Movies are bad. And we as a society need to become aware of this.
I have also been reflecting on the fact that sometimes TV is quite great, though it is so widely stigmatized. Even in the quaint realm of comedy: one single episode of Simpsons or Third Rock will make me laugh more times than any entire movie ever has. And actually just comedy. Funny TV shows are the only good reason to construe looking into an activity.
Honestly though, and this will ruin my currently non-existent credibilty, I enjoy the two geniunly charming series, Northern Exposure and Digimon season Two. Oh and Cowboy Bebop: it is great.
So, the occasional greatness of TV is something else society needs to awaken itself to.
The issue may, I venture, have to do with the organism that is the series: there is some value to this form that has yet to be recognised. The way it takes a formula -- a certain relation, and tension, of characters -- and repeats it endlessly, seems to be the only thing that makes for fiction that I like. Has anyone read the Aubry/Marturin series, by Mr. O'Brien? It's the shit, no doubt. The only thing I've ever enjoyed reading.
The primary virtue of the A/M series is the goodness of the two characters: not really the point right now. What is interesting, are the contradictions of the series genre: take Marturin's relationship with Diana. It is necessary for there to be tension, and therefore Diana is always running away from Marturin, which is why he's such a mad crazy opium eater. But the fact that their straigtening it out is an unacceptable and so unstable state -- for then there is no tension -- essentially makes their being apart pointless, because it is all for no end: no tension then either. It is a fence that can only be straddled for so long: after their marriage, really, the Marturin/Diana relationship did nothing for the series, though it was just as chaotic. And it is true of all the other tensions in the series, like Aubry's bad luck with money and promotion: after the tenth book it is all contrived.
The solution is to kill the girl, or the boy, whoever is the supporting role, off. But what we often find is that the author has only allowed one specific type of character that fits with the other character in a valid way to create good tension. So every series would seem to have its finite limit, and must constantly worsen as it appraches this limit: and to be sure we find this is true. It was so stupid when Flieshman and I-can't-remember-her-name got it together. Yet a series is always so much more engaging than an isolated fiction, though it be even more flawed.
In conclusion, the episodic series is a very undervalued entity, and a damn interesting one too. And things that aren't the series are almost never great.
― Brian Mowrey (Brian Mowrey), Thursday, 12 September 2002 03:47 (twenty-three years ago)
One advantage tv shows have, and one I wish more would take advantage of, is the opportunity to really build and develop a character. My favorite tv dramas (Homicide, Hill St. Blues, the Sopranos, Oz) have done this.
― James Blount, Thursday, 12 September 2002 03:58 (twenty-three years ago)
The latter is something which is being challenged by shows like 24 (definately) - where the whole thing is just one story. Laterly with shows like Dawsons Creek and Buffy where larger overarcing plots are the norm outside the monster/personal dilema of the week formula. These are shows which ought to have a planned end point. TV is often so much better than films but is much more constrained by the rigidity of programming and formula.
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)
Okay, take for instance All in the Family. As you know, for years and years, Archie and Mike (Meathead) constantly argued. Then toward the end of the series, Mike and Gloria move away. Mike is teary as he's saying goodbye to Archie, and Archie is in disbelief, wondering why Mike isn't happy to be getting away from him. Then Mike says that he's always loved him, despite their conflicts. Mike leaves, and Archie is sitting alone. Then Archie thinks about it, and he becomes teary-eyed. Edith enters the room, notices Archie crying, and then slips back into the kitchen without Archie knowing that she saw him. She announces something like "I've got your lemonade" from the kitchen, Archie quickly dries his eyes, and Edith enters. Utterly devastating. And it wouldn't have been so effective if there hadn't been scores and scores of episodes where Archie and Mike traded verbal abuse.
Another example, Kimagure Orange Road (an anime series). *SPOILERS AHEAD* Kyosuke (teen guy), Madoka (teen gal), and Hikaru (teen gal) are all friends. Hikaru is kind of an annoying, somewhat dim girl and has latched herself onto Kyosuke and considers him her boyfriend; Kyosuke doesn't agree, but keeps this to himself to not hurt her feelings. Kyosuke and Madoka are attracted to each other, but Kyosuke doesn't take action. This is pretty much the theme for the whole series (oh yeah, Kyosuke has wacky supernatural powers, but never mind that). Then, the series ends with a mini-movie, where Kyosuke finally picks Madoka. Hikaru reveals to Kyosuke that she knew all along that he didn't particularly like her and that he liked Madoka instead, but she did what she did because maybe one day he would like her. So Hikaru sits down on the sidewalk, crying, in the rain. Kyosuke leaves her there, sees an umbrella in a storefront, thinks for a minute, then continues to walk away. Madoka then is revealed to be somewhat unregretful of losing Hikaru as a friend. So, for the entire series, part of the humor was in this dumb annoying girl, Hikaru, and then it turns out that she wasn't so dumb after all. I am not doing this series justice by distilling it down, but after you see its 40 or so episodes and then the final movie, it gives you an incredibly intense, lingering feeling.
I don't share the opinion that "movies suck," but certainly, a series that is carefully constructed (and there are very few of these) can have a tremendous effect that a film may not have.
― Ernest P., Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― B:Rad (Brad), Friday, 13 September 2002 01:11 (twenty-three years ago)
I agree with both statements. But, TV can use time to its advantage to make a deeper impact (but this applies to a *very* small number of shows). Say a friend of yours, who you've known for years, imparts some kind of startling admission to you. Then, say you've met someone at a bar, chatted with them for an hour or two, and then he makes the same admission. Certainly there's a different feeling in each case, due to the familiarity you have with the person. (I know, a real life person isn't like a TV/film character, and we relate to them differently, but still.) That said, I'd rather watch films than TV any day.
― Ernest P., Friday, 13 September 2002 12:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 13 September 2002 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 13 September 2002 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ernest P., Friday, 13 September 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)
Movies on the other hand tend to benefit a lot of the time from all the extra medling. Honestly, regular movies are better than indie movies, most of the time. It is the same thing really. It is not really my theory, though, that the meddling is what makes movies not great: I still atribute it to something about the shortness.
I too would rather watch a movie than a TV show: if it is a movie I have seen before. A series has more replay value for me. I admit some of the appeal is the vicarious aspect: but what a cool aspect it is.
― Brian Mowrey (Brian Mowrey), Friday, 13 September 2002 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Brian Mowrey (Brian Mowrey), Friday, 13 September 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)