thread where we contemplate deposed barclays ceo bobby d & daughter dancing to jayz

#swag

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/03/article-0-13E8C41A000005DC-826_634x475.jpg

#HMD

nae gettin away from the fact she looks pretty cute there

altho the decal on her blazer looks like the crest of a police constabulary

"hold my dick" instead of "suck my dick" is amazing, class connotations wise

http://i.imgur.com/uz6Uo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ulqXf.jpg

in which bobby d surreptitiously does a HMD gesture to the select committee for whatever the fuck

Want to see his daughter in a reality tv show.

Hopefully someone will make it happen.

^^^yessssss

guy reminds me of the bit just after 7 mins on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZWrWg0SpO0

she will obviously have some sort of media career but she surely is too rich and haughty to deign to reality tv

probably like a vlog or something

http://i.imgur.com/F6rAH.png

Threads like this make me so proud to be British!

Rocked by a scandal on this scale, and who do we vent our anger at? The banks? The traders? The City? The woefully inadequate regulatory system? The successive governments that refused to do anything about any of the above, while fawning over these supposed "wealth creators"?

No. The most reprehensible villain in all this is a rather unpleasant and deeply spoiled but still physically highly attractive adolescent girl. This is the single most appropriate place we can focus our opprobrium!

Well done all round, chaps. Brilliant thread.

you are such a retard

fuck off out of all my threads, ever

"Retard."

Nice.

Don't worry, the Daily Mail will continue to cater to your interests perfectly.

There was a hateful article in the Telegraph the other day which essentially comprised one big photo for people to perv at, a load of stuff about her outfit and obnoxious Twitter behaviour, and the line "we should be nice to her, she didn't ask to be born into a world of wealth and privilege". The issue of her father having presided and possibly intentionally covered up a massive corporate fraud was neither here nor there, evidently.

Bobby D looks ridiculous in that picture and it has brought joy to my cynical heart. Of course the daughter is completely blameless here.

It's just frustrating, because it seems like there is so much that the press could be going after in terms of banking culture and the disgusting abuses of wealth and privilege - but it's just so much easier to take cheap shots of "look at this horrible girl (plus giant photos of her in short skirts.)" It just stinks of diversionary tactics and that British tabloid kind of misogynist outrage-plus-titillation thing.

Go after Bob Diamond all you like. Gut city banking culture like the rotten herring it is. Joris Luyendijk seems to be doing a pretty good job of that. But what the fuck does this vile little girl have to do with it?

alright then argue this, why is she vile? like not just guilt-by-association, give some coherent reason for hating her that isn't just transparently resentment

No. Because arguing about whether some spoiled little girl is vile or not is a stupid soap opera diversionary distraction from the actual issue, which is whether her father's leadership of a bank during a period of highly questionable activity was negligent or outright criminal.

This is just not the issue.

I don't get it, this has been all over the press all week, even the bits of the press that think that enormous amounts of wealth and privilege are brilliant. I mean in terms of press coverage it's been: Calling on Diamond to resign > fuming at corruption > speculating over which ministers have been involved > Diamond daughter. Although the latter certainly has the potential to be in the public eye for a lot longer.

Seems pretty obvious that the person we were meant to point, laugh at and deride in the original post was Bob Diamond himself, not his daughter.

I mean even the Telegraph has been bundling this up in that kind of "well this is just not cricket" Charles Moore-speak that distracts from the fact they've been cheerleading the kind of light touch regulation that caused this for a generation.

Speaking of which has there been a foaming-at-the-mouth Oborne column yet? I always look forward to those.

the actual issue of this thread is exactly displayed in the title and all posts preceding yours

it might be the one place on the internet where we can contemplate the beautiful image that is bobby d & daughter dancing to jay z (and kanye i guess) and nobody is obliged to say how much they hate bankers and how much they deplore crime and the criminal actions of criminals

lol is whether her father's leadership of a bank during a period of highly questionable activity was negligent or outright criminal really the actual issue? pretty cut and dried right?

tbf anything that might stand in the way of lex and kate posting at length about finance is to be discouraged

well, saturday's off to a roaring start

I mean at the root of this argument is the line of thinking that suggests that because Cameron and Osborne are destroying the social fabric of this country we can never laugh at a picture of them looking stupid, and frankly fuck that.

I'm slightly surprised that anyone would think that the CEO of Barclays doing the Jay-Z hand signal in an executive box and cavorting with John Terry in the Chelsea dressing room immediately after an FA Cup win doesn't tell you something about the current culture of banking,

bankers cavorting with the sporting stars they sponsor = totally unsurprising to all but the most cloistered of souls, one would imagine

jay z exec box antics = would exactly fit in with younger bank employee culture, so basically nell diamond (deutsche bank analyst)....and she invited her dad along i guess

For a second I read that and thought that John Terry was in there with the Diamonds at the Jay-Z gig and was awestruck at the possibilities that threw up.

