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The Enckleman og against Villa that is. Marvel at it's sheer cockeyed stupidity or just sympathise with the goalie's misforune.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 07:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Or was it a goal? (Not that you can tell from the pic!)

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 07:53 (twenty-three years ago)

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― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 07:59 (twenty-three years ago)

no, legally it shouldn't have been given. for comedic value, however, the referee had no choice but to allow it.

― michael w., Tuesday, 17 September 2002 08:12 (twenty-three years ago)

why should it not have been given? (just curious)

― Jeff W (Jeff W), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 08:46 (twenty-three years ago)

According to the BBC, if the goalie hadn't touched it, it would have been a corner to the 'Blues'. I must have missed that page in The Referee's Chart.

Even if it hadn't counted, it would have still been just as funny. Perhaps.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 08:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I bloody missed it, heard the radio person howl with laughter, rushed into front room, and missed replay, then at the end they decided to show it again while I was in the toilet. Tugay's was a bit of a howler as well though.

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 08:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Alpay, you mean? It was - worse, I reckon. I feel for Enckelman - he's got such a starving street urchin face, bless 'im. I reckon he didn't touch it, persnally, but michael w. is otm.

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 09:27 (twenty-three years ago)

That's the feller, I always get those two mixed up. Villa really did go to pieces at the end of that game though, they all looked as if they were going to cry. Graham Taylor was hilarious on the sidelines though, especially after Vassel's disallowed goal.

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 09:34 (twenty-three years ago)

What was going through Enckleman's mind as the ball bounced beyond him? "Oh bugger, I've given away a corner"?

I really don't think he touched it, but possibly wasn't aware that you can't score from a throw-in. That law's fairly obscure (can anyone recall this happening in an attacking context? Long-throw specialists bamboozling the defence?) - I suspect the home crowd's reaction should the ref have pointed to the corner flag would've been an enormous "Huh?".

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 10:58 (twenty-three years ago)

This is the most boring comedy moment ever.

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)

my brother supports Villa...he will get hell for this when he comes back from college.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 11:43 (twenty-three years ago)

"can anyone recall this happening in an attacking context"

Yes, I remember a goal in a lower division English game, but I can't for the life of me remember which teams were involved. The attacking team took a throw-in, and it was VERY LONG, the ball bounced once, and looped right over the keeper's head without anyone getting a touch. The ref gave a goal. While there is debate about whether the Villa goalie touched the ball, this one def should not have been given. Serve Villa right for selling SChmeichel. This would never have happened with the Great Dane around. Fools...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 12:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I am also a Villa supporter (in theory) and this is the first thing I've been able to relate to since 1981.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)

kilian i remember a div 1 game with sheff utd in it that had a similar incident as the one you describe BUT the ref didn't give the goal cos as you say no one touched it from the throw.

― bob zemko (bob), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

whatver happened to that tranmere geezer with the long throw? dave challinor was it?

― bob zemko (bob), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

i remember he was useless except for his throw. bit like ian harte and his freekick.

― bob zemko (bob), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I want to know what ANDY AND ROBBIE had to say about it all.

- Villa will bounce back... Graham Taylor knows what he's doing.

- Great start for Birmingham... it's a long way to go, but ifthey can string a few more like this together, who knows?

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

pff graham taylor has absolutley no clue abt what he is doing: in a short space of time he has already turned a presentable bunch of players into hapless dullards. his signings all dud except for king peter crouch (who will not recieve the training he needs to really make him a top top playa) look at who he's sold and who he's bought: kinsella, johnsen dragging them down into mediocrity. the spirit is visibly worse than it was under gregory too. the only thing that might save taylor is how a good crop of youngsters might emerge.

i'm not a villa fan in case you were wondering

― bob zemko (bob), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

PF, that's so right I can almost see Des's eyebrow lifting at Robbie.

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

it was andy, robbie, ally, barry and les. along with itv's new golden boy matt "the pun" smith. why do itv need so many "experts" constantly talking over each other? and why are they, to a man, pricks?

― michael w., Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Les = Ferdinand??

'The Pun' also = bizarre rhymester. One of the strangest TV pundits ever I think.

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I wouldn't get too excited about Brum, they always used to beat Villa, back in the pre-million pound transfer days. It's West Brom you want to watch.

I tried to enter Carsmile's Yahoo league with an entriely random West Midlands XI, I'd probably be doing quite well if I could get it to work.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

ferdinand, yes.

matt smith...what the? no occasion, incident, player is safe from his word-smithery. wait...matt 'word'smith. i can do it, too!

― michael w., Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Did someone diss Robbie Earle? NOT ALLOWED.

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

they need Richie Benaud and snicko to judge that goal. "no, snicko says he didn't nick it, he's very unlucky" cue debate about technology and the third umpire.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

"his signings all dud except for king peter crouch"

Are you serious? He's the king of mediocrity.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 11:32 (twenty-three years ago)

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