would you squat for health?

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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2010/08/dont_just_sit_there.single.html

An Israeli doctor named Dov Sikirov tested this idea for a 2003 study published in Digestive Diseases and Sciences. He had several dozen patients defecate in each of three positions: sitting on a 16-inch-high toilet, sitting on a 12-inch-high toilet, and squatting over a plastic container. He asked his subjects to record how long each bowel movement took and rate the effort required on a four-point scale ranging from effortless to difficult. Sikirov found that, when squatting, subjects averaged a mere 51 seconds to move their bowels, versus 130 seconds when sitting on a high toilet. And as they moved from a sit to a squat, subjects were more likely to rate the experience as easier.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
I would consider squatting, but I like to sit 8
I sit and would never consider squatting 7
I squat, and never sit 1


dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KWRje.gif

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:14 (fourteen years ago)

They're trying to get low level toilets in through the back door.

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:15 (fourteen years ago)

nice

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:19 (fourteen years ago)

If the second guy is happy to shit in his pants, then hats off to him but I'll stick to toilets of varying height I think

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:19 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.tyrepress.com/thumbnail.php?file=kwik_fit_422345971.jpg&size=article_medium
You can't get better than a quick sit shitter

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

He asked his subjects to record how long each bowel movement took and rate the effort required on a four-point scale ranging from effortless to difficult. Sikirov found that, when squatting, subjects averaged a mere 51 seconds to move their bowels, versus 130 seconds when sitting on a high toilet.

This guy doesn't seem to understand that sitting on the toilet is quality time! Why should it last shorter?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:40 (fourteen years ago)

Exactly. How am I supposed to get through this book if I can only read it in 51 second bursts?

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.thechestnut.com/potty/title1.jpg

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

ive never understood folk who take minutes taking a shit. unless you're having some sort of bowel problems. im done within 30 seconds (tmi).

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)

/bragging

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:27 (fourteen years ago)

51 seconds tho

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

thought this thread was going to be about lifting weights

long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/deadfred821/Forum%20Stuff/OmenShitThread-1.jpg

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

Seriously, though, there are postures from which you can push, and postures from which it's so unnecessarily difficult that you may as well be hanging by your knees from a chin-up bar. (This is also relevant to childbirth and there's a lot of info about squatting to push during labor.)

I'm short. On handicapped-accessible toilets, my feet don't or barely touch the floor. This is not helpful.

I have a paranoid daughter and a son who is addicted to internet (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

i thought this would be about occupying closing hospital wards or something tbh

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KWRje.gif

Then don't carry a footstool with you to the toilet!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Maya+Rudolph+Maya+Rudolph+Kristen+Wiig+Film+pYY9MRTjBrNl.jpg

Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

That was a funny scene! Why are there so few chick flicks with poop jokes?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

what all is going on when one 'pushes'? the movement of items through various intestines/bowels/etc must be pretty complex, but 'pushing' seems like a fairly one-note trick from the outside.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Because girls don't poop Tuomas, duh!

That scene was hysterical.

ENBB, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

great squat

joepacabra (am0n), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

(This is also relevant to childbirth and there's a lot of info about squatting to push during labor.

Was just going to bring that up.

ENBB, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

See, so, Carey and I talked about this once and she said she thinks maybe the mechanism of pushing is different for guys?!?? We were trying to figure out why there's this stereotypical male thing about spending like 15 mins on the john with a newspaper/ipad, and that was all we could come up with.

I have a paranoid daughter and a son who is addicted to internet (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think the mechanism is different. I can totally spend 15 mins in there with a mag, ipad, back of the shampoo bottle what have you. I often do. idk.

ENBB, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

it's a little bit of 'me' time now pfo i'm busy

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

might just sleep on the loo tonight, report back

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

Good practice for a night on the piss.

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

what all is going on when one 'pushes'? the movement of items through various intestines/bowels/etc must be pretty complex, but 'pushing' seems like a fairly one-note trick from the outside.

― mookieproof, Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:30 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think the article mentions that when you sit, the poop goes through a bend before coming out for air

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

I've done both and squatting is a lil' easier. otoh it puts you uncomfortably close to the poop.

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

The muscles that do the job are just arranged so that they most effectively direct things downward. When you make them change direction in the middle of the column or push another direction, they work less well.

I have a paranoid daughter and a son who is addicted to internet (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

sitting very straight-backed ftw

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

Because I spend a lot of time deep in the wilderness, I am quite familiar with squatting. It's ok, but not exactly revolutionary. Unless you're chronically constipated I can't see where it would do much for your health at all. The difference is marginal.

otoh, the squatting position is very hard on your knees compared to sitting. For example, few catchers in baseball escape at the end of their careers with fully functional knees.

Aimless, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

it takes you 9 innings to poop?

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

how am i supposed to brew some assuccino w/out a porcelain bowl to catch it

joepacabra (am0n), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

Not all who squat poop.

Aimless, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

I think the article mentions that when you sit, the poop goes through a bend before coming out for air

― dayo

I'm sorry, but I immediately pictured some sort of poop whale surfacing to breathe.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

See, so, Carey and I talked about this once and she said she thinks maybe the mechanism of pushing is different for guys?!?? We were trying to figure out why there's this stereotypical male thing about spending like 15 mins on the john with a newspaper/ipad, and that was all we could come up with.

All I am going to say on this subject is that bathroom time is not gendered at all

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Okay! Apparently Carey and I do not share that predilection although I'm perfectly capable of taking 10 minutes to put on eyeliner. I just could never figure out why this thing was supposed to take so long.

I have a paranoid daughter and a son who is addicted to internet (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

Believe me, neither do I.

Or, at least I didn't until I started playing games on my phone.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

Sitting for shitting works fine for me. I don't dawdle or take anything to read. I can tell based on what I've eaten, or the amt of gurgling and cramping, whether to keep it brief or wait for the second attack wave.

"Blue" Meme Tyranny (WmC), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

xp Angry Turds?

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

Layers of meaning in this...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Y9D0X70EL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34P18at0Q7s

buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0f/Just_go_lionel.jpg/220px-Just_go_lionel.jpg

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

Always be sitting. At this point in my life, there is nothing "natural" about squatting like the guy in the diagram. I'd just fall over in my own poo.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

And even if squatting is more natural, so what? I think any improvement to my quality of life provided by squatting is equaled by the improvement to my quality of life by posting on the Internet from a work bathroom stall.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

I had no idea squat toilets were so widespread (har har) across the world.

gyac, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

Internet from a work bathroom stall

AMEN.

My friend and I once had a lengthy discussion about how reading on the john at work (or internetting) is the best because it's basically your company paying you to shit.

Yes, I am an awful employee. Not really though because I'm staying back from our post holiday party (wtf is that even?) to finish up some important things (and post this, ovb) when I could be having free cocktails.

ENBB, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry that was pretty gross. Even for me.

ENBB, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

It seems like you'd have to take your pants all the way off to squat, which means shoes off too and then bare (or socked) feet on the toilet floor right next to the hole. Ewww.

When I was in Italy there were still a lot off "squatters" in the bathrooms, though it looked like they were being phased out.

nickn, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:58 (fourteen years ago)

Though I guess the guy in the picture didn't feel the need to take his pants off.

nickn, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:59 (fourteen years ago)

As someone who has done my fair share of outdoor peeing, you can pull your pants down to your knees and then squat. Just pull your pants forward to get them out of the way while you go, and make sure you move forward a bit before you stand up or risk dragging your waistband through your own filth.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:02 (fourteen years ago)

My friend and I once had a lengthy discussion about how reading on the john at work (or internetting) is the best because it's basically your company paying you to shit.

This was basically an episode of the new season of Beavis & Butthead!

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

It seems like you'd have to take your pants all the way off to squat, which means shoes off too and then bare (or socked) feet on the toilet floor right next to the hole. Ewww.

When I was in Italy there were still a lot off "squatters" in the bathrooms, though it looked like they were being phased out.

― nickn, Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:58 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

you don't have to - but the margin of error is certainly much less, to be sure

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

i just have all waste sucked out through a plastic tube each month, much cleaner

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

Not for the person at the other end of the tube.

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Thursday, 26 January 2012 10:19 (fourteen years ago)

When I was in Italy there were still a lot off "squatters" in the bathrooms, though it looked like they were being phased out.

I didn't see any in Italy, but I did see quite a few in Serbia, Croatia, etc. It was kinda funny to go use the bathroom in a relatively nice place (restaurant, hotel, wherever), be pleased with how clean/tidy it all is, but then be confronted by a squatter-style.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 26 January 2012 11:19 (fourteen years ago)

It seems you could simulate the second "squatting" posture on a commode by placing your feet on a chair or stepstool that's the same height as the toilet seat.

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Just stand on the rim.

Aimless, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

<insert Skyrim joke>

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

Old crust-punk neighbors of mine used to have friends crashing at their place all the time, one of whom would squat on the toilet seat as part of some health regimen that even his fellow crust-punks thought hilarious. He finally cracked and broke the seat at some point.

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

xxp: actually attempted that this morning in the service of this thread, but it was a no go.

beachville, Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw squatting is not really bad for your knees at all

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

As someone who has done my fair share of outdoor peeing, you can pull your pants down to your knees and then squat. Just pull your pants forward to get them out of the way while you go, and make sure you move forward a bit before you stand up or risk dragging your waistband through your own filth.

― gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man i had a girl friend in college who was a fucking ninja with this. we'd be hiking or w/e, stop for a break, and before i'd even uh aimed for the tree, she was done. like everything in this fluid motion, just ~boop~ into a squat for a few seconds and up.

i was v impressed

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i'd just casually go off to the side while walking, to salve my ego

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

do catchers mostly squat on the balls of their feet or do their heels touch the ground?

proper squatting for a #2 involves the heels being on the ground too

dayo, Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

no clue

tho for real squats really are great for health! prob the easy-to-do-at-home exercise i would recommend for just about anyone (that doesn't have an existing knee injury or something). strengthens joints, "core," posture, gets yr HR up.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

makes poopin easier

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

When people aren't looking, I sorta squat-walk around my house.

beachville, Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

squatting rules

try again, fascist (Matt P), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 30 January 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Swansea University puts up toilet instruction posters

White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)


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