poll of British "epic carouser" and "working class" actors

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inspired by this bit from a piece on peter o'toole's retirement. only including the actors mentioned:

O'Toole received Oscar nominations for 1964's "Becket," 1968's "The Lion in Winter," 1969's "Goodbye, Mr. Chips," 1972's "The Ruling Class," 1980's "The Stunt Man" and 1982's "My Favorite Year."
In the latter film, O'Toole played a dissolute actor preoccupied with drink and debauchery, seemingly a tailor-made role for a star known in his early years for epic carousing with such fellow partiers as Richard Burton, Richard Harris and Peter Finch.

O'Toole went into acting after serving in the Royal Navy, studying at London's Royal Academy of Dramatic Art. His early stage successes included the lead in "Hamlet" and Shylock in "The Merchant of Venice."

He was among a wily new breed of young British stage actors who soon would rise to Hollywood stardom.

"There was a group of us working-class actors, Peter O'Toole, Albert Finney, everybody, and we changed the way things were," Michael Caine said last weekend in an interview for his latest film, "The Dark Knight Rises."

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Peter O'Toole 7
Richard Burton 7
Albert Finney 7
Michael Caine 6
Richard Harris 3
Peter Finch 0


omar little, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

Burton is easily the best here because he's one of the best ever. no one in this company can touch him as great as (some of them) are.

although O'Toole is someone i've never liked to watch.

jed_, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

agreed on all points jed

deems irreverent (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

"British"

I know what you mean though

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

alllooksame

omar little, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

Voting Caine because, even though he's more limited than some of the others, he's been great in more films that I've actually seen (Burton and O'Toole knowledge especially thin)

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:26 (thirteen years ago)

Where, oh where, is Tom Baker?

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:16 (thirteen years ago)

Albert Finney, I think.

The sheer volume of dogshit Michael Caine work-for-hire rules him out for me.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

No one repping for the elephant in the room?

http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w780/xZ2dPjklFgBKnnWtLpVs5CC5pnA.jpg

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:32 (thirteen years ago)

Reed wasn't working class.

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

Peter O'Toole could read the phone book interspersed with random swearing and I'd watch it, open-mouthed and quite possibly drooling. This thread is missing its Anthony Hopkins (from the same town as Burton) and its Tom Courtenay (in the same drama school class as Albert Finney and Peter O'Toole and a load of famous character actors).

Michael Caine, who really ought to know better, came out with this shit in 2009:

"The government has taken tax up to 50%, and if it goes to 51% I will be back in America," he said this week in an attack on Alistair Darling's tax rise for the highest earners. "We've got 3.5 million layabouts on benefits, and I'm 76, getting up at 6am to go to work to keep them. Let's get everybody back to work so we can save a couple of billion and cut tax, not keep sticking it up."

Twat.

higgs' besom (suzy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:58 (thirteen years ago)

SUZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:58 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, Richard Harris for me. Mainly for siring Jared.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 08:00 (thirteen years ago)

i think maybe Finney is the best actor of these guys, Burton's a great showboater but he's got 2 notes, tops

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

where is michael caine's great personal mate terence stamp?

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

Suzy xp: ah yes, those "layabouts who lay about." My former next-door neighbour, was Sir Mike, and fervently did he complain about part of the Chelsea Harbour complex being given over to "social housing."

I still imagine him marching angrily into Phonica one Thursday morning: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU AVEN'T GOT FAR SIDE VIRTUAL? GET YOUR LAYABOUT ARSE IN THE BLADDY STOCKROOM AND GET ME A COPY NAAAHHH!"

(split second pause)

"He's a very nice young bloke, is James Ferraro."

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

No one repping for the elephant in the room?

Or, the wierhere in the room?

Mark G, Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, is Richard Harris even British? I'm not sure.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, there are so many missing in this list.

Mark G, Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)

Peter Finch was Australian, O'Toole and Harris Irish, Burton Welsh.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

he's from limerick, that's even more irish than dublin

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

Well, we really need "British" in quotation marks, too, then. (Wales was still in Britain, last time I checked, though.)

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

Michael Caine also eligible for the Irish football team, iirc.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

to be fair everybody who's ever done a stag weekend in Dublin is eligible

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

What are the real qualifications? (And do I really want to know?)

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, that's true about Wales still being part of Britain. Burton was never a Son of Glwyndwr type.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

to be fair everybody who's ever done a stag weekend in Dublin is eligible

these people are eligible for another poll.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Burton was never a Son of Glwyndwr type.

isn't he famous for his passionate speeches about mining?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, "when I make my money I'll come back here and it'll be jobs for the boys." Instead, he cleared off to Switzerland.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

Unless the Meibion Glyndŵr were planning to mine a new canal between England and Wales, leaving the Union would still not cause Wales to leave Britain. ;-)

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

Have always wondered how Harris felt abt working w/ Antonioni on 'Red Desert' - he seems v uneasy playing a far more passive, bourgeois character than normal, but that actually suits the mood/feel of the film.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsF/5944-6821.gif

^ always liked this guy although obviously he's nothing to do with Hollywood

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah two of these aren't British. Finney is the best actor there.

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

He was in The Wild Geese with Richard Harris and Richard Burton though xp

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

Stanley Baker. Ian Hendry. Both miles better than Michael Caine, of course.

