What colour is seventeen

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Any synesthesthes out there?

Pete (Pete), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It's yellow. But I'm not a synesthete.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Green. Not really, but I have a strong feeling on this. Darkish green. Slightly fluorescent.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Pantone 17-1

Graham (graham), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, thank you Nick - I just won that bet.

Now to double your money - what colour is twenty three.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Twenty three is a combination of clear yellow and dark fuschia, swirled down the middle.


Seventeen is orange, no question.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i read some research into this in a book called "The Number Sense".

Alan (Alan), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

23 seems like it might be emerald green. But I'm not so sure of this one.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

HKS 23 E

(Guess who has Photoshop and essay procrastination to do?)

Graham (graham), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought green too.

Sam (chirombo), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Darkish olive green.

Synaesthesia rules, except for constantly getting D, H and R mixed up all the time as a kid cause they were too-close shades of yellow/gold.

petra jane (petra jane), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

No, it IS yellow and fuschia.

(I don't think I qualify as a synesthete because I don't see the colours as a hallucination-type thing, only in my mind's eye. I used to do it properly as a child, but less so now. Occassionally I get a visual/ smell crossover, but even that's getting rarer)

Anna (Anna), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I would say it is a deep red/burgundy, so NOT a green! But I'm not a synesthete either.

23 = yellowy browny.

Sarah (starry), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to get Saturday and Thursday mixed up as they were both similar shades of purple-pink. (Saturday slightly darker, but not much).

Anna (Anna), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, lots of greens - that's kinda spooky! [i intentionally avoided reading anything before posting. 23 is a coboltish grey.]

petra jane (petra jane), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

but anna, thursday is much taller than saturday!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Thursday has perspective, I think it is paler because it seems further away. Saturday has a kind of folded leather texture like the scrunched up top of a pixie boot. Wednesday also has this texture, but Wednesday is bottle green.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Seventeen has to be blue, surely, due to lots of teenage angst.

Wednesday is a sort of cacky shite-brown, especially at about 4 o'clock. Thursdays are yellow - a sort of pale butter-yellow, not the sort of freaky acid yellow that makes you wear sunglasses to avoid getting a migraine.

C J (C J), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If we all keep very quiet, will the synesthete thread go away? (I'm scared)

Graham (graham), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Anna, can you tell us all how we smell, then?

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

We all smell of wee.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is like Tony Hancock in 'The Rebel' - "What shapes are your colours"?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

As I said, I don't really get it strongly any more. It's usually in terms of 'oh that's a green/ silver/ light blue smell' rather than 'oh Nabisco is a cinnimon smelling name' (which it is though, but (I can't actually smell the smell, it just seems appropriate). My mum and my grandmother both used to do the same thing when they were children.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Very useful aid for memory of course. Storing FACTS in the smell portion of the brain is using up otherwise wasted space.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't understand the question.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 16 September 2002 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

(I so desperately want to post a picture of the Nabisco Honey Maid Cinnamon Graham Cracker box, but I can't seem to find one anywhere.)

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 16 September 2002 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Seventeen has to be blue, surely, due to lots of teenage angst.

But it could be black? Or a fireery red??

brg30 (brg30), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

17 is purple cos it IS. 23 is yellow and green, patterned

anyone have characters for numbers? like little minidramas when you do mental(ist?) arithmetic? like 2 is quite easy going, 5 (who is always blue) is a bit brash but kindhearted in an all american goody way. as numbers get nearer to 10 they get more cliquey and evil. 9 is the evillest, 10 is kinda fat and loud but sinister 9 runs the show def.

1 is ineffable, but 11 is THE ENIGMA!!!!

bob zemko (bob), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

fridays are yellow- getting brown sturm colour. but that may well be a legacy of the CRUNCHIE tv ads that have been running since i was born

bob zemko (bob), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, any sense of synaesthesia I ever get is suspect, as I can't separate it from everyday untraceable mental association.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

aren't the associations supposed to be different for everyone, and they remain constant throughout their lives?

hamish (hamish), Monday, 16 September 2002 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.kraft.com/art/pics/brands/usa/22_honey_maid.jpg

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

grrrr! this used to work ALWAYS and now it never does. Anyway, nabisco, you will find you have an entire NabiscoWorld at nabisco.com, incl. uber-ilx snack Nabisco Grahams.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, any sense of synaesthesia I ever get is suspect, as I can't separate it from everyday untraceable mental association


yeah...

