Visible signs of ageing part 2

But what does 'baby faced' actually mean? Some thirty year olds have really smooth skin, but for some reason they still look thirty. And you get people who can be described as 'baby faced' or 'boyish' even when they're middle aged and above. I'm curious what bone structure becoming sharper really involves. Do people's bones change shape throughout their lives? Come to think of it, the answer might be yes, because archaeologists can usually tell how old someone was when they died from skeletons, can't they?

"You're as young as the geezer that carries you"

Smokers, don't forget it's YOU who get those ugly upper-lip lines mentioned above. If your vanity isn't a good enough reason to give up, you're doomed :)

(And I don't know but I keep looking at photos of people in their late teens and thinking, "Don't they look young?!" before thinking, "Oh my God, I'm sooooo ooooooold..." It's that and the way I keep thinking people I chat to online must be older than me and then they almost never are.)

I bought a Transformers Alternator today, and had trouble transforming the thing. It will not go back to car mode :(

It looks pretty cool though.

and cobwebs on the asshole.

People still mistake me for being about 24-26 though. This amuses me. I guess its the roundy babyness to my face or something.

And the fact I act like a dick.

I also suspect I'm getting menopause symptoms. I'm only 33. Dear god.

If I haven't shaven if a couple days, people usually guess my age withing at least a few years. If I'm freshly shaven, I get mistaken for an infant.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005Q66N.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

"Maybe he saw that Winger video."

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170601-the-secret-to-a-long-and-healthy-life-eat-less

That’s why, in the late 1980s, two independent long-term trials – one at NIA and the other at the University of Wisconsin – were set up to study calorie restriction and ageing in Rhesus monkeys. Not only do we share 93% of our DNA with these primates, we age in the same way too.

Slowly, after middle age (around 15 years in Rhesus monkeys) the back starts to hunch, the skin and muscles start to sag, and, where it still grows, hair goes from gingery brown to grey. The similarities go deeper. In these primates, the occurrence of cancer, diabetes, and heart disease increases in frequency and severity with age. “They’re an excellent model to study ageing,” says Rozalyn Anderson, a gerontologist from the University of Wisconsin.

And they’re easy to control. Fed with specially made biscuits, the diets of the 76 monkeys at the University of Wisconsin and the 121 at NIA are tailored to their age, weight, and natural appetite. All monkeys receive the full complement of nutrients and minerals that their bodies crave. It’s just that half of the monkeys, the calorie restricted (or CR) group, eat 30% less.

They are far from malnourished or starving. Take Sherman, a 43-year-old monkey from NIA. Mattison says that since being placed on the CR diet in 1987, aged 16, Sherman hasn’t shown any overt signs of hunger that are well characterised in his species.

Sherman is the oldest Rhesus monkey ever recorded, nearly 20 years older than the average lifespan for his species in captivity. As younger monkeys were developing diseases and dying, he seemed to be immune to ageing. Even into his 30s he would have been considered an old monkey, but he didn’t look or act like one.

The same is true, to varying extents, for the rest of his experimental troop at NIA. “We have a lower incidence of diabetes, and lower incidence of cancer in the CR groups,” says Mattison. In 2009, the University of Wisconsin trial published similarly spectacular results.

Not only did their CR monkeys look remarkably younger – with more hair, less sag, and brown instead of grey – than monkeys that were fed a standard diet, they were healthier on the inside too, free from pathology. Cancers, such as the common intestinal adenocarcinoma, were reduced by over 50%. The risk of heart disease was similarly halved. And while 11 of the ad libitum (“at one’s pleasure,” in Latin) monkeys developed diabetes and five exhibited signs that they were pre-diabetic, the blood glucose regulation seemed healthy in all CR monkeys. For them, diabetes wasn’t a thing.

Overall, only 13% of the monkeys in the CR group had died of age-related causes in 20 years. In the ad libitum group, 37% had died, nearly three times as many. In an update study from the University of Wisconsin in 2014, this percentage remained stable.

“We have demonstrated that ageing can be manipulated in primates,” says Anderson. “It kind of gets glossed over because it’s obvious, but conceptually that’s hugely important; it means that ageing itself is a reasonable target for clinical intervention and medical treatment.”

If ageing can be delayed, in other words, all of the diseases associated with it will follow suit. “Going after each disease one at a time isn’t going to significantly extend lifespan for people because they’ll die of something else,” says Anderson. “If you cured all cancers, you wouldn’t offset death due to cardiovascular disease, or dementia, or diabetes-associated disorders. Whereas if you go after ageing you can offset the lot in one go.”

this sounds interesting too:

But a predisposition to obesity can be used as a guide to life choices rather than an inevitability. “I personally have a genetic history of obesity running through my family, and I practice a flexible form of caloric restriction,” says Susan Roberts a dietary scientist at Tufts University in Boston. “I keep my BMI at 22, and [have calculated] that that requires eating 80% of what I would eat if my BMI was at 30 like every other member of my family.” Roberts stresses that it isn’t hard – she follows her own weight management programme using a tool called iDiet to help her eat less but avoid feeling hungry or deprived of enjoyment. If this wasn’t possible, she adds, she wouldn’t practise calorie restriction.

What is it that happens to people's faces between the age when they stop growing and the age that they start having wrinkles? Why is it possible to say that someone looks 22 rather than 27? Apart from the obvious signs of age, such as grey hair, baldness, wrinkles and sagginess, what do we see that helps us to judge how old someone is? Even when these atrocities arrive, how come we are pretty good at deciding that one grey-haired wrinkly person is 45 and another 55?
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 10 September 2002

Hahahahahaha

Consider this question fully answered.

I have lived through the science of it.

And now you are nought but an eyeball.

It is the same face... just shittier.

I can precisely calibrate the shittiness of it.

I keep seeing this ugly stranger in the mirror every morning, the fucker has taken everything that was mine!

but I was getting stopped for police line-ups with people 10 yrs older than me when I was in my 20 early 20's, so I can take it.

extraneous20 there

there's no benefit to present me in doing anything for future me.

not like the dude is ever going to be able to pay me back, is it?

― Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Friday, February 27, 2009 5:59 AM (seven years ago)

seven years pass...

fuck u past dmac did u really think i wouldnt find this thread u cunt

― trilby mouth (darraghmac), Monday, January 23, 2017 6:02 PM (three days ago)

I'm impressed that you have managed to express both of those sentiments while avoiding cliche

On the same messageboard no less, although that's more a side effect

Fuckit tho is it? Is it really?