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

caine not a carouser tbh, certainly not that i've ever heard by comparison to the guys listed

deems irreverent (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Poll is on actors mentioned in the original article. Obv. there's a ton more carousers and w/c actors.

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

The Spy Who Came in From the Cold and 1984 are my favourite films by any of them, so Burton on the basis of that--though Miller's Crossing is very close. Burton wallows around in self-disgust in those two movies more convincingly than anyone I've ever seen. And great in Virginia Woolf too, of course.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

Talking of 1984, I was thinking the other day that there has never been a John Hurt thread, and then I thought a John Hurt poll would be good but I couldn't cut it down to just 50 choices and Alien always wins things anyway so oh

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

"Who Do You Think You Are" would get my vote. His appearance on that is all time classic.

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

I've been up and down with Hurt, but he's so good in 1984.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

He's too much of a British Actoooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr for my liking

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

Talking of 1984, I was thinking the other day that there has never been a John Hurt thread, and then I thought a John Hurt poll would be good but I couldn't cut it down to just 50 choices and Alien always wins things anyway so oh

I almost certainly would vote "The Elephant Man" or "1984" for that.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)

Richard Harris gets plus points for making two albums of Jimmy Webb songs despite not being able to sing... and playing Olver Cromwell, which for an Irishman takes a lot of chutzpah

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Terence Stamp can be found most weekends pottering around a certain farmer's market, buying gluten-free bread. When he turns up, nearby stall-holders whisper, 'kneel before Zod!' He should totally be in the poll.

Peter O'Toole was offered a knighthood in 1987, but turned it down because POLITICS. He was also originally supposed to play a) the Joker in Tim Burton's Batman and b) TJ Newton in The Man Who Fell To Earth. His father was Irish, his mother was Scottish - and he claims not to know whether he was born in Ireland or England.

higgs' besom (suzy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

For years, whenever he was in London, Harris resided at the Savoy Hotel. According to the hotel archivist Susan Scott, as Harris was being taken from the hotel on a stretcher, shortly before his death, he warned the diners, "It was the food!"

mizzell, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

no idea whether to vote on carousing or acting

also just makes me think of SCTV's "The Man Who Would Be King of the Popes."

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

I took an elevator with O'Toole once. Charming drunk.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

A relative once worked for a guy who was one of Peter O'Toole's drinking buddies. Dude could cane it like a madman.

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

shortly before his death, he warned the diners, "It was the food!"

Particularly the cakes, which had been left out in the rain.

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

That must've been the world's most dapper/tailored elevator ride, MW.

Was walking with friend and his girlfriend near the British Museum a few years ago, and we strolled by a gaunt figure who could've passed for Karl Lagerfeld. A block down the road, my friend gave me the side-eye and said 'I can't believe we just walked past Peter O'Toole and YOU DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.'

higgs' besom (suzy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Nah, I was in LA the day he got his lifetime achievement award. It was too warm to be too dapper. It was funny 'cause the night before my gf and I were drinking champagne on the balcony of our room and she saw a limo pull up and a gentleman get out and she said, "Who's he? He's drunk!"

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

You know what keeps coming back to me, though? Finney's performance in Karaoke.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

My mother got me tickets to Pygmalion on Broadway for a 19th birthday present; Peter O'Toole was playing Higgins. When I went to pick up the tickets from the theatre, he was leaving rehearsals and stopped to chat XD XD XD

higgs' besom (suzy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

I saw that production too, but was not so lucky!

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

With all the amazing things Peter O'Toole has done in his career, I saw My Favorite Year so many times on HBO when I was young that that's nearly his ur-performance for me. That and The Stunt Man.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Caine's got the best track record of being good in good films, so him

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

Finney close second

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

"Is that a real minute, or an Eli minute?' - as script quotes go, that one from The Stunt Man comes in handy A LOT.

A story of Peter O'Toole's about approaching hookers with another teenager and, erm, soliciting was helpful the one time a creepy stranger cornered me to ask if I would like to see his cock. Before I RAN AWAY, I simply borrowed the reply given by the hooker to Peter O'Toole and his friend: 'put it on the mantelpiece, I'll smoke it later!'

higgs' besom (suzy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

omg the stunt man

a friend of mine was capital-o obsessed with that movie

du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Peter O'Bsessed

du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

Is Caine actually the source of the "good house paid for by bad film" quip?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, Jaws: The Revenge

Number None, Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

My cocaine

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

No reps for O'Toole in "The Ruling Class?" It's showboating of the highest order, but damn, is it entertaining. Has there been a similar poll for the Brit Pack?

Theodora Celery, Thursday, 12 July 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 9 August 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

damn, time for a carouse-off

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 August 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

no Oliver Reed? hmph

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 August 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

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I read the American follow-up on the right. It wasn't particularly wild or fast.

clemenza, Thursday, 9 August 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)

When in residence at the Savoy, Harris could be seen most afternoons in the Coal Hole, sitting on his own with a pint of Guinness at a table at the back, next to the fruit machine. In later years the recognition from Harry Potter fans seemed to get on his nerves.

bham, Thursday, 9 August 2012 08:29 (thirteen years ago)

Wondering if the Coal Hole's 'sister' pub is the nearby Bung Hole.

higgs' besom (suzy), Thursday, 9 August 2012 08:38 (thirteen years ago)


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