Yet another foxhunting question

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Like, seeing as we're about to go into a total war situation that'll probably last to the end of our lifetimes, wouldn't it be better all around if more people got into bloodsports, to get desensitized to violence? I mean, we're pretty soft generally

― dave q, Monday, 16 September 2002 08:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought this was going to be a thread on chasing hotties in the pub or sumfing.

― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 16 September 2002 08:30 (twenty-three years ago)

"Was it a fox that bit him?"

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 16 September 2002 08:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure following on a horse while some dogs chase a fox is that good a model for modern war, generally. If it is, we need to immediately replace all our generals with these twunts in red jackets on horses.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 16 September 2002 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

wasn't that what lost you the French and Indian War?

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 16 September 2002 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Tarantino's making another one.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 04:55 (twenty-three years ago)

why don't we just beat the crap out of each other out in the streets? killing animals is for pussies.

― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 05:05 (twenty-three years ago)

except when ted nugent does it ('cause he uses a crossbow) or when ozzy osbourne does it ('cause he uses his TEETH!)

― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 05:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd be far less opposed to foxhunting if the people chased the fox barefoot then tried to kill it with their teeth. (Though my ideal solution is still to replace the fox with a randomly selected member of the hunt.)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 11:55 (twenty-three years ago)

like Charles Moore :).

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

that wasn't very random robin!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

no, but he is the quintessential Countryside Alliance fraudster (bangs on about "the countryside" when he really means foxhunting = spends most of his time in the peaceful shire of Canary Wharf)

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 05:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's not give the tossers any more credit if they live in the country! The Beaufort Hunt used to gather in front of my house, and I live my whole childhood in the country, and my perspective is that most country people are against this too - it's always been an exclusively upper class pursuit.

Sorry - not attacking you, Robin. Your point is entirely fair. I just sensed the rising of the common nonsense argument that we city folks don't understand country ways, and kneejerked!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Dead right, Martin! The actual level of interest in / support for hunting in the countryside is much lower than the media would have us believe - even the Times recognises this now. Scratch a Countryside Alliance member and you get someone who spends most of his time in Kensington and Belgravia. Scratch Dorchester West station (a town with a strongish CA element) and you literally get a graffiti tribute to Tupac. Now tell that to the Torygraph!

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Piece on C4 news tonight about the hunting-with-dogs 'ban' in Scotland. Apparently it's still perfectly legal to chase a fox across open countryside with horses and hounds as long as you have some marksmen along to shoot the thing with a gun at the end: it counts as raising a wild animal from its lair or something. And if the dogs get to the fox before the gunmen do? Well, that's only to be expected, please don't do it again.

Chap on horse (paraphrase, obv): "Before, we were controlling the population by picking off the sick and infirm foxes who'd go for easy food like chickens [i.e. they could be caught by the hunt - most foxes apparently aren't]; now we probably get the healthy ones too".

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Which just confirms that the use of trained marksmen would be a much more efficient way to control the fox population after a proper ban.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's not give the tossers any more credit if they live in the country!

And minus 5000 credit points for the FUCKERS (shall I repeat my, er, hilarious "putting the 'farmers' back into 'cockfarmers'" gag even though it wasn't worth bothering with the first time) who defaced White Horse Hill in Uffington. 'Course, I'd like to believe that everyone else round here was as annoyed as I was and it did more harm than good, but STILL. Grarr. At least they used paint that washed off within days.

I really hope that the chalk the guy from the Really Wild Show was walking across in whatever feeble TV programme I was watching which had a section on it was just the weird scratchy area on the top of the hill opposite and not part of the actual horse, too.

(Have I told you - you being whichever parts of the universe can't get out of the way fast enough - how much JOY I felt seeing the outline of those familiar scarp etchings on the cover of An English Settlement? Yes, I think I have, and it wasn't very interesting or on-topic then.)