I have always been a bit puzzled that when I was a kid I assigned femaleness or maleness to colours and numbers, but they weren't just like pink for boys. In fact the only pink-related one was a dark crimsonish pink and it was male. I can remember the number correlations still: female = 1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10. male = 4, 5, 7. (this seems a bit unusual to me because in most of my play things/characters were only assigned maleness, unless they had obvious characteristics to prevent this, like breasts on dolls or whatever). I don't think this really has anything to do with synasthesia but,...can anyone relate???

spectra, Tuesday, 17 September 2002 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)

meant to say "but they weren't just, like, pink for girls"

!

spectra, Tuesday, 17 September 2002 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)

seventeen is green and black polka dots.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Revive!

I only get this in a mental-association way, not in a hallucinatory way, and I'd like to know if you get the full-blown version - is it as beautiful as I imagine it?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Yes!!


17 is a combo of 1 (black) and 7 (teal)!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago)

http://sarien.sourceforge.net/screenshots/s070-pq1-final.png

Holy Crap! Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago)

cyan

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Do you get it with sounds too?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago)

1 = scarlet
2 = dark blue
3 = ochre
4 = normal blue
5 = yellow
6 = magenta
7 = light blue
8 = very light yellow
9 = brown

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:01 (twenty years ago)

i don't SEE these - i'm sure i just associate them. Letters are male and female too:

Male
BCDGHIKNOQRTWXZ

Female
AEFJLMPSUVY

It's probably all from picture books I read as a little boy.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago)

___ (___), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago)

i.http://www.durham21.co.uk/images/2002-2003/michaelmas/1240/lady.jpeg

___ (___), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago)

EGA!

Holy Crap! Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago)

But Charlie, 4 is red?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago)

And 5 is blue! 2 is yellow. Saturday is silver.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago)

four is a regular primary blue - only 1 is red. And 2 is also blue. 5 and 6 are also correct.

these are the the ones i'm completely sure about - the others are kind of sketchy. 9 could well be violet. Shit - actually has anyone got the colours for BBC Basic programming? I used to be able to do it and I reckon that's where my choices come from.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago)

2 is red and is arrogant and stuck-up. It believes itself to be superior to all other numbers.

7 is green and has strange, witch-like powers. Don't fuck with 7.

8 is blue and is kind, caring and fair. It is the big brother of the numbers.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:47 (twenty years ago)

haha, nice one Wooden.

1 - is a good singer but also rather secretive.
2 - yes, he is a bit stuck up. rude even.
3 - jolly. good fun to have around.
4 - loyal and understanding. a good confidante.
5 - also fun but messier and more shambolic than 3. might get you in trouble if you're not careful.
6 - six is just six but he is everybody's friend. a good all round guy.
7 - she is very mild and gentle. maybe a bit serious. a mother.
8 - like Wooden said. A father.
9 - gay

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago)

8 is mystical and evil, you idiot.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Colours in BBC Basic:

COLOUR 0 Black
COLOUR 1 Red
COLOUR 2 Green
COLOUR 3 Yellow
COLOUR 4 Blue
COLOUR 5 Magenta
COLOUR 6 Cyan
COLOUR 7 White
COLOUR 8 Intensified Black
COLOUR 9 Intensified Red

Hmmm - as I thought, they're not far off my own list.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago)

8 is just one fat lady.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago)

the color of carmine gotti.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:10 (twenty years ago)

0 = black
1 = black
2 = yellow
3 = green
4 = light orange/yellow
5 = black
6 = orange
7 = orange
8 = black
9 = purplish/maroon

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago)