Also y'know the Libor scandal and the current culture of banking is something that virtually everyone on ILX agrees is completely venal and wrong and there's barely anything to debate unless one of the mental US republicans decides to pop up and have a bit of a fight.

there was a hilarious substitution piece that formerly trendy 'diasporic breakbeats' dj dj/rupture wrote during the paris riots, editing a WSJ article about the influence of rap music on young parisian crims and applying it to junior broker/mba culture

i searched for it but i couldn't find....you had to be there i suppose, but the affinity between the two cultures is self-evident

I'm sorry, can someone point me to the thread on ILX where this was all discussed? Because there was p much nothing on the rolling UK politics thread(s). And a couple of posts on the Wall St/Finance thread. I was expecting a lot more ... I dunno, discussion about it. More outrage from the usual Outraged Of ILX, but also people with a better eyed viewpoint saying something. And instead there's silence, and then this weird thread where people are just posting those "we condemn this terrible young woman we are about to print giant photos of" Daily Mail/Torygraph photos of the daughter.

It's just weird.

I guess I feel hobbled because I have recently gone back to working tangentially closer to that world - yet can't talk about it. (Not because, god forbid, I'd piss off a troll who doesn't think Lex or I should be allowed to talk about, apparently, anything, on the internet - but because I learned the hard way at my last job not to talk about work on the internet.) And wanted to actually read people's opinions on the scandal. Not on the dude's daughter.

I'd like to manipulate HER interbank overnight rate, if you catch my drift.

the current culture of banking is something that virtually everyone on ILX agrees is completely venal and wrong and there's barely anything to debate unless one of the mental US republicans decides to pop up and have a bit of a fight.

― Matt DC, Saturday, July 7, 2012 4:55 PM (6 minutes ago)

well exactly, but we can always introduce some daily mail style 'levity is inappropriate! bad people are being bad!' and some daily mail style misogyny against VILE YOUNG WOMEN who get upset about their daddy being fired and scapegoated by the people who facilitated his shitty management culture

UK politics thread has been really quiet of late no matter what's been going on. I think everyone's just too beaten down and despairing to even impotently rage on an ILX thread.

It's that same thread that went through the whole Common People discussion - that of people who cannot actually reach to vent their anger on the father as the real source of hatred, instead project it into this strange sexual anger against the daughter. It reminded me a lot of that.

there is pretty much no diversity of opinion on uk politics, and just wall to wall hatred and dysphoria towards the current regime gets tired after a while

the american politics thread has more diversity, partly because it maps roughly to the the left wing of the democratic party (and the morbsian fringe), so there is a greater disparity in ideas and an actual engagement with liberal policymakers and their success or lack of it

they mad cuz she hot

And it's not "levity is inappropriate" so much as it's "being gross and Daily Maily about disapprovable but attractive young women is not actually levity."

kate plz stop using diversionary tactics, persecution song and dance. this thread is about corruption in the world of british finance. plz post about that, pretty sure it's the actual issue, not what someone once said on a britpop thread.

maily /= actual word

grossness otoh frequently = levity

neither have much to do w/ british banking regulations

be part of the solution kate

money where yr mouth is, etc

1) Don't use that name, asshole. 2) What have I been doing on this thread, except asking people to talk about the issue, instead of speculation/grossness about the guy's daughter?

people who cannot actually reach to vent their anger on the father as the real source of hatred, instead project it into this strange sexual anger against the daughter. It reminded me a lot of that.

― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Saturday, July 7, 2012 5:17 PM (3 minutes ago)

the political usefulness of hatred is probably overstated (rage being diffuse, easily misdirected and often misled), but yes if you must get angry then direct it towards bobby diamond and his ilk rather than bizarre psychosexual resentments towards a 'vile little girl'

And if you really must know, I have put my money and my career exactly where my mouth is, with regards to trying to find solutions to this issue, in the past 2 months. So STFU, "balls"

did sidetracking any discussion of british banking w/ demands that ppl not discuss a particular bank analyst cuz it's speculative or gross really strike you as an effective way of fostering discussion of british banking kate? bring something to the table. be part of the solution.

you've come up with an alternative to LIBOR? xp

second pic looks like she's in hal hartley flick

"in a hal hartley flick"

Not LIBOR specifically, but another sector of the British banking industry that has done some scandal-rocking in the past few years. No, I won't go into details.