― disgruntled of white horse vale (reb), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:52 (twenty-three years ago)

what do you expect, Rebecca? They *don't* love the countryside at all - the farming methods they favour have been a long-term, unfolding disaster.

http://www.livingstonemusic.net/ruralway.htm

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 19 September 2002 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Newsflash: Tory Countryside Alliance Toffs attack the Riot Place - who fight back with metal truncheons

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i had every intention of going down at lunchtime and shouting GET ORF MOI LAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHND, but then i didn't. there are lots of helicopters buzzing round though...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

so that's why my bus was all fucked up and shit. tyhat said, i really don't care if fox-hunting goes on. it's absurd that labour supporters think it redeems labour's total bankruptcy.

― bastards, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

some how some CA types they have entered the Commons Chamber - police security failure.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

what is it with right-wingers trying to undermine our democracy this week?

― HKM, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY ARE BEATING THE POLICE WITH THEIR FLAT CAPS!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

set the dogs on them SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The Daily Mail was right all along incidentally and Tony Blair is entitled to shoot them all to protect his property.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

dave q, i think we've compensated for our desperate inadequacy in survival tactics and general usefulness thru fashion. see: work jeans, army jackets, work boots, buzz cuts

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Police Alsation Vs Fox Hunting Hounds

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

that should be German Shepherd Dog (Alsatian)

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

MY GOD THIS COUNTRY IS INSANE. My inner Tory anarchist can't help siding with the fox-hunting crazies over the 'liberal' mentalists who dedicate their energies to stopping them.

― HKM, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it worth pointing out that earlier this week a child was shot dead because he was mistaken for a fox, and that this huge protest might not necessarily be exactly respectful to his memory?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, coz kids look so like foxes don't they?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

they were lamping in devon

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I challenge you to tell the difference when you're running around with children and guns in the dark.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that like Cold Lamping With Flavor Flav?

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What other right-wingers have tried to undermine our democracy this week?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the deal with drag hunting? Correct me if I'm wrong but is this when the hounds follow a scent as is the same as a foxhunt in every respect except that they're not tracking down a live animal and nothing gets killed? So if all of the hunts switched to drag hunting no-one would actually be out of a job and not a single foxhound would actually have to be put down?

oh and xpost with Alba - Fathers for Justice aren't of any particular political hue are they? I thought they were just a bunch of divorced dudes who are being denied access to their sprogs?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes - it doesn't fit in with any established left-wing cause, but that hardly makes it 'right wing', does it?

And since when is Buckingham Palace a bastion of democracy?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT IF THEY HAD BEEN AL QAEDA?!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

true. those father dudes do bring to mind Metro op-ed pieces though.

WHAT IF OSAMA BIN LADEN RODE TO HOUNDS?

― HKM, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

U&K question: where does Al-Qaeda stand on the fox hunting issue?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Can foxes be trained to become suicide bombers, and will they disguise themselves as children?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

you could certainly strap a bomb to a fox.

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Are foxes allowed into the House of Commons debating chamber under any circumstance?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Do guide foxes exist?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Bombfoxes?

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

They need to be stamped out.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Are foxes allowed into the House of Commons debating chamber under any circumstance?

there are no fanciable MPs AFAIK.

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

If a few Bombkids are inadvertently shot in the process, that's a price I'm prepared to pay.

Mark - YRI

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

YRI?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

you're right on?

you raving idiot?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The latter, I guess. I fancy Teresa May.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure she will.

― Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

if a switch to drag hunting means no job losses and no foxhounds on one way trips to Mr. Heriot's surgery, then no 2 year delay is necessary. Either you need a 2 year delay to allow the redcoated poshos to retrain as manicurists and double glazing salesmen coz a ban *will* impact on their livelihoods or they can all switch to drag hunting in an instant and everything's hunky dory. So which is it?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

What job losses? I never knew that Master of the Hunt was like, a proper job. Why didn't my school careers advisor offer me that?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

is it wrong that i am laughing my arse off at all of this?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

for fox sake steve

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

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