Alien franchise directors vs. Mission: Impossible franchise directors

(didn't count the AVP movies, obviously, because fuck that.)

Alien, by far.

de palma > bird > fincher > cameron > woo > scott > abrams > jeunet - not sure how that works out but since alien work actually does represent some of the best work scott and cameron did and i can't really say that about m:i w/ de palma and definitely not woo (quite the opposite) i'll go w/ alien series.

i think the deciding factor here is sigourney weaver >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tom cruise

De Palma > Woo > Cameron > Fincher > Bird >>>>>>> everyone else

The best of these directors is obv De Palma and the worst is pretty obv Jenuet. The middle clouds the issue.

are we voting on the directors as a whole or just their work on these franchises

Jeunet worse than Abrams?

He's had more opportunities to work my last good nerve.

kill kill kill "franchise," word and deed

throw fucking Wendy's in

Mission: Impossilicious

http://www.chicagoposse.com/LiveJournal/frostysnfries-l.jpg

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Just watched tom cruise sending secret communications through bible groups on usenet and now I'm wondering if I'm the only one on here actually posting about modern rock hits of 1999 and everyone else is a buncha spooks from Langley.

There is no conceivable universe where De Palma > Jeunet!

i can conceive of that universe, and live in it

Carrie vs er, Amelie.

I'm sure we can all agree on S. Weaver.

Does ">" stand for "soggier"?

Jeunet is non-stop terrible.

No, I'm pretty certain that is DePalma you're thinking of there.

^ crazy talk

Leave it, me, it's Chinatown ILX

I can see where you might be confused, as De Palma is even at his worst a master of his medium and Jenuet abuses post-production to vomit all over everything in sight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lk75ycHH3w&feature=fvwrel

^ way better than the scene it inspired in the Untouchables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zBS8jKdaw

^ way better than the movie it inspired of Amelie

(I'll grant you, Untouchables is probably De Palma's second or third worst movie.)

The Untouchables is aces compared to the likes of The Black Dahlia, Snake Eyes or Bonfire of the Vanities tho.

All those movies have good things in them. Only Redacted and maybe Wise Guys (too scared to watch it) couple possibly be worse.

Man, you guys like shit films. Are those of you saying that Jeunet is the worst *really* trying to claim that the awesome Delicatessen and City of Lost Children are worse than FUCKING TITANIC OR TWATTING FACE/OFF???

Yes.

Delicatessen is ok, City of Lost Children is Jeunet's best - you couldn't pay me to re-watch his other films tho.

De Palma, by contrast, has a long-storied career with hacky shit on his resume but also some all-time great amazing stuff like Carrie and fucking Scarface. so duh.

ergo anyone saying Jeunet is better than De Palma is insane imho

Dressed to Kill! Phantom of the Paradise!

Jeunet is corny and embarrassing for real. De Palma at front and Jeuent at back is spot on.

I would put Jeunet ahead of Cameron but that's just me and I know no one will agree. just really hate his style.

I'd accept an argument for De Palma, though I think he's way overrated, but the rest of them? Uggggggh. I don't see how you get much cornier and more embarrassing (and badly acted and shittily written) than Titanic.

Went through Aliens, T1, and T2 over the past few months. Guy does (or did) action at a level above just about anyone. He seems pretty hate-able and he hasn't made anything great in 20 years, but respect where it's due.

i was gonna spin some theory about how the alien directors did their best work in those films and the MI ones did their worst, but that the latter are a superior group, but it's not really true and who cares anyway

my problem is I like half of each quartet of directors, but apart from Alien I don't think any of the films are anybody's best work

Are those of you saying that Jeunet is the worst *really* trying to claim that the awesome Delicatessen and City of Lost Children are worse than FUCKING TITANIC OR TWATTING FACE/OFF???

Face/Off was on last night - the whole Nicolas Cage 'cult' thing is hugely tiring but caught some of Face/Off again last night and its p/good really.

I remember it being not bad until the end, the last scene is just nauseating

i rewatched it again recently and found it pretty tiresome, to be honest.

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Really do think Bird is my fave director on the list.

me too, though his MI actually took him down a peg for me.

wow this list though. IRON GIANT, BLADE RUNNER, ALIEN and THE KILLER are all candidates for my top-5/desert island list.

I feel you. DRESSED TO KILL, CARRIE, FEMME FATALE, and THE FURY are all candidates for my desert island list.

Will say that MI is his weakest film, but that's just a measure of his overall quality, rather than a criticism.

^^

Bird, I mean

his weakest bird

A Fincher plus a Scott beat a De Palma, and Woo is just ok IMO.

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This is my fault again, isn't it.

I wish Verhoeven had directed one of these.