"Robin of Sherwood" episodes - Search/Destroy

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My favourite episode is the one where Richard the Lionheart shows up and turns out to be a complete cockfarmer.

The one with the Templars is good as well.

As indeed is the one where the Sherrif decides to get out of a debt he owes to the local Jewish bloke by dressing up Guy and some soldiers as an angry mob and having a pogrom.

Or the episode where the Sherrif is having a bath and Guy has to scrub him down.

Actually all the episodes are good. Even the ones with Jason Connery.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

does no one like this classic of television?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

me of course. there are a couple of duffers. the early "let's get into nottingham castle for the 13th time" eps, esp the beehives ploy was a bit rub. worst was the (non carpenter scripted) one where Arthur's round table turns up, and it's just some rubbish wooden table in the corner of a room.

faves include the jewish pogrom one you mention, the later "rutterkin" one (with ian ogilvy), crom cruach, the special hounds of lucifer, both the final stories (time of the wolf, and the greatest enemy)

special mention for the end of series 1 with richard the cockfarmer/lionheart because that's HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE ORIGINAL LEGEND. i mean bloody hell, all this rich/poor stuff cos of king john, then when richard turns up it's all sweetness and light? I THINK NOT. bloody ruling class with their "let's kill the infidels, and would you peasants mind awfully paying for it" crap.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

can someone put up a picture of michael praed's lovely mullet? our company's netbastard won't let me look at RoS sites, bah.

rener, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 11:34 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.blackplanet0.freeserve.co.uk/robinhood1.jpg

v

http://www.geocities.com/puckrobin/rh/rbthood.jpg

FITE.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 11:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I only remember the one where the conjured up the devil in a fire. That scared me.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

that was the hounds of lucifer (part 2). it has Rula Lenska as the evil witch head of a sexy coven of nun/witches. That's the second day in a row that I've thought about Rula Lenska. nasty.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

"weird celtic shit" ©i.penman

naturally i liked it, however i cannot remember much: except guy of gisbourne also played stalky of stalky and co, and will scarlett went on to re-invent the brit gangsta movie

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Cor who is the first one, I like him.

Guy of JIZZbourne hahahahahahaha!

The second one is so obviously proto-Legolas.

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

OK so WHEN was this actually on TV? cos i kind of remember it (i mainly remember the Clannad theme tune though chiz curses) but only VERY vaguely... he don't arf look like aragorn son of arathorn though (heh that is my LotR reference for this thread, i will not make any more i promise)

katie (katie), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

BLIMEY sarah got in first with the L**R reference!

katie (katie), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

roooooooooooooooooooooo-bin
(the hooded man)

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

ba-uum

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:29 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-3176/

84-86. Guest stars included: Gemma Craven, Matt Frewer, Ian Ogilvy, Richard O'Brien and Martin Shaw (beinger camper than he was in the professionals).

Ray Winstone obv famous, Clive Mantle was in casualty, John Abineri pops up in things from time to time, Nicholas Grace was the evil head of the cable channel in the Max Headroom fillum,

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i watched it purely to gaze adoringly at michael praed, and can't remember much else. wasn't there a elk-god in it though, or have i gone mad?

angela (angela), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)

was that herne the hunter?

katie (katie), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Michael Praed is indeed looking quite edible under the dodgy hairdo. My memory of the programme is all blurry as is most of my childhood. And adulthood. Oh well.

Emma, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)

the show WAS actually blurry. they used all kinds of weird lens filters to give it that authentic celtic air.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

herne the hunter, that's it! what had herne got to do with anything? they had great shots of the forest that sort of pre-shadowed blair witch, except it was greener.

angela (angela), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I only remember the one where the conjured up the devil in a fire. That scared me.

that was scary. they seemed to have done the effect by showing film of a wax statue of LUCIFER melting in reverse order.

oddly, all the Michael Praed episodes were in summer, while all the ones with Jason Connery are in autumn or winter.

another GRATE episode: the one where they meet some older scumbag outlaws and realise that's their future.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I still want to know whether King John has any actual claim to having invented the dressing gown or whether this was a Baran-esque LIE that my high school history teacher liked to mislead gullible first years with. I suppose it must be the latter but it's such a fantastic lie that I badly want it to be true. I mean, how much more does inventing the dressing gown rock than being Richard Smug Cockfarming Lionheart, eh?

Rebecca (reb), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

herne = survival of cool and democratic Anglo-Saxon Attitudes being ground under iron heel of the Norman oppressor blah blah

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

also king john made a (sadly failed) bid to pay off the debts run up by richard killing foax in the middle east by SELLING ENGLAND TO THE MUSLIMS IN SPAIN!! he is my favourite monarch by some way: what a geezer!!