And for the love of god stop throwing that name around. Are you deliberately trying to be a jerk?

oligarch culture is a good example of pure will-to-power aesthetics, prettified thuggery

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2we7ebCxm1qz537jo1_500.jpg

oligarch/nets owner prokhorov, bloomberg, the man from barclays

this is a much, much better look for jay-z than pretending to like coldplay and gwyneth paltrow circa 2007

She graduated from Princeton last summer where her English thesis was on 'the Cultural Myth of Female Hair in the Victorian Imagination'.

1984, prob needs updating

See, here was me thinking it was just "60 yo Finance type Dude dancing to the kids' hip music" when that's not even the half of it. It's like the melding of two aesthetics in a joint business venture that on the face of it, melts the mind, but when you interrogate it a bit more deeply, makes perfect sense. Or maybe that should be the other way around.

http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0212/13/Jay-Z%E2%80%93inspired_suite.jpghttp://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0212/13/Jay-Z%E2%80%93inspired_suite.jpg

http://www.luxurylaunches.com/celebrities/jayz_designs_luxurious_suites_at_barclays_center_arena_for_wealthy_fans.php

jay looks like the most bored man on earth

the superwealthy enjoy a boredom more pure and unsullied than you can imagine

The Great Jay-Z

Jay-Z believed in the Brooklyn Nets, the orgastic championship that year by year recedes before them. It eluded them then, but that's no matter -- tomorrow they will run faster, stretch out their arms farther....And one fine evening --

So they play on, jump shots against the defense, borne back ceaselessly into the restricted zone.

lol

What have I been doing on this thread, except asking people to talk about the issue, instead of speculation/grossness about the guy's daughter?

Well you did at least twice refer to a 23-year-old woman as a "little girl" which is kinda NAGL for a feminist but anyway.

Trust me, I refer to 23 y.o. male graduates on the sales desk as vile little boys, too. Especially when they talk about their dicks.

Pretty gross

I'm glad we're all on the same page now

also max otm re Neil diamond

just to be clear i dont think jay-z was pretending to like coldplay

also he is old as fuck now, jay-z is closer in age to bob diamond than an actual teen

also they are making hand vaginas

― contenderizer, Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

itt people who have no idea what 'throwing the diamond up' is snickering at other people for dancing to rap music

anyway that's one fit bird, however she got all over the newsy wewsies

we managed some pretty pointless gender discussion too!

ilx

Number of people who were posting on this thread to start with: 6

Number of people who popped in to voice their disgust that issues of gender had even been raised in the discussion of coverage of this subject, despite having no previous interest in it: dozens

Yes. Gender discussion is pointless! And unnecessary! Gender in no way influences the direction of public discourse on ILX! Or the British press! Or anywhere else! You're completely right.

do brit financiers pronounce it, 'Jay-Zed'?

Number of people who were posting on this thread to start with: 6

Number of people who popped in to voice their disgust that issues of gender had even been raised in the discussion of coverage of this subject, despite having no previous interest in it: dozens

Yes. Gender discussion is pointless! And unnecessary! Gender in no way influences the direction of public discourse on ILX! Or the British press! Or anywhere else! You're completely right.

― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, July 8, 2012 2:24 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think it's pointless and i usually agree with your posts, you were just kind of on autopilot for a while there before you knew what the thread was about

In my experience, it is the fathers in the 50-60 range who are most desperate to show that they are still cool and down with modern music by going to gigs like that.

― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Saturday, 7 July 2012 17:09 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I resemble this remark!

also they are making hand vaginas

― contenderizer, Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Amber was telling me the other week that this hand sign is "something to do with the Illuminatus trilogy"

apparently, everyone's 'into it' at her school.

So I told her, 23.

criticize an individual = strengthen system, its just a bad apple everyone don't worry

love how the rich and powerful turn on their own when necessary

The Nell Diamond defence is partly that and partly of the "but what about all the children who didn't drown?" variety.

what is the evidence that she is spoiled? she seems like a pretty nice woman.

G-Dawg splashes tax cuts like P Diddy with champagne but banks miss out on the bling

By Jonathan Guthrie

George Osborne could reinvent himself as a rapper if politics loses its appeal. Easily as posh as hip-hop DJ Tim Westwood, he sprinkled his Budget – sorry “Autumn Statement” – with shout-outs to his posse (the MPs for Hereford, Burnley and Thurrock). And he laid claim to business as the home turf of the Tories with all the knuckle-headed bombast of 50 Cent.
Giving back to his homies, the chancellor splashed out with tax cuts like P Diddy dispensing Dom Pérignon to a thirsty entourage. The blingiest giveaway was cutting corporation tax by 1 percentage point to 21 per cent in 2014. That makes the UK tax system more competitive than those of rival economies.

