early tuesday morning to take him to a dentist apartment only to find him lying on the floor in his new apartment, od'd on freebase/crack cocaine, legs blue due to 12 hours of bloodloss, brain dead. The doctors spent 6 hours reviving him, amputating his legs in the process and then pulled the plug.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)
i was reading ian penman's book the other day,and in it he claims that every single person he knows has tried crack,and it seems to be something that was done for a laugh every so often...i was fairly surprised by this,i presume it was in media circles in the eighties,i didn't think it was ever really a casual drug...
i think it sounds like an awful drug,and the state of the crackheads in amsterdam was worse even than dublin junkies...
― robin (robin), Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
if someone isn't upset by this thread the world shall collapse I tells ya! -- Julio Desouza (juli...), September 2nd, 2002.
― mei (mei), Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
No, crack is considered pretty much a low point in the UK too. I know a lot of people who have taken it during prolonged bouts of drug tourism, and they were pretty much excommunicated by everyone that knew them. So, I'd say there's a pretty big stigma, yes.
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― mei (mei), Friday, 10 October 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 10 October 2003 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Darcus How? (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Darcus How? (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― East Bay Crackhaus (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)
I have learned that, compared to the majority of other people I've known who've tried hard drugs, my will power is extraordinary. I was able to keep my habit in control, and once I sensed things getting out of hand, I stopped cold turkey. Too few people are able to maintain any sort of control over their use, though.
― Aaron A., Saturday, 17 January 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 17 January 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)
What are they, pets?
― East Bay Crackhaus (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)
I mean I have "met"
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 17 January 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 17 January 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)
ah
― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 17 January 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Craxy, Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Allyzay, Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 January 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 17 January 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 17 January 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 17 January 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)
i guess 8 inches just pales in comparison
― timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 21 October 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago)
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago)
trying to think of some glib flipness to add to the fun, but sadly i know too many recovering and active users through work.
i've met some great fucking people. really articulate and humane, funny and sweet. kind of folks i would be proud to take round to my folks house and introduce to my mum as friends - OFF DRUGS.
on crack and/or heroin they become a danger to themselves and a danger to society.
quoth one: 'when i drink i get using thoughts. when i use, breaking into someone's house to get money becomes a completely reasonable idea.'
everyone's bracing themselves for the first full-on meth wave here in the uk - yikes, could our inner cities get any more decimated? could our jails get any fuller?
― beeble (beeble), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago)
― Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago)
meth in the US is a surburban/rural problem. Thus the clampdown of Wal-Mart on selling its basic ingredients.
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
― Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago)
Yup. I'm genuinely bitter about this. My head, man, the itching is in my head, it's in my ears man and I need to get well...
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 21 October 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago)