Disney animated features 1991-2000 poll

Lion King fuiud.

Lion King the best film in the classic mold on the list, New Groove is my favorite of all of these as a grown-up. The story of that movie is apparently pretty hilarious, the script used to have a full complement of songs and everything.

first three are spot perfect but lion king
it really is the best animated movie ever. so fucking shocking, both when i was a kid and didnt understand morality and death and now when i think im getting a handle on it and then see mustafa intentionally trampled to death.

Mulan definitely outclasses Hercules and Tarzan and Pocahontas, not quite as classic as Beauty/Aladdin/Lion King.

duuuuude I just wondered why don't any of the herbivorous megafauna talk

because they are the plebeians of the Savannah and TLK was about royalty.

Aladdin.

fuck it, i'm voting TENG

watched Pocahantas recently actually. weird movie. thankfully not marred by shitty Phil Collins/Billy Joel/whoever the fuck songwriting like some of these other ones

'aladdin' was awesome at the time but i suspect its arsenio hall jokes and abject racism haven't held up well.

Dinosaur tho. What was that about?

Fantasia 2000 (2000)
The Emperor's New Groove (2000)

These are the only two acceptable options.

Disney's creative flailings at the turn of the century are pretty interesting. They really were throwing everything at the wall

Fantasia 2000

?! this movie is an abomination

a fucking NOAH'S ARK SEQUENCE

Disney + Bible = wrong

Fantasia 2000 and Emperor's New Groove are as different as can be

kind of ridiculous that the disney of this era, prob their least ambitious/interesting era ever, would try to replicate/upgrade the single most ambitious and groundbreaking disney movie ever.

like one is a funny, stylistically daring break with tradition and the other is a bloated monument to the memory of Walt

Rhapsody in Blue is the only segment of Fantasia 2K I have distinct memories of

ahhh. can't choose between Lion King and Aladdin. Aladdin was always my favourite as a child, its so fun, and that counts for a lot. But then the Lion King is probably the better movie, but its a lot heavier than Aladdin..

Rhapsody in Blue is the only segment of Fantasia 2K I have distinct memories of

the only decent sequence in the movie, so consider yourself lucky

yeah sort of what I thought

feel like I should've put longer than a week on this poll oh well. pretty sure it's going to get more voters than my Abort/Retry/Fail? poll.

Pocahontas isn't a great movie but it has amazing Alan Menken songs so I watch youtubes of it all the time.

Voted for another movie with Alan Menken soundtrack.

lion king definitely

would try to replicate/upgrade the single most ambitious and groundbreaking disney movie ever.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, January 27, 2012 4:10 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

you cant possibly be referring to fantasia can you? because sleeping beauty fits the bill way more

the original fantasia is highfalutin junk, they did it no particular disservice with 2k

Sleeping Beauty is really beautiful but i just find it boring. Pinocchio is obviously Disney's greatest achievement.

like one is a funny, stylistically daring break with tradition and the other is a bloated monument to the memory of Walt
― Number None, Friday, January 27, 2012 3:11 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, kind of the point of my pairing. Neither was of a piece with Disney's horrible, awful '90s shit.

(That said, yeah, the "Pomp & Circumstance" segment is a nightmare.)

beauty and the beast

anything that is connected to angela lansbury and celine dion ftw

lion king was my fav when i was a kid cuz it was about a ~boy and his dad~ so it was cooler than all the eww princess movies. the funny thing is that they put their B-team on lion king and had the higher hopes for pocahontas, which was meant to have a big oscar push. aladdin might deserve the greatest share of blame for the celeb v/o trend, but i loved it too

Well I remember the...disturbed looks on parents' faces when the count or whomever in The Huchback...sung a song to a raging fire to celebrate his lust for a girl.

That's nothing
http://images.geeknative.com.s3.amazonaws.com/geeknative.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/lion-king-sex.jpg

i was gonna mention that! sooo inappropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyS3weMlxLA

Out of all have only seen maybe 20 mins of B&tB thx to 5-yo niece's serial viewing. (she also likes to sing the crows' song from Dumbo) No desire to see any others.

which one "boasts" the Michael Bolton theme song

i went with my sisters to see the recent theater re-releases of lion king and beauty and the beast, and i gotta say they didn't quite hold up to childhood memory. we ended up fixating less on the charm & music & visuals and more on the various cringe-worthy social assumptions underlying the stories. also i had forgotten how lickety-split quick the love stories are set up, like you get one song/montage and that's it, true love forever.

so basically emperor's new groove wins for not having a love interest and for making the story about how rich ppl are jerks.

you cant possibly be referring to fantasia can you? because sleeping beauty fits the bill way more

the original 'fantasia' isn't perfect but it's probably among the 3-4 most mold-breaking animated features ever. 'sb' looks nice but is pretty conventional otherwise. they're definitely both way ahead of anything post-1967, in any way.

But most Disney movies assume that rich people are jerks -- especially inherited wealth (e.g. Cinderella, Snow White, B&TB).

you might say that in Disney movies we first see the apotheosis of the Orange County arriviste who marries, turns Republican and joins the local chapter of Reagan for Prez.

hahaha Alfred OTM.

Reagan Democrats 4 Dumbo!

I wouldn't say Sleeping Beauty is conventional. There are no real protagonists. Not necessarily unconventional in a good way, but certainly interesting. A cold movie, not one you love.

It's an art movie

the original 'fantasia' isn't perfect but it's probably among the 3-4 most mold-breaking animated features ever.

sorry, i dont buy it one bit! that's really an uncalled for level of hyperbole imo

they're definitely both way ahead of anything post-1967, in any way.

really REALLY dont buy this either! esp 'in any way'... thats just absurd!

I never thought about how far more ambiguous everything in SB is compared to say, Snow White... not even the evil witch's/godmother's actions are specifically "evil" but more tied up with fate.

This thread makes me want to do some SRS and CRTCL viewings of Disney's backcatalog, most of which I haven't seen since before I was in formal operations.

Sleeping Beauty is pretty interesting. certainly on a formal level its close to the top in terms of execution and innovation.

Pinocchio combines formal elegance and entertainment tho

like Monstro alone is one the most impressive feats of animation ever

I have held off on showing Pinnochio to my daughter out of concern that it might freak her out/scare her. Monstro is pretty scary.

otoh she is cool with watching wolverines dismember a moose so I dunno

From my one viewing of Pinocchio, when I was prob. 7, IMO it combines terrifying nightmare imagery with crippling guilt inducement.

So, good work Shakes!

not a good movie but the bear in Fox and the Hound is absolutely terrifying.

Also, this dude
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YGVLM2i9n6o/SukHJSgyNKI/AAAAAAAAEOA/kHf8lNA7LjA/s400/chernabog03.jpg

we skipped that part of fantasia

I guess some critics (Kael?) found Fantasia 1940 to be the kitschification of Serious Music.

shakey otm. theres different levels on which 'conventional' works here, and animation-wise & cinematically SB does a lot of interesting stuff (i dont think its a great movie mind you but as an achievement its remarkable), fantasia's primary innovation was its unsettling combination of grade-A kitsch with hoity toity stuff.

XXXP Fox and the Hound is a totally good movie! I disagree! Its extremely sad and upsetting but also really beautiful and is a great story about the bonds of friendship and how much pain we bring on ourselves through our decisions to become close to others through friendship.

If I ever have kids though, my strategy is to wait till my kid (esp. if its a boy) is 13-14 before I make them sit down and watch it. I saw the whole thing for the first time when I was like in my mid-teens and it still devastated me. Like seriously it was the first movie I cried at.

So yeah I'd take my YA and say "oh you think you're jaded and shit? Lets just sit down and watch this fuckin' kiddie movie..." and then cue the waterworks and introspection abt. the importance and meaning of friendship.

I dunno I realize now that I am stanning for a movie that is typically relegated to B-list Disney but I guess it just had a v. big impact on me.

I guess some critics (Kael?) found Fantasia 1940 to be the kitschification of Serious Music.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, January 27, 2012 6:02 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

im not sure how else you could possibly view it, tbh! and that doesn't necessarily entail condemning the movie either...

Oh yeah Night on Bald Mountain had like three frames of demon tits flying past the camera iirc.

sorry, i dont buy it one bit! that's really an uncalled for level of hyperbole imo

what animated features do you consider more innovative? i can't think of many animated films, before or since, that open with a 15-20 minute stretch of abstract surrealism!

some of the segments are terrible (the beethoven one), but others ('rite of spring,' 'dance of the hours') don't seem kitschy at all to me.

tbh i can't think of a single disney film since WD's death that struck me as particularly innovative at all, tho some of them are decent.

they've hit on a formula and don't fuck with it imho

Bubble Boy

little mermaid even if thats gay as fuck

I would like everyone to bear in mind that Hunchback had a priest who put a chilling lustful hellscape into song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyS3weMlxLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPUmv3U2XY&feature=related

^^^ can still sing every gd word to this my sister and used to watch this on vhs every dam day.

best parts: the offhand should shrug on 'sure' and the part where you just start to belt it out

haha looks like everyone beat me to Frollo
sorry for not reading the thread

BONUS TRIVIA: there was a point in the mid-'90s where my Dad learned about "collectors items" as an investment, and in keeping with his tradition of making the worst investments ever, my parents still have a box full of mint-in-mint-bag Burger King puppets of Hunchback of Notre Dame characters

came to vote for little mermaid (still watch this once/year!), but this has got to be one of the first three, huh? as someone who actually was a small child in the 90s these movies were obv v important to me

my kids like the fox and the hound, esp my daughter. that's as late as we go with our dvds disney-wise, thank god, although my wife took them to the recent lion king re-issue while i checked out drive.

voted Lion King, for being the first movie I remember crying at. He watched his dad die! And was made to believe it was his fault! That shit can really fuck up an 8yr old.

Also, Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

"Part of Your World" sung inside a birth canal.

idk what thats supposed to mean but lil mermaid is beautiful ok

two words:
Hakuna Matata

A Poll New World: Disney Animated Films of the 90s

pfft

Voted Hercules in the other poll and am voting Hercules here.

Lion King

Unrelated story, had a 'friend' (re: annoying tagalong) in high school that was addicted to porn, and one of his fav pics to circulate was a topless drawing of Ariel.

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lol who voted for dinosaur

Good results really. Top 3 is class, but a good worthy tight race.