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

what mark s said. it was all about anglo/celt v norman FITE, (not afro-ken v norman), hence longbows v crossbows etc, and old pagan gods against the nasty acquisitive christians (at least the higher clergy). this was years before whinger Pullman thought it was cool.

jason connery series actually follows the change of the seasons, so some with snow/cold in the middle of the series.

older scumbag outlaws = Adam Bell and his gang. He comes from another genuine legend of outlaws, i'm sure the story is googlable.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

all i remember is Robin or someone following some spots of BLUD to a tree-stump and being worried that Herne had carcked(sp?) it. and will scarlett i think had a grebt polkadotty "jerkin". and the wafty-wafty music "roo-biiing... THE HOODED MANG" haha i was only 7!

katie (katie), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Great Robin of Sherwood things:

i) the TV aerials on Nottingham Castle

ii) the bit where they go to the Black Guardian's castle, and it's blatantly a mediavel ruin, and they explain this away by saying the local peasants ransacked the place very efficiently when the Black Guardian was killed.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Didn't Clannad do the theme tune? Man we were so baked around '92, what were we thinking????????!!!

Erm seriously I remember it well, Saturday afternoons at 5 or so, he looks more like Chesney Hood in that picture to be honest. Wasn't there a few fantasy/sex episodes in it? I remember one was awfully like Conan the Barbarian.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Robiny the Hood!
Can somebody buy me the DVDs please, I can't afford them.

I actually have the Clannad soundtrack somewhere. Must dig it out.

DavidM (DavidM), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)


I liked it a lot, though sth about it also dissatisfied me - a sense that it could have been more original, maybe.

This thread is very odd:

i) it seems to have come from nowhere, very suddenly

ii) it's a topic I thought of posting myself just the other day

iii) It has that 'Hey, Does Anyone Remember The Clangers?' vibe which notoriously afflicts stereotypical Students / hazy 70s revivalists / sinister - but which is VERY RARE ON ILX. ie: usually people on ILX know what they're on about (and I am very used to not having a clue what they're on about) - but here, those same people who are usually so assured and well-informed keep writing things like 'I almost remember this, didn't it have an elk god in it?', 'Did Clannad do the music?' etc etc. I almost have a feeling people are winding me up - I mean, the answers to those questions, at least, are as fresh to me as anything re. TV this year.

I think what this shows is that a) I must have taken the programme a lot more seriously than other people; b) I am older than all the other kids; c) as we know, I never left the 80s anyway.

As for the S/D: whoever said the Templars episode was on the groats: that was surely the very best of a good lot.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Eh my second line was a send up of the vibe you suggest in (iii) just in case you're not giving me that much credit.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

A friend commented once that it was odd how the title music made such a big deal of Robin's uncircumcised nature.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

it was mark wink who made that comment wasn't it?

angela (angela), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I recall some history teacher of mine going on about how the whole Robin Hood thing was a piece of cultural product allied to and contemporary with the Luddites: centring on an unbchanging, rural, resistant England / English. Was he talking out of his hat?

I've also had the good fortune to catch a couple of episodes the recent wacky American New Adventures of Robin Hood which is very full of magick and mullets and also very knowing (cf: shallow Valley Girl / airhead / sorceress Rowena). It's not great. What I want to know is why our American friends pronounce the name Robin Hood with the accent on the Rob: ROBinhood (similar emphasis to nationhood)?

Well?

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:33 (twenty-three years ago)

re teacher-hat: yes he was (it's much earlier, and not working class) (the bourgeois radicals of the mid-18th century were obsessed with Anglo-Sexon Liberties as removed by the Norman junta, and conjured up a lot of of bogus history round abt this time to mythologise-energise their politics: as Goth-Fynder General you shd already know this btw, and be against it... cf also the closely related Gothic-Romantic habit of the forgery of nationalist epics like Ossian's Fingal... ) (robin h as a myth actually predates this also: i'm fairly sure goes back to tudor times, though probably w.diff political resonance)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Anglo-Sexon = how bourgeois radicals speak obv

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)

of course twee medievalism inc.robin hood was given huge boost in first decades of 19th century by sir walter scott (cf ivanhoe): he was not exactly pro-luddite either

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

(*scribbles notes on page marked S in big ledger*)

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

*surely you mean big ledger mark(ed) s*

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 12 September 2002 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I wasn't aware you ledged.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 September 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

but here, those same people who are usually so assured and well-informed keep writing things like 'I almost remember this, didn't it have an elk god in it?', 'Did Clannad do the music?'

Question to 'Mr Showbiz' in the Evening Times the other day: 'Did Kylie Minogue start her career in Neighbours?' (technical answer no, of course, but I don't think that's what they meant, or at least Mr Showbiz assumed not)

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 12 September 2002 13:20 (twenty-three years ago)

This reminds me of my pal Mark (not of this board) who was constantly keen to point out that they didn't swordfight in a historically correct style, every week (they didn't have sharp cutting blades back then, and swords were more for cracking bones, he said. I don't know). I have a strong memory that we always ended up talking about whether dolphins were descended from sheep. Or perhaps it was puffins. This may also be an early symptom of senility, but I'm pretty convinced of it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 13 September 2002 18:31 (twenty-three years ago)

New Adventures Of Robin Hood has in its short (two series life) changed both Robin and Marion (pervious Robin has rakish beird and had no mullet and was quite good, previous Marion was flatchested but more attractive - new one is buxom but mings a bit).

I too have always wondered about the ROBinhood US pronunciation. Its mental.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 13 September 2002 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)


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