It is just a pity that rival economies remain more competitive than the UK, whose continuing stagnation was confirmed by lowered growth forecasts from the Office for Budget Responsibility.

Corporation tax is paid out of profits, after all. A lower rate is irrelevant if you are losing money. That may not bother Starbucks. But it is a problem for domestic companies that lack the frothy coffee chain’s rococo transfer pricing set-up.

Mr Osborne also talked up the soljaz on the street, if the small businesses who are the backbone of our nation may be described thus. First, the ceiling for 100 per cent capital allowances on machinery purchases will rise tenfold to £250,000. That will help Midlands manufacturers, if any remain.

Second, rate relief will be extended for another year, bringing joy to independent retailers clinging on in our blighted high streets. Third, in response to tenacious lobbying, shares quoted on Aim may become eligible for inclusion in ISAs. Small companies investors would be able to lose their money more tax-efficiently than ever before.

Having laid claim to the business ‘hood, G-Dawg, as one is tempted to call him, was free to pursue his beef with its most disrespected inhabitants: the banks. He fractionally raised the percentage levy on balance sheets first imposed in 2011. This was no drive-by tax hike. The move was expected and will keep the contribution from banks, whose balance sheets are shrinking like their profits, at the target level of £2.5bn.

With procyclical regulation rampant, balance sheets will continue to shrink. So we can expect the bank levy to go on rising in percentage terms. Curious that the UK, whose only real comparative advantage is in financial services, should hamper the sector more than the US and eurozone competitors.

Perhaps Mr Osborne, motivated by the British sense of fair play, has some form of golfing handicap in mind.

Restricting tax-free pension contributions to £40,000 a year was another put-down to the City, on whose trading floors and company boards the bulk of high earners lurk. Small entrepreneurs aiming to shelter proceeds from a business sale will be among those collaterally damaged. For these toilers, life is currently a case of Stay Middling And Retire Disappointed rather than Get Rich Or Die Tryin’.

A £77m clampdown on tax avoidance will meanwhile have zero affect on such prominent tax minimalists as Starbucks, Amazon and Google. A joint initiative with the French and Germans to curb abuses of transfer pricing rules is more likely to bear fruit. The chancellor is right to pursue this. But value-shifting UK multinationals as-yet unmolested by Margaret Hodge, MP and tax vigilante, would be inconvenienced alongside American cousins.

As an art form, rap is loud, gestural but lacking in substance. That was the problem with Mr Osborne’s Autumn Statement too.
The economy is flatlining, public debt remains untamed and the chancellor has no stimulatory plan beyond an aspiration for pension funds to finance infrastructure projects.

The alignment of the Conservatives to business – unclear in the first days of the coalition – is no longer in doubt. But the faith of business in the Conservatives is wearing thin. To critics who have always doubted Mr Osborne could become an economic heavyweight, he still resembles Boy George more than 50 Cent.

That's from the FT by the way.

show me the hot daughters of gtfo

show me the hot daughters or gtfo

ach fuckin phone

To critics who have always doubted Mr Osborne could become an economic heavyweight, he still resembles Boy George more than 50 Cent

Not sure this metaphor works...

http://cestquiquiestgros.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bestweekever.tv_.jpg
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/169546/FIFTY-CENT-WEIGHT-LOSS.jpg

no he definitely resembles Boy George more

is Jonathan Guthrie a work experience kid or what?

As an art form, rap is loud, gestural but lacking in substance. That was the problem with Mr Osborne’s Autumn Statement too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5nD2nPh6g

brings a tear to ur eye

#ThankYouBarclays

http://howtomakedo.net/images/kids/teaparty.jpg

She graduated from Princeton last summer where her English thesis was on 'the Cultural Myth of Female Hair in the Victorian Imagination'.

― buzza, Saturday, July 7, 2012 10:01 AM (1 year ago)

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#HMF

here's american hero karl rove dancing to rap music at a white house correspondents dinner years back
http://youtu.be/Ln5RD9BhcCo

oh and he's dancing to a rap that's about himself

wasn't matt dc getting married this afternoon

would like to think the above was functionally the exorcising of some nerves

definitely hope karl rove dies

but who is the guy stage left who is ten thousand times worse

& where is my cut-out-&-keep jpg of his rap pose

that's (former?) nbc reporter/host david gregory

I feel like this is the best thread for this

http://hongkong.coconuts.co/2014/10/01/cy-leungs-daughter-hong-kong-taxpayers-fund-my-beautiful-shoes-and-dresses

http://i.imgur.com/Lvuk42y.jpg