0 = black
1 = white
2 = red
3 = yellow
4 = brown
5 = turquoise
6 = purple
7 = light green
8 = dark green
9 = dark blue

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago)

3 is a magic number.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago)

1 = black
2 = light pink
3 = violet
4 = blue-green
5 = red
6 = yellowish orange
7 = teal
8 = brick red
9 = yellow

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Triangular

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
um, seemed to remember a better synaesthesia thread than this but maybe not. anyway:

Horizon
Thu 30 Sep, 9:00 pm - 9:50 pm 50mins

Derek Tastes of Earwax

Every time James Wannerton sees Derek he experiences a strong taste of earwax. James runs a pub and Derek is one of his regulars. Another regular's name gives him the taste of wet nappies. For some puzzling reason, James' sense of sound and taste are intermingled.

John sees words as colours - even though he is blind. Both men have a mysterious condition called synaesthesia - in which their senses have become linked.

For years scientists dismissed it, putting it in the same category as seances and spoon-bending. But now, synaesthesia is sparking a revolution in our understanding of the human mind. For it seems that we are all synaesthetic to some degree. Some now believe that it might even explain how we evolved two of the traits that define our species and have transformed our world - creativity and language.

In a film that is touching, witty and filled with cutting-edge science, Horizon continues its 40th anniversary season with an exploration of this many-faceted world.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Another regular's name gives him the taste of wet nappies

So how in the fuck did he know what wet nappies tasted like?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I was a temporary synaesthete...when I had an operation for adenoids at 8 or 9, apparently I told the anaesthetist I could smell purple.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I find this totally fascinating.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/health/story/0,,1047635,00.html

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:31 (twenty years ago)

the 1 is dark grey and the 7 is grotty purple.sometimes it's dark sometimes it's lighter

chimera, Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago)

was interesting enough but nothing new (the one shocking thing was the test they used to see whether normal people had any kind of inate number line built into their unconscious minds. they tested people on a computer to see whether they responded faster to small numbers with their left hands than with their right hands, which they did. which is obviously proof THAT PEOPLE CAN TYPE)

martin has a piece on freaky trigger at the moment that is vaguely related and, well, The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat is also very similarly packed with fascinating case studies.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:02 (twenty years ago)

Still thought it (17) was green when I saw this again

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago)

actually, one of the tests they were using to see if people were synaesthetes was consistency - ie the same number is the same colour all the time with synesthetes whereas people who are putting it on aren't as consistent.

the other interesting thing was the one bloke who had no colours associated for words except words that formed some kind of sequence - numbers, days of the week, months of the year etc

koogs (koogs), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:15 (twenty years ago)

all recent horizons have been utterly banal gcse-level shlock! i dunno, how many times can u reiterate the obvious to make it sound like these ppl (aka every human ever) is some kind of super mutant x-man . "and this happens in the brain" i esp liked the blind man who saw 2004 as here and 1949 as back there somewhere

ps 17 is purple

candour floss (mwah), Friday, 1 October 2004 10:20 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
From today's Financial Times online:

Colour in the eye of the beholder
By Victoria Griffith

Some people are convinced they can see coloured auras around others that no one else can detect. Researchers at University College London say the auras may be nothing more than the condition known as emotion-colour synaesthesia, generated by a quirk of the brain. "These colours do not reflect hidden energies being given off by other people," says Jamie Ward, author of a study appearing in this month's edition of Cognitive Neuropsychology. "Rather they are created entirely in the brain of the beholder."

About one in 2,000 people say they see auras. Dr Ward's group studied a woman known as GW who could see distinct colours when looking at photos of people she knew or when their names were read out. Words triggered a colour that spread across her whole field of vision, while people themselves appeared to have coloured auras around them. The scientists discovered that certain vocabulary generated colour responses in GW.

Researchers believe people who see auras may have a cross-wiring in the brain confusing centres involved in emotions with those of the senses. The condition runs in families.

"The ability of some people to see the coloured auras of others has held an important place in folklore and mysticism throughout the ages," says Dr Ward. "It is not hard to imagine how such an interpretation could arise."

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